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Do you believe animals have consciousness?

Do you believe animals have consciousness?

  • 1. Yes, animals have consciousness and a special purpose....

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Soma-Sight

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Have you ever wondered what your cat or dog experiences as you watch them twitch, wince and wine while sleeping? There can't be any doubt that they're dreaming. Dog's, cats, and even horses experience memories, emotions and feelings just like we do. I often noticed my timber-wolf-coyote-cross, Fable carrying on, yelping while her paws moved as though she was running from something. I hope to write a book someday about Fable and tell how she taught me about the wonders of Nature
I had to admit to myself after several years of experience training with working dogs that some showed profound intelligence beyond what I then thought they were capable. I remember hearing words from the ignorant, like "just a dumb animal" and comments that reduced all animal life to nothing more than animated matter, and it just couldn't be further from the truth for All Life Has Consciousness.

I read a fine book about a man named Monty Roberts who teaches how he heals horses of psychological trauma, and how he is able to turn even the most troubled horses around. Robert Redford admirably portrayed a "Horse-Whisperer" in his movie by that same name. My friend Walter is a horse whisperer too and I marvel at the stories he tells about "smart" horses. In this issue we're including more testimony from Jacque Chapman as she continues to amaze us with successful healing stories using Miracle ll products on her horses and pets.

There's no doubt in my mind that Clayton Tedeton's Miracle ll products benefit all living creatures. It is so very evident that toxicity and parasites cause many forms of abnormal behaviour in both human and animal life. Miracle ll is being used by thousands to heal both families and livestock. Order some today, you'll never regret it and your four legged friends won't either... and forward this issue to all your friends with pets and animals and they'll thank you for years to come too.

http://www.life-enthusiast.com/news/news_030304.htm
 
I don't think either option works. They most certainly aren't figment of our minds, but I don't think animals can really distinguish between right and wrong as a conscious human would do.
 
animals are dang smart. THey learn, they can imitate, they can build and create things, far past just "instinct"

Don't believe me? watch the discovery channel.

If a bird, can somehow learn to set nuts in the road, where cars drive, and then ONLY retrieve it when the crosswalk light becomes the "walk" guy, and then leave when the "dont walk guy" re appears, then they have to be dang dang smart.
 
"Don't believe me? watch the discovery channel. "

LOL

I grew up on a farm and many of the cows were not to smart.

One was to smart for it's own good. The thing could climb fences!!!

My dad sold her off before she broke her legs!!!!

Now cats and dogs are genious. We feed them we walk them and rarely do we put them to work.
 
i agree not all animals are smart..

but are all ppl smart?
 
My dogs distinguish certain words and actions. I believe they understand a lot. But they cannot talk to tell us how much.
 
My dogs do the same thing Soma. They will yelp, bark and "run" in their sleeping. My greyhound does it the most. His front paws and back paws will be going crazy sometimes like he's running and his eyes will be half opened and twitching. When I call his name a few times, he eventually wakes up. I believe that they dream.

And I believe that some animals are VERY smart and beneficial to us. Look at guide dogs. They give the blind sight. Police and others have dogs for protection. And of course, there are numerous stories of dogs saving people from fires, drowning, etc.
 
Not conscious as humans, and I am not sure how self-aware animals are either, but somewhat, yes.
Animals apparently do not understand or have a sense of morality, and do not seem to have abstract thought or thoughts of metaphysical or spiritual concepts-Beauty, truth, soul, God, etc.
 
animals don't have a sense of morality, so then why do they go about saving humans from fires, etc?
 
Brutus/HisCatalyst said:
... but I don't think animals can really distinguish between right and wrong as a conscious human would do.
I think that the issue of right and wrong are not really applicable to wild animals. If an animal kills it normally is doing so for specific reasons.
1, Food
2, Self defense
3, Defending its territory
4, Mating rituals

Except for the first one, any deaths that result are usually accidents. I doubt that any non trained animal can really make a conscious choice to kill when other options are open.
 
well, look at the morallity this way.


a hunter goes into the woods, and stumbles upon a bears den, and shoots the mother, cuz she is freakign otu tryin to attack him..
the mans a hero right? saved himself from the bear...



now, the man is at home, and some bear comes jumping into his house, and the man tries to protect his kids, gets his gun, and shots the bear.


Both the man and hte bear were trying to protect their offspring, but we as humans, only think that human children are worth saving.
 
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