Do you believe the earth is flat?

[jasonc]

Ah yes, the evil of inflation.

Divers weights, and divers measures, both of them are alike abomination to the LORD. Proverbs 20:10 KJV

So a polar radius versus a meridian that spans at least 10% of the earth's quadrant. Using Lorentz Coordinate Transformations to calculate relativistic flattening of terra's oblong spheroidal shape for observers at un-accelerated space time continuum coordinates.

Then one must consider attenuation of the earth's magnetic field...

uhm, and the point of that is what? the gm angle for a map is different for each reason. I have seen that as large as 13 degrees and small as nearly 0. and those were on maps old as 50 years. yet I found simple markers no bigger then a foot in width(sign) on a picket fence via walking to from 5 to 6 kilometers away.

the gold standard is another topic. going to gold doesn't guarantee one will have money.

the compasses in America point to either new York's long island or another location. true north isn't even on the planet that is Polaris. ships navigate by that and pilots as well. compasses are used by whom?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_declination
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/True_north
so again for most of us that makes no difference. air craft have means of accounting for that. the earth isn't constant and I think god made it that way with allowance for deviations. life and nature are that way. my average body temp is usually below 98.6, often its 98.3,97.8. that is normal, its an average statement.


Polaris to true north is close enough per that link.

 

[Michael74]

The earth's magnetic field protects us from bad stuff in outer space. Its only 90% as protective as it was 150 years ago.

Similarly, gold protected our ancestors from evil divers weights and measures.

It doesn't matter whether or not magnetic north is at true north, it only matters that the magnetic field protects us regardless of orientation.

 

[tim-from-pa]

ah yes a debate on whether system is more accurate. pointless. both work. aircraft, and ships in America use the metric system of grids with a scale of one to whatever scale in inches.all topos if im told that I have posted from the 40s.( I have posted a few) are in the scale of 1:40000 or 1:24,000. the current use by the army for maps is 1:50000, but the navy, airforce and other pilots use a scale of 1:100000 both work, missiles and bombs are accurate. so yes I would say that the accuracy of either side is workable. the metric system is easier to learn. the English system if one isn't used to is harder to learn but not as accurate. all distances in military maps are used in kilometers. all measurements for movement by navigation are in degrees but for bombs, missiles, and arty its mills. one degree is 60 mills. the space craft uses mills as well.

Jason, You are right, one measurement system is not more accurate over the other. It's just a standard, but the question is whose standard? I admit that dividing a yard into 3 pieces to get a foot, and a foot into 12 pieces to get an inch is not as nice as dividing a meter by 100 to get a centimeter, and by 10 again to get a millimeter (thus easier to learn). But..... if the sacred cubit was used (about 25"), that could be divided by 100 to get a centicubit (i.e. 1/4") and again by 10 to get a millicubit, somewhat smaller and more precise than a millimeter. It all depends how one divides it which is a convention, not accuracy.

 

[jasonc]

food for thought where did isreal learn to measure from? since they were slaves in the construction of pagan structures its not likely they didn't learn from the pagan Egyptians. God didn't damn then for using that method just used it. that is my point. its not an issue worth fussing. I can use both. I have to. visit Puerto rico and they don't teach the English system there as all roads are in kilometers and volume and weight as well is in metric. yet its is America! I have been there. they might know it in the tourist areas but not in the countryside.

 

[jasonc]

The earth's magnetic field protects us from bad stuff in outer space. Its only 90% as protective as it was 150 years ago.

Similarly, gold protected our ancestors from evil divers weights and measures.

It doesn't matter whether or not magnetic north is at true north, it only matters that the magnetic field protects us regardless of orientation.

the earths field fluctuates. it was stronger in the medieval period and was going through the cycle its has of weak and strong. it protects against cosmic rays and other things. I seriously doubt we have anything to do with that.

on gold, seriously? I live in florida. what was the second reason spain came to America? Gold then the fountain of youth but GOLD drove it all. yup you say greed is just in that. uhm yeah they had usery then an diver weights. isreal did that despite their gold coinage. a man will cheat either way. the method of cheating makes no difference.

 

[Michael74]

It is unlikely that Spain will discover any more continents, so a return to the gold standard would protect us from inflation the way it did our ancestors.

 

[gracenote]

This is correct, and if you notice, doing calculations show that our "Unscientific" English system is based on the sacred cubit, i.e. related to the radius of the earth. I see the metric system as Satan's counterfeit, also based on the earth, but along a meridian. Question arises, whose meridian should we use? The earth is an oblate sphere and the distances vary somewhat. But there is only one polar radius.

My calculations irrefutably proven that an acre is extremely close to 100 x 100 sacred cubits, making the tabernacle's court of 50 x 100 half an acre. The edge of a square acre is 1/100,000 the polar radius of the earth. Likewise, English volume measurement is related to the sacred cubit. This is one of many evidences of the relationship between Egypt (the pyramid), Israel, and Great Britain (and by extension the USA). One often hears me talk about the feasts of the Lord. That's biblical time. But what many do not realize is that there's also sacred, biblical measure and pagan measure. The English system is an earth-based measurement system better than the metric IMO.

This would have to be one of the more interesting discussions I've found to date online.
Your comment makes me think that the cubit would have to STILL apply.
oh my!
You've opened my eyes to a whole new line of thought.
Thanks!

 

[jasonc]

It is unlikely that Spain will discover any more continents, so a return to the gold standard would protect us from inflation the way it did our ancestors.

I guess somehow the worldwide depressions on the silver which lead to gold didn't happen. and well the guilded age which also was when the us went on the gold standard didn't also all afterwards have a depression?

http://americanhistory.about.com/od/greatdepression/tp/greatdepression.htm

yet it still happened. men will not stop fighting or lusting over gold, or business in government helping the rich robber barrons with that. wall street drives that. while on the silver standard, wall street pretty much was started, history is repeating again.

http://useconomy.about.com/od/monetarypolicy/p/gold_standard.htm

that is a more right leaning argument for and against the gold standard, which says that recessions can happen. we have gold, for now, but it can run out.

and it says we simply don't have the gold to do that. so that kills that.

 

[YosefHayim]

The UN uses the flat earth map on their flag.

 

[Michael74]

...the worldwide depressions....

The bank printed the Great Depression by printing a stock and housing bubble during the 1920s, that deleveraged during the 1930s. Argentina has been printing for a century, and bankers misallocated their economy from one of the richest in the world to what they have today.

Printing is just bankers using divers weights and measures to slowly steal pensions and IRAs from their elders. Printing eventually produces a banana republic economy via capital misallocation.

 

[jasonc]

The bank printed the Great Depression by printing a stock and housing bubble during the 1920s, that deleveraged during the 1930s. Argentina has been printing for a century, and bankers misallocated their economy from one of the richest in the world to what they have today.

Printing is just bankers using divers weights and measures to slowly steal pensions and IRAs from their elders. Printing eventually produces a banana republic economy via capital misallocation.

uhm, there is a part there bout the world refusing to be paid in gold. imagine if china said pay up in gold or we own your mines. given time frame in one year. what would America do? bankrupt or go to war.

there were depressions on the gold and the silver standards. history shows it.i don't live in a la land of if the government would just shrink the people would give. teach their kids. funny thing Is that the Lord commanded isreal's kings not to stock up on gold nor silver, and yet that is exactly what your saying for us to do.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilded_Age
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_history_of_the_United_States#Late_19th_century

The end of the Gilded Age coincided with the Panic of 1893, a deep depression that lasted until 1897. Wheat and cotton farmers in the West and South were especially hard hit, and moved toward radicalism. President Grover Cleveland was forced to ask the Wall Street bankers help keep the Treasury liquid. Agrarian spokesmen William Jennings Bryan called for an inflationary policy of using cheap silver To effectively replace expensive gold. Bryan lost in a major political realignment in favor of the conservative pro-gold Republicans in the election of 1896.[15

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panic_of_1907

IM NOT An economist but its not that simple. you can see with gold and a central bank what has happened. it isn't pretty. sorry, money rising and falling with the costs of food is better?

 

[Michael74]

...money rising and falling with the costs of food is better?

A food standard would be fine. Maintaining the purchasing power of the dollar so a dollar could buy the same loaf of bread in 100 years that a dollar can buy today. Its only divers weights and measures that are evil. Anything that maintains inflation at zero is just fine.