Do You Have a Fish on Your Car?

[Strangelove]

How is it safer? What risk? In what way is an outward symbol unsafe? Symbols have been used throughout Christian history to identify oneself as a believer and to move one's heart to seek God, to think and meditate upon. Seeing a cross brings to remembrance the sacrifice of Christ and reminds one what their focus should be on, what their thoughts should be on, etc.

If I took away every single physical symbol from you're home would it have any effect on you're remembrence of the sacrifice of Christ? Would it make you forget what you're thoughts should be on?

And? Much of the early church welcomed persecution, a concept which is utterly foreign to the modern western Church. I hope I never have to go through something like that but if I do, I don't care, and I don't care if I have a mark on myself, in my house, or on my car that causes me to be rounded up. I am neither ashamed nor afraid.

So you wouldn't go into hiding if there was a serious warrant out on all Christians?

I have never seen a cross or Ichthus fish used for anything but a reference to Christianity, so I fail to see where there is any confusion at all.

The whole reason Christians used it as a secret symbol is because Greeks, Romans, and many other pagans used the fish symbol before Christians. So they were safe using it becasue they would not draw attention. But what were the pagans using it for? Fertility symbol?

Dagon. Fish God. Apostate Judaism.

There are also MANY different types of crucifix symbols which have been used for occult purposes.

 

[Chris]

IF I was to have one it would have to be on the drivers side back door on the window so no one could se it when you are overtaking. J.K

nah we dont we have a butterfly, it might be a christian.

 

[Adstar]

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Actually, our faith was never meant to be just internal and just spiritual. There are aspects of it which are internal and spiritual but it most certainly does not stop there. That the Ichthus fish may have a pagan origin is irrelevant to it's known Christian use and may be used as such.

It's only idol worship if you worship it.

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Same with easter, Same with christmas. You don't defeat paganism by adopting their days and their customs in a vain attempt to gazump them. All you do is preserve paganism for its later revival and give ammunition to those who teach that Christianity is false because of supposed pagan origins.


All Praise The Ancient Of Days

 

[Strangelove]

Maybe if christans did not adopt the fish then the memory of Ichthus would have died. And maybe we would not have the attacks by the false ones today saying that Christianity’s origins are pagan. Much damage has been done because of the adoption of paganism by some religious christian organisations.

Same with easter, Same with christmas. You don't defeat paganism by adopting their days and their customs in a vain attempt to gazump them. All you do is preserve paganism for its later revival and give ammunition to those who teach that Christianity is false because of supposed pagan origins.


All Praise The Ancient Of Days

Lolz. Gazump. Brilliant.

I'm giving Adstar 'word of the month' for that.

Uhm.....agree with your points there Ad.