Do angels have wings ? Or they don't have ?

[grumix8]

The bible refers that malakim is the way how Judaism called angels, the word angel comes from the word "Angelos" greek meaning messenger truth be told they are powerful beings and the order how angels were portay by the catholic church are wrong. The catholic portays them as human and child-like they were never that figure. But in biblical times the bible says it prohibits the israelites from depicting things from heaven.





20:4 exodus


You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in the heavens above, on the earth below, or in the waters beneath.





This is case that angels could not be depicted and painted and most the images in the internet and the catholic paintings from the renassaince are wrong. Angels are being we cannot see with the naked eye, only the prophet Ezekiel says in A vision A sight of the Lord with his angels.


Ezekiel 10:1-22


That is closest what is described even though angels appear to him, How did this portrayal of angels in a good vs evil appears that angels will destroy each other


in the celestial war ?

Zoroastrianism​

Is the influence that Catholic, Judaism, and Modern-Day Christian fall for it, It teaches that good and evil exist in the plane of angels heirarchy and angels all have wings and all are special beings. such as its monotheism, messianism, belief in judgement after death, conception of heaven and hell, and free will may have influenced other religious and philosophical systems. Even though Judaism predates it even before the exile of babylon the kingdoms of Judah and Israel worshipped other Gods and accepted influence from other religions. Zoroastrianism influence it all and this concept of angels and demons arouse.

 

[grumix8]

What is the closest we know on how the angels really look like, how the lord is in his throne with them is


hebrews 12:29 for our "God is a consuming fire."


It is reference of what power he is made of and the angels around him are made of fire like his because he is so powerful other ranks of angels under Seraphim, Cherubins, and Ophafins ( Thrones ) can be near him.





G-d is not men or women in appearance but fire he can come down here as man but in heaven his body is fire !!!





The angels are made of his fire and can withstand his enormous power


. The question do angels have wings ? some do and some don't their is heirarchy that exist but for christians Seraphims are the high order the top but for hebrew (Judaism) chayot ha kadesh are the higher caste but here is an example.

 

[grumix8]

Maimonides


he puts heirarchy like this

Rank Angelic Class Notes 1 Chayot Ha Kadesh[21] See Ezekiel 1 and Ezekiel 10 2 Ophanim See Ezekiel 1 and Ezekiel 10 3 Erelim See Isaiah 33:7 4 Hashmallim See Ezekiel 1:4 5 Seraphim See Isaiah 6 6 Malakim Messengers, angels 7 Elohim "Godly beings" 8 Bene Elohim "Sons of Godly beings" 9 Cherubim See Hagigah 13b 10 Ishim "manlike beings", see Genesis 18:2 Daniel 10:5

 

[grumix8]

then the christian one 1: Seraphims 2:Cherubins 3:Thrones (Ophanims) 4.Dominations 5.Virtues 6.Powers 7.Principalities 8.Archangels 9.Angels are the order of christians. But because of the flood, the destruction of the temple of Solomon when babylon attacked, and other times history is destroyed in Israel by this calamities we do not know the way is organized and rabbi's say that great information was lost in this incidents of history we do not know how the order is ? Some scholars say Chayot Ha Kodesh are indeed Archangels so the order maybe switched. So where does it says angels have wings ? one part says it. When moses made the ark God instructed him to put wings on the cherubs ! 1 kings6:27 27And he placed the cherubim inside the innermost room of the temple. Since their wings were spread out, the wing of the first cherub touched one wall, while the wing of the second cherub touched the other wall, and in the middle of the room their wingtips touched. It shows the ark was made with cherubs and their wings. Where does it say they don't have wings ? The ophanims ( Thrones) they do not have wings Ezekiel 1:15-21 As I looked at the living creatures, I saw a wheel on the ground beside each creature with its four faces. This was the appearance and structure of the wheels: They sparkled like topaz, and all four looked alike. Each appeared to be made like a wheel intersecting a wheel. As they moved, they would go in any one of the four directions the creatures faced; the wheels did not change direction as the creatures went. Their rims were high and awesome, and all four rims were full of eyes all around. When the living creatures moved, the wheels beside them moved; and when the living creatures rose from the ground, the wheels also rose. Wherever the spirit would go, they would go, and the wheels would rise along with them, because the spirit of the living creatures was in the wheels. When the creatures moved, they also moved; when the creatures stood still, they also stood still; and when the creatures rose from the ground, the wheels rose along with them, because the spirit of the living creatures was in the wheels.
No where in this part do they have wings. There is error that people see angels like child-like babies that have wings and the Catholic church depicted them as cherubs such A way and the bible never said they look like that but powerful creatures with 4 wings of the Lord !!! People the eyes are fooled for what they see and people who saw angels cannot see the whole being for it is A being of fire. A fire more greater than suns but what does the bible say about Michael, Gabriel, Raphael, and Uriel aren't they archangels shouldn't they be Chayot Ha Kadesh the truth is Raphael and Uriel are not real they are not God's angel another error of history they were created by the catholic church. They do not appear in the tanak or bible no aprt. The bible only talks of 2 angels and they are Mikael and Gavriel they are the angels G-d sends to talk to his prophets. Raphael is made up just like the baby cherubs, also Uriel they are not part of the old testament they do not appear only in the apocryphals books. So Raphael and Uriel are not bible based but made up.

 

[for_his_glory]

Angels are essentially “ministering spirits,” (Hebrews 1:14) and do not have physical bodies like humans. Jesus declared that “a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have” (Luke 24:37-39).

The Bible classifies some angels as “elect” (1 Timothy 5:21) or “holy” (Matthew 25:31; Mark 8:38). All angels were created to be holy, enjoying the presence of God (Matthew 18:10) and the beauty of heaven (Mark 13:32).

Other angels oppose God under the leadership of Satan (Isaiah 14:12-20) whom even Satan is a created spirit of God that is why God could never destroy him because a spirit can not die. (Matthew 25:41; 2 Peter 2:4; Jude 1: 6; Ephesians 6:12). We often call these types of angels demons for which an everlasting fire is prepared by God for these angels.

Angels have no gender (Matthew 22:30) and are innumerable (Hebrews 12:22). They are incarnate in human form at times (Genesis 18:2-8) for the purpose of ministry. Angels also express emotions (Luke 15:10), are wise (2 Samuel 14:20) and powerful (Psalms 103:20).

The unnamed angels who appear most often in Scripture carry out a variety of tasks—all designed to serve God…

Worship and praise - This is the main activity portrayed in heaven (Isaiah 6:1-3; Revelation 4-5).

Revealing - They serve as messengers to communicate God's will to men. They helped reveal the law to Moses (Acts 7:52-53), and served as the carriers of much of the material in Daniel, and Revelation.

Guiding - Angels gave instructions to Joseph about the birth of Jesus (Matthew 1-2), to the women at the tomb, to Philip (Acts 8:26), and to Cornelius (Acts 10:1-8).

Providing - God has used angels to provide physical needs such as food for Hagar (Genesis 21:17-20), Elijah (1 Kings 19:6), and Christ after His temptation (Matthew 4:11).

Protecting - Keeping God's people out of physical danger, as in the cases of Daniel and the lions, and his three friends in the fiery furnace (Daniel 3 and 6).

Delivering - Getting God's people out of danger once they're in it. Angels released the apostles from prison in Acts 5, and repeated the process for Peter in Acts 12.

Strengthening and encouraging - Angels strengthened Jesus after His temptation (Matt 4:11), encouraged the apostles to keep preaching after releasing them from prison (Acts 5:19-20), and told Paul that everyone on his ship would survive the impending shipwreck (Acts 27:23-25).

Answering prayer - God often uses angels as His means of answering the prayers of His people (Daniel 9:20-24; 10:10-12; Acts 12:1-17).

Caring for believers at the moment of death - In the story of Lazarus and the rich man, we read that angels carried the spirit of Lazarus to “Abraham's bosom” when he died (Luke 16:22).

You never know when and where and angel of God will show up and as Hebrews 13:2 says be careful for you never know when you are entertaining angels unaware.

 

[for_his_glory]

There are only two types of angels that have wings mentioned in scripture, cherubim and seraphim. These are two types of angels, possibly being the two highest order of angels and the only ones mentioned in scripture as having wings.

Cherubim - Exodus 25:20; Ezekiel 10:5

Seraphim - Isaiah 6:1-3

The book of Enoch is where we get the name of seven angels, Michael, Raphael, Gabriel, Uriel, Saraqael, Raguel and Remiel, which is not found in the Bible, except for Michael and Gabriel.

Zoroastrianism is a Persian false religion founded in the 6th century BC by the mystical prophet Zoroaster, promulgated in the Avesta, and characterized by worship of a supreme god Ahura Mazda who requires good deeds for help in his cosmic struggle against the evil spirit Ahriman. They teach various ways to salvation in good deeds and rituals, which is against Christ being the only way to salvation.

Anyway, anyone can look this up.

 

[GodsGrace]

There are only two types of angels that have wings mentioned in scripture, cherubim and seraphim. These are two types of angels, possibly being the two highest order of angels and the only ones mentioned in scripture as having wings.

Cherubim - Exodus 25:20; Ezekiel 10:5

Seraphim - Isaiah 6:1-3

The book of Enoch is where we get the name of seven angels, Michael, Raphael, Gabriel, Uriel, Saraqael, Raguel and Remiel, which is not found in the Bible, except for Michael and Gabriel.

Zoroastrianism is a Persian false religion founded in the 6th century BC by the mystical prophet Zoroaster, promulgated in the Avesta, and characterized by worship of a supreme god Ahura Mazda who requires good deeds for help in his cosmic struggle against the evil spirit Ahriman. They teach various ways to salvation in good deeds and rituals, which is against Christ being the only way to salvation.

Anyway, anyone can look this up.

You supply a lot of information.

 

[grumix8]

Study things A lot before I make A series simply I know secrets of the bible other do not. I'm humble that I go slow. I don't make money out the series.

 

[hawkman]

then the christian one 1: Seraphims 2:Cherubins 3:Thrones (Ophanims) 4.Dominations 5.Virtues 6.Powers 7.Principalities 8.Archangels 9.Angels are the order of christians. But because of the flood, the destruction of the temple of Solomon when babylon attacked, and other times history is destroyed in Israel by this calamities we do not know the way is organized and rabbi's say that great information was lost in this incidents of history we do not know how the order is ? Some scholars say Chayot Ha Kodesh are indeed Archangels so the order maybe switched. So where does it says angels have wings ? one part says it. When moses made the ark God instructed him to put wings on the cherubs ! 1 kings6:27 27And he placed the cherubim inside the innermost room of the temple. Since their wings were spread out, the wing of the first cherub touched one wall, while the wing of the second cherub touched the other wall, and in the middle of the room their wingtips touched. It shows the ark was made with cherubs and their wings. Where does it say they don't have wings ? The ophanims ( Thrones) they do not have wings Ezekiel 1:15-21 As I looked at the living creatures, I saw a wheel on the ground beside each creature with its four faces. This was the appearance and structure of the wheels: They sparkled like topaz, and all four looked alike. Each appeared to be made like a wheel intersecting a wheel. As they moved, they would go in any one of the four directions the creatures faced; the wheels did not change direction as the creatures went. Their rims were high and awesome, and all four rims were full of eyes all around. When the living creatures moved, the wheels beside them moved; and when the living creatures rose from the ground, the wheels also rose. Wherever the spirit would go, they would go, and the wheels would rise along with them, because the spirit of the living creatures was in the wheels. When the creatures moved, they also moved; when the creatures stood still, they also stood still; and when the creatures rose from the ground, the wheels rose along with them, because the spirit of the living creatures was in the wheels.
No where in this part do they have wings. There is error that people see angels like child-like babies that have wings and the Catholic church depicted them as cherubs such A way and the bible never said they look like that but powerful creatures with 4 wings of the Lord !!! People the eyes are fooled for what they see and people who saw angels cannot see the whole being for it is A being of fire. A fire more greater than suns but what does the bible say about Michael, Gabriel, Raphael, and Uriel aren't they archangels shouldn't they be Chayot Ha Kadesh the truth is Raphael and Uriel are not real they are not God's angel another error of history they were created by the catholic church. They do not appear in the tanak or bible no aprt. The bible only talks of 2 angels and they are Mikael and Gavriel they are the angels G-d sends to talk to his prophets. Raphael is made up just like the baby cherubs, also Uriel they are not part of the old testament they do not appear only in the apocryphals books. So Raphael and Uriel are not bible based but made up.

Don't forget there are two more angels , fallen angels that is, called by name in the KJV . Satan and Abaddon .
Revelation 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Revelation 9:11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.

I wonder if the only time angels don wings is when they are in heaven ? Possible I guess .

 

[hawkman]

Angels are essentially “ministering spirits,” (Hebrews 1:14) and do not have physical bodies like humans. Jesus declared that “a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have” (Luke 24:37-39).

The Bible classifies some angels as “elect” (1 Timothy 5:21) or “holy” (Matthew 25:31; Mark 8:38). All angels were created to be holy, enjoying the presence of God (Matthew 18:10) and the beauty of heaven (Mark 13:32).

Other angels oppose God under the leadership of Satan (Isaiah 14:12-20) whom even Satan is a created spirit of God that is why God could never destroy him because a spirit can not die. (Matthew 25:41; 2 Peter 2:4; Jude 1: 6; Ephesians 6:12). We often call these types of angels demons for which an everlasting fire is prepared by God for these angels.

Angels have no gender (Matthew 22:30) and are innumerable (Hebrews 12:22). They are incarnate in human form at times (Genesis 18:2-8) for the purpose of ministry. Angels also express emotions (Luke 15:10), are wise (2 Samuel 14:20) and powerful (Psalms 103:20).

The unnamed angels who appear most often in Scripture carry out a variety of tasks—all designed to serve God…

Worship and praise - This is the main activity portrayed in heaven (Isaiah 6:1-3; Revelation 4-5).

Revealing - They serve as messengers to communicate God's will to men. They helped reveal the law to Moses (Acts 7:52-53), and served as the carriers of much of the material in Daniel, and Revelation.

Guiding - Angels gave instructions to Joseph about the birth of Jesus (Matthew 1-2), to the women at the tomb, to Philip (Acts 8:26), and to Cornelius (Acts 10:1-8).

Providing - God has used angels to provide physical needs such as food for Hagar (Genesis 21:17-20), Elijah (1 Kings 19:6), and Christ after His temptation (Matthew 4:11).

Protecting - Keeping God's people out of physical danger, as in the cases of Daniel and the lions, and his three friends in the fiery furnace (Daniel 3 and 6).

Delivering - Getting God's people out of danger once they're in it. Angels released the apostles from prison in Acts 5, and repeated the process for Peter in Acts 12.

Strengthening and encouraging - Angels strengthened Jesus after His temptation (Matt 4:11), encouraged the apostles to keep preaching after releasing them from prison (Acts 5:19-20), and told Paul that everyone on his ship would survive the impending shipwreck (Acts 27:23-25).

Answering prayer - God often uses angels as His means of answering the prayers of His people (Daniel 9:20-24; 10:10-12; Acts 12:1-17).

Caring for believers at the moment of death - In the story of Lazarus and the rich man, we read that angels carried the spirit of Lazarus to “Abraham's bosom” when he died (Luke 16:22).

You never know when and where and angel of God will show up and as Hebrews 13:2 says be careful for you never know when you are entertaining angels unaware.

A lot of good info ! But here is some thoughts on this .

Angels have no gender (Matthew 22:30)

Maybe they don't have a gender as we understand it , but they must sometimes take on the appearance of a male by what is said in the Bible. Notice this verse said "his sword" .

Numbers 22:31 Then the LORD opened the eyes of Balaam, and he saw the angel of the LORD standing in the way, and his sword drawn in his hand: and he bowed down his head, and fell flat on his face.

" A man of God "

Judges 13:3 And the angel of the LORD appeared unto the woman, and said unto her, Behold now, thou art barren, and bearest not: but thou shalt conceive, and bear a son.

Judges 13:6 Then the woman came and told her husband, saying, A man of God came unto me, and his countenance was like the countenance of an angel of God, very terrible: but I asked him not whence he was, neither told he me his name:

 

[grumix8]

Yes the fallen angels are named but do not like talking about them. Always best to avoid them.

 

[for_his_glory]

but they must sometimes take on the appearance of a male by what is said in the Bible

I did mention that in the descriptions I gave - They are incarnate in human form at times (Genesis 18:2-8) for the purpose of ministry. The other scriptures you gave also confirm this as only God can transform His angels into human form.

 

[for_his_glory]

You supply a lot of information.

You know me, I always do, LOL.

 

[for_his_glory]

Study things A lot before I make A series simply I know secrets of the bible other do not. I'm humble that I go slow. I don't make money out the series.

There are no secrets in the Bible as the Holy Spirit reveals all truths to those who truly seek truth. Scriptures are only mysteries to those who do not seek.