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Do you have demons?

Are demons real

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duncdawg,

And 'this' my friend, is what I've been stating all along. Thank you for your addition to this thread.

And here is 'someone' that seems to understand the parable offered by Christ Himself concerning 'cleaning one's house'. That once done, one 'must' continue 'in the Spirit' or be susceptible to the 'reinfestation of demons 'worse' than in the beginning.
 
Imagican - I haven't forgotten this thread - just busy and may take a while to get to it. Your reply is worthy of response and I shall when I can.
So much to do and so little time.

Regards
 
Imagican

Just been giving the posts here a bit of a review and need to clarify my understanding of your position.

For the purposes of my posts here I will refer to those who are born-again as ‘Christians’ and those who are not born-again as ‘non-Christians’ although as I said earlier I recognise there are those who consider that they are Christians but are not born again.

I said in an earlier post, “I want to make it clear that demonic possession is completely different to being subject to, or tempted by, the ‘wiles of the devil’.â€Â

Your response was, “So, satan is working to destroy Christ. He has demons at his disposal. But, from your perspective, they are unable to possess Christians? What possible purpose would it serve satan or his minions to influence the 'lost'? And if he and his minions are unable to possess Christians, why are we, Christians, warned against them?

Now, by my reading of this, you may not be seeing the distinction between possession & temptation, but correct me if I am wrong.
So let me state my position in absolute terms and as concisely as possible
Christian: Cannot be possessed (by demons). Can be (and are) tempted by satan.
non-Christian: Can be possessed (by demons). Can be (and are) tempted by satan.

Of course satan works to defeat what he perceives as the purposes of God in Christians – by temptation and subtle wiles. Sometimes though, Christians are ‘handed over’ to satan in order that Gods purposes of refining & repentance are outworked in that person’s life. Now Satan is not omniscient. He does not know the beginning from the end and he does not know how his efforts will often ultimately bring glory to God.

And since he is not omniscient he does not know who is ultimately destined for God’s kingdom, so he certainly does influence non Christians.

Demon possession though is something else. Demons (evil / unclean spirits) want a house upon which and from which they can wreak havoc. A man of God I know was demon possessed (obviously before he was born again) and his life is testimony to the power of God to deliver such a one from the grip of Satan to newness of life through Christ. And that is the only way that such a house can be kept clean to prevent a worse state of possession.
 
Exactly what I have been trying to offer.

As Christ's parable concerning the man that 'cleaned' his house, (became saved?), by 'slidding back' into a state of complacency, it seems that he 'opened' himself once again to the influence of 'demon possession', so that his state in the end was 'worse' than that at the beginning.

Satan is unable to influence more than a 'single' individual at a time. His minions however are numerous and it is obvious from scripture that many more than one may 'possess' an individual at a time.

Since 'anti-Christ' will directly emulate Christ Himself, is there any doubt that anti-Christ offers a 'spirit' that closely emulates that of Christ, or the Holy Spirit? Now, the important question: How would one that was 'unlearned' be able to distinguish between a spirit of 'anti-Christ and the Holy Spirit? I mean, isn't it quite possible that there are many out there that have been deceived by a 'spirit' that is NOT the Holy Spirit, yet they 'believe' that it IS the Holy Spirit? And wouldn't this 'spirit' perhaps be nothing more than demons offering a spiritual 'sensation' that closely resembles that of the Holy Spirit?

I mean it is obvious that ALL denominations can NOT be correct or teaching the truth if they are all teaching something different. Each insists that it is 'filled' with the Holy Spirit, yet it this even possible? Can the Holy Spirit dwell in a group that is following something other than the Word of God? Will the Holy Spirit dwell among those that follow anti-Christ?

Now, how would one following 'lies' know that what they considered the Holy Spirit was NOT something so closely emulating it that they were being deceived into following anti-Christ through the influence of demons.
 
I feel compelled to revive this 'dead thread', (here I go again, right?).

And let me warn you ahead of time: This one's NOT for the faint of heart and it's a LONG ONE. So, don't get mad at me, I'm just the messenger.

Has anyone out there ever thought about 'where' their thougts come from? I mean, as a Christian, most of us would think that our thoughts could only be of our love for God and our neighbors, right? Funny, but I'll bet that anyone that 'truly' has ANY of the Spirit that dwells within them, each of these that are 'able' to, are able to admit that there are MANY times that their thoughts are NOT of love for ANYTHING or ANYONE other than themselves. And that MANY MANY times their thoughts of others are NOT of love towards these individuals but hate, envy, lust, anger, etc, etc........... Now, where do you suppose these thoughts come from?

If man was made in the image of God, then our thoughts in the beginning should have been those that were in tuned with those of God, true? If this is the case, then we would be forced to assume that those thoughts that differ from those that God would have us think are from 'somewhere' else. Manipulated BY something else.

What I refer to is that ability for all of us, to at times, have really REALLY negative thoughts. Anger, lust, hate, envy, jealousy, etc...... And we KNOW just how EVIL they really are, (if we EVEN know OF Christ), for as soon as we catch ourselves with these thoughts in mind, we instantly realize a feeling of guilt and EVEN oftentimes are forced to ask ourselves, WHY would I think something like that?

Here's my point: Demons, once again.

There are some that I have witnessed on this forum that seem to understand that we are quickly aproaching the END. The return of Christ. If those and myself are EVEN CLOSE to correct, then, do you REALLY think that God is going to destroy a 'world' full of 'righteous' people? I mean, we DO have the Word as a history lesson if we were to use it for NOTHING else.

At one point in man's past, there was ONLY one righteous decendant of Adam and Eve and the Bible states that EVERY other descendant of Adam and Eve had allowed their hearts to become EVIL CONTINUALLY. So God destroy ALL OF THEM. All but ONE. Do you REALLY believe that this time the world is destroyed, that it will be destroyed with thousands or millions of Christians living upon it and following the WILL OF GOD?

And to even believe this possible would show that those that do so are following their OWN will rather than that of the Father. For as I have already stated, we have the evidence of 'just such an event to take place in the future', already having taken place in the past. Not only evidence of ONE event, (Noah), we also have the story of Lot.

That's TWO examples of God destroying EVERYONE except one man and his family. And, wait a second, is there another? Ah, yeah, I think so. One more example. I think the man's name was, ah, let me see here, oh, oh yeah, his name was Moses. At one point God became so 'upset' with the hardness of heart, exhibited by the Hebrews in the desert, that He threatened to destroy ALL OF THEM and start over with MOSES. That makes THREE examples.

So, with these things in mind, once again, I ask, "Is God going to destroy a world FULL of righteous people? And if NOT, and we are SO close to the end, what is the logical conclusion. EXACTLY, ABOUT 99 percent of those that 'think' they are following God through His Son are doing nothing but offering watered-down testamony and fooling themselves and others all the while. They are as lost as a bunch of deaf bats.

Now, how could this be? Demons, Baby. Demon posession on a grand scale never before witnessed on this planet. Percentage wise, maybe NO DIFFERENT than that at the time of Noah, but in shear numbers, like nothing ever dreamed of or possible up until NOW.

If you are confused about what I am refering to, go back and read the previous posts on this thread.

Ever caught yourself reading stories in the Bible and ask yourself, "How could they be SO blind", in reference to those that had turned their backs on God and worshiped 'other' gods? Like when Moses climbed the mountain to receive the commandments, and the people, too anxious to await his return, 'made the golden-calf' to worship. Ever thought, 'what's was wrong with these people'? Funny, but the answer lies in EACH and EVERYONE of US!! YES, US.

We ARE this SAME people. Allowing the influence of Satan's demons to convince us that we are SOMETHING DIFFERENT. It took Satan himself to beguile Eve and to tempt Jesus. But we have become SO WEAK, that it's nothing other than the pionic minions of Satan that offer their influence to US. Otherwise we are long AWAY from the End.

And guys and gals, guess how you have been introduced to MOST of your demons? Your glorified, lifted up and self sanctified,,,your precious, precious, over rated and venerated CHURCHES.

So, who's your daddy? God? Many here would say outright that Jesus is their God. Is He now? The Bible, (the Word), tells us that God is God and that there IS NO OTHER. It also plainly states that Jesus IS the SON OF GOD. The ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD. Yet, in order to turn Him into some kind of IDOL, many would believe and teach OTHERS that Jesus IS GOD.

NOW, how do you think this happened? The apostles KNEW that Jesus WAS/IS the Son of God. What happened that would allow 'almost' the entire 'Christian' community to turn from this, that those filled with the Spirit KNEW, and follow some 'other' teaching?

For those that will immediately take offense to what I have offered: Do you really think that the Jews were AWARE of what they were doing when they began to worship FALSE gods?

Well, if your answer is YES, then I presume that you understand much less of the Word than you 'think' that you do. If they were aware, WHY WOULD GOD NEED SEND HIS PROPHETS TO WARN THEM? Because they had been beguiled, much as Eve had been. They had veered off on the 'wrong' path and God was FORCED, (through His love for man), to send His prophets to warn them. EVEN then, they were usually ignored, sometimes MURDERED, and it took almost total death or slavery for God's people to turn back to Him.

AND THESE WERE GOD'S CHOSEN, get this people, GOD'S CHOSEN, let me say it ONE MORE TIME, GOD'S CHOSEN PEOPLE, that went through this, OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

I know, I know, BUT WE ARE BETTER THAN THEY WERE, RIGHT? Wrong. We are the SAME. The same people 'thinking' that we are 'doing' what it takes to be 'Christians'. Funny, but I don't see anyone that is teaching this 'stuff', living like Christ did. I don't see them GIVING what they own for the betterment of their neighbors. I don't see them suffering. I see those that perpetuate the 'spreading' of demons, LIVING IT UP. Totally in agreement with the 'world'. Having a good old time at the expense of the NAME of Christ.

OSAS, the RCC, 'Trinitarians', those allowing women to 'run the churches', those allowing women to 'run their houses', those defending homosexuals, those committing adultury in the churches, those stealing from GOD. You know, this list could take up a longer amount of space than this entire post has so far. Yet these are who many would defend as their 'leaders'. So be it.

It's time to wake up folks, and face the demons. And you know, the demons aren't going to 'like' this exposure. It is going to make them HOT. I mean, they'll be about to explode, wait and see. For they DON'T want you to know that they exist. They would like VERY MUCH for you to believe that they are nothing more than cartoon characters on the Saturday morning television. Just a 'joke'. Not real by ANY MEANS.

Satan's biggest lies are almost completely the 'truth', remember? How better to thwart an exposure than to simply say, "Yeah, you're right, I'm a demon, (can you believe this guy, he thinks I'm a demon. He's just crazy. Ha ha ha ha, demons, yeah right." Do you see where I'm going here folks? Boy, I sure hope that somebody does, otherwise, it's time to head to the hills.

In closing, I'm going to let EACH and EVERY PERSON on this forum CONVICT THEMSELVES of these words that I have offered. ANY ONE OF YOU, INCLUDING MYSELF, THAT HAS READ THE WORD KNOW that YOU ARE NOT LIVING FOR CHRIST!!!! Living WITH Christ's name in your mouth maybe, but EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US KNOWS, when we READ THE WORD that we aren't even making the slightest of efforts to 'truly' live FOR GOD THROUGH HIS SON. The question is, what are you going to do now? Let thy Yea be Yea, and thy Nay be Nay.


April Fools Folks. (HA HA HA).
 
I think it must have 'mixed' em up so much that they don't know what to say.

I ask you Mutz, what do you think? Did I miss the mark?

We know that there ARE demons. We also know, that Christians were warned against them. Where else COULD the different interpretations of GOD'S WORD COME FROM if not Satan himself, spread about by his 'demons'.

I know that there are many that insist that demons are scarcely worth mention. Makes me wonder if these are not those most influenced? I know that if I were a demon and was working 'under-cover', the LAST thing I would want would be for someone or something to expose me. Do you think that it would be any different with them? Hard to 'cast out' something that you are 'unaware' of.
 

Babylon, which signifies the Catholic Church, has become a habitation of demons. They cried out as they saw the smoke of her burning. Her smoke goeth up unto the ages of the ages Revelation 18:2, 18; Revelation 19:3.


Harry
 
Has 'become' or 'has always been?

One IS forced to wonder about a religion that murders those that refuse to accept their teachings. Not JUST the Catholics, but ANY religion that teaches hate or doesn't teach the LOVE of God and Christ.

And then, when one considers that often, those that 'seemed' to have been the ones on the 'right' track were murdered for their inability to turn away from their understanding, it seems even more likely that those that were doing the killing were doing so to eliminate the 'truth' rather than establish or perpetuate it. Willing to murder anyone and destroy ANYTHING that got in the way of the establishment of 'their' religion rather than humble themselves to the will of God.

Regardless of what many would have many others 'believe', there is little that a man can do to help others create a 'personal' relationship with the Father through His Son except explain that IT IS THE ONLY WAY. At this point it's only a matter of allowing Christ into ones heart and heeding the influence of the HOLY SPIRIT, not just ANY spirit. And what would ANY other spirit 'really' be?

So, ANY religion that teaches anything BUT that which would 'promote' a personal relationship IS teaching men to worship 'other' men. As with MOST Protestant denominations and the Catholic Church, they teach a worship of Pastors and Priest INSTEAD of the Father through His Son.

Now, the important question: Where does this 'false' tradition really come from. From the hearts of men themselves, or is there another force that influences them so?

Here we find ourselves back to the demon 'theory' that I have offered. NOT necessarily a 'total' possession, just enough to allow those that subvert the Word to believe that it is their choice in interpretation. Just enough influence to still allow them to believe that the choices they make are their own. After generations of this, it's easy to see how askew the general understanding could be turned aside and generated into something COMPLETELY different than that first taught and understood.
 
Imagican said:
I think it must have 'mixed' em up so much that they don't know what to say.

I ask you Mutz, what do you think? Did I miss the mark?

We know that there ARE demons. We also know, that Christians were warned against them. Where else COULD the different interpretations of GOD'S WORD COME FROM if not Satan himself, spread about by his 'demons'.

I know that there are many that insist that demons are scarcely worth mention. Makes me wonder if these are not those most influenced? I know that if I were a demon and was working 'under-cover', the LAST thing I would want would be for someone or something to expose me. Do you think that it would be any different with them? Hard to 'cast out' something that you are 'unaware' of.
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Yes I am well aware of the existence of demons and of Satan's attempts to deceive us in whatever way he can. I am not so sure though about the influence of demons in the way you are describing. I am not saying it is wrong. I have had no directive in that regard.

What I do know though is that demon possession (ie a demon or demons inhabiting the physical being) is not possible when that person is born again. Clearly many people believe they are born again and are not, hence the so-called deliverance of christians from demonic possession.

But thanks for the provocation. I'm interested to see how others respond but so far I'd say they are a pack of stunned mullets.
 
Revelation 9:20-21
Verse 20. "And the rest of the men who were not killed by these plagues." This signifies those in the Protestant church who are not so spiritually dead from visionary reasonings, and from the love of self, the pride of their own intelligence, and from lusts, as those before mentioned, and yet make faith alone the head of their religion. "Yet repented not of the works of their hands." This signifies that neither did they shun the things that are of their proprium, which are evils of every kind, as sins. "That they should not adore demons." This signifies that they are in the evils of their concupiscences, and make one with the demons in hell. "And idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and wood." This signifies that they are in worship from mere falsities. "Which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk." This signifies, in which there is nothing of spiritual and truly rational life.

Verse 21. "Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their enchantments, nor of their whoredoms, nor of their thefts," signifies that the heresy of faith alone induces on their hearts stupidity, tergiversation, and hardness, so that they do not think anything of the precepts of the Decalogue, nor indeed of any sin that it ought to be shunned because it is in favor of the devil and against God.

The very demons today are the ones who preach false ideas in church, like Jerry Farwell and Pat Robertson. A demon is one who believes in false ideas and loves evil.

Harry :fadein:
 
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I will actually disagree with you here Free. Experience seems to dictate otherwise in this area of possession. Okay, so possessions are EXTREMELY rare. oppresions are much more common. Okay, I dont want to seem like a a pagan sucked in by Hollywood, but you saw the "Exorcism of Emily Rose"? Well, it was a true story. The girl's case is up in the Church. She could be a Saint (big S saint). Essentially, a young Christian girl, specifically Catholic, gets possessed by EXTREMELY powerful demons. Yes, it was a movie. But yes... it was also real. She has a memorial that is now a pilgrimage site.

Is it likely that Christians will be possessed? I dunno. They dont expose themselves to activities that could get them possessed (at least they shouldnt). I think you would enjoy the book "And exorcist tells his story". Scary one. Catholic priests have all the fun... (but I think I'd rather leave it to them)

...seguay out...
 
SpiritualSon said:

Babylon, which signifies the Catholic Church, has become a habitation of demons. They cried out as they saw the smoke of her burning. Her smoke goeth up unto the ages of the ages Revelation 18:2, 18; Revelation 19:3.


Harry
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You make me sad. Got plenty to say about your 'church,' but I dont think you wanna hear it. Why ya gotta make statements like that bout mine... and God's?
 
Okay, so I read the long post... was it an april fools joke post? Im lost... cause the discussion has continued... so I dont know if I should respond, so I will respond very little... so as not to waste too much time.

And guys and gals, guess how you have been introduced to MOST of your demons? Your glorified, lifted up and self sanctified,,,your precious, precious, over rated and venerated CHURCHES.
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I hope you are kidding....

I know, I know, BUT WE ARE BETTER THAN THEY WERE, RIGHT? Wrong. We are the SAME. The same people 'thinking' that we are 'doing' what it takes to be 'Christians'. Funny, but I don't see anyone that is teaching this 'stuff', living like Christ did. I don't see them GIVING what they own for the betterment of their neighbors. I don't see them suffering. I see those that perpetuate the 'spreading' of demons, LIVING IT UP. Totally in agreement with the 'world'. Having a good old time at the expense of the NAME of Christ.
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Ever been to a convent or monastary? Look at religous orders in the RCC.

Heck, you could look at the DeMontfort Consecration to Jesus through Mary.

OSAS, the RCC, 'Trinitarians', those allowing women to 'run the churches', those allowing women to 'run their houses', those defending homosexuals
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Again, I hope you are kidding... grouping us with them? All the groups we teach and preach against? Heck, Massachusets legalizes gay unions and the 4 bishops of Mass. decided to shut down their Catholic adoption programs because the State tried to force them to put kids with same sex couples.

So, yeah... I hope it was a joke...

As for the premise of the entire post... its in error. Not everything is of demons. We still have two other enemies, the world and the flesh. Both very real. Both not demons. We're human... and we got choices. Sometimes demons arent even necessary. We also got two angels for every demon. (Revelation: a third of the stars fell from the sky)
 
belovedwolfofgod said:
SpiritualSon said:

Babylon, which signifies the Catholic Church, has become a habitation of demons. They cried out as they saw the smoke of her burning. Her smoke goeth up unto the ages of the ages Revelation 18:2, 18; Revelation 19:3.


Harry
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You make me sad. Got plenty to say about your 'church,' but I dont think you wanna hear it. Why ya gotta make statements like that bout mine... and God's?
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belovedwolfofgod,
You'll be more sadder when you find out in the next life, that your church had it all wrong. That it falsied the Word, by invented the doctrine of three Divine persons. Do you ever question the doctrines of your church or believe them on blind faith? The demons are not only in the Catholic Church, but also in the Protestant Church, because both churches teach false ideas.

I study the writings of Swedenborg.
The Holy Word of God was written in correspondences. The word "woman" in the Holy Word means church. Babylon, signifies having power over the souls of others.
Revelation 16:14-17
Verse 14. "For they are spirits of demons." This signifies that they were the lusts of falsifying truths and of reasoning from falsities. "Doing signs, to go away unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them together to the battle of that great day of God Almighty." This signifies attestations that their falsities are truths, and the stirring up of all in the whole of that church who are in the same falsities, to attack the truths of the New Church.

Verse 15. "Behold, I come as a thief; happy is he that is awake and keepeth his garments." This signifies the Lord's coming, and heaven then for those who look to Him, and remain steadfast in a life according to His precepts, which are the truths of the Word. "That he may not walk naked, and they see his shame." This signifies lest they should be with those who are in no truths, and their infernal loves should appear.

Verse 16. "And he gathered them together into a place called in Hebrew Armageddon." This signifies the state of combat from falsities against truths, and the disposition of destroying the New Church, arising from the love of dominion and supereminence.

Verse 17. "And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air" This signifies influx into all things together with them. "And there went forth a great voice out of the temple of heaven from the throne, saying, It is done." This signifies that it was made manifest by the Lord, that all the things of the church were devastated, and that now the Last Judgment is at hand.

Did you know that Michael in Revelation 12, signifies those who are member of the New Church, who fight from truth. The battle between Michael and the dragon, which is the devil and satan, is taken place today.Every time I look at a picture of Michael with a sword in one hand and holding down the devil with his foot, I think of myself doing battle from the Lord,against the devil. When you learn the real truth from the Lord, and live according to it, you become a Michael, and do battle against the demons.

Harry :fadein:
 
You must also remember this verse from the very beginning of Genesis, directly after the fall.

Gen 3:15 I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; she will strike at your head, while you strike at her heel.

My brother, this is a foreshadowing of the Blessed Virgin and her enmity with the serpent... and then the result of that enmity. She is also the archtype of the Church. The RCC is the last christian church to actually give her the hyperdulia she deserves... Im fairly confident that the 'whore of babylon' wont be a type of the Virgin... unless of course she was not the virgin we all thought she was (or I know she was).
 
On the first page of posts:

I agree with you, Asimov, on the 'want' and 'lack of strength of will'.

The 'fact' that you don't see demons if they do indeed exist should do nothing in forming your opinion short of the biases in our culture binding myth to religion. I have heard four accounts of sitings of demons by my friends and family. I find at least one hard to believe because I do not believe that he has the quality of character to be credible even if he is a friend (he is a wiccan by the way and claims to have spoken to one).

The second comes from a relative who is known to have a drinking problem. This makes this source hard to believe as well. No alcohol was mentioned in the event, but it should not be completely ruled out. It may well have been a nightmare from the effects of alcohol and the fact that they had been reading a horror book that night. Though I could only vouch for the horror novel as I don't believe I know what part alcohol plays in it.

The third comes from a credible source who is a relative of mine. In both the second's and third's account the demons appeared as smoke to them. However, the people in both the accounts are closely related (even though one of them definitely is credible and the other certainly is on such a weighty matter, save for a problem with alcohol). The third siting also happened at a witch's home. In the home there were foul in cages all around the place as I remember. The relative of mine saw a sort of smoke slowly moving across the floor. She apparently got the chills and left in a hurry. Now I'm currently engaged in searching for an explanation for this one in order to disprove it. I'm looking into wiccan's spell components in order to determine if there is a sort of substance that produces a low-hanging smoke when burned that they might use.

The fourth comes from a supposed ex-priest friend of mine who was shoved hard into a wall during an exorcism. I do not know whether he is a credible source because I have known him only over the net. However, I have known him for a while and he does appear to be a decent person. I cannot rule in our out any of these as I have not witnessed these experiences for myself. Yet for demons, angels, and aliens to be fake, one would have to disprove every siting as a wild imagination, drug influence, hoax, or the like.
 
From Swedenborg
About the Dragon

It is amazing that although the dragon, or the "old serpent," does not cease to persecute believers - so very cunningly that I cannot describe his wiles and poisons - he has nevertheless admitted several times that he knows better than all others that Jesus Christ is the God of the universe, and governs the universe.
Moreover, spirits can also speak with him, and I have spoken with him just as with another person, often exposing his tricks in front of him. But I have done this only [through] spirits. Those who are in the heavens do not speak except through spirits.

Harry
 
Packrat,

I have a challenge for both you and any others that deny demons and the power that they may hold over individuals. It is this:

There is a really, really neat story about a man named L. Ron Hubbard. I am quite sure that you have heard this name. It is a biography of this EVIL man from the time he was a youngster until the time of his death. It is easily googled by searching for 'The Barefaced Messiah'. Or, simply follow this link:

http://www.clambake.org/archive/books/bfm/bfmconte.htm

Not only will it offer an explanation of the twisted religion that he founded called 'Scientology', it gives great insight into the subject at hand.

So, for ANYONE that questions the existence of demons, read this story and I guarantee you that you will come away with a MUCH better understanding of them.

And, if demons existed during the time of Christ and Christ empowered the apostles to 'cast them out', is there really any way that one who truly believes in the Word could doubt or deny their existence NOW?

All you 'demon doubters', just read the story that I have indicated and get back with me. Not only is it an interesting story, it is a piece of history that bears understanding. Also shows how easy it is to lead those that are lost.
 
belovedwolfofgod said:
You must also remember this verse from the very beginning of Genesis, directly after the fall.

Gen 3:15 I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; she will strike at your head, while you strike at her heel.

My brother, this is a foreshadowing of the Blessed Virgin and her enmity with the serpent... and then the result of that enmity. She is also the archtype of the Church. The RCC is the last christian church to actually give her the hyperdulia she deserves... Im fairly confident that the 'whore of babylon' wont be a type of the Virgin... unless of course she was not the virgin we all thought she was (or I know she was).
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Genesis 3:15
Verse 15. And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; He shall trample upon thy head, and thou shalt bruise His heel. Everyone is aware that this is the first prophecy of the Lord's advent into the world; it appears indeed clearly from the words themselves, and therefore from them and from the prophets even the Jews knew that a Messiah was to come. However no one has understood what is specifically meant by the "serpent" the "woman" the "serpent's seed" the "woman's seed" the "head of the serpent which was to be trodden upon" and the "heel which the serpent should bruise." They must therefore be explained, because the Holy Word of God was written in correspondences. By the "serpent" is here meant all evil in general, and specifically the love of self; by the "woman" is meant the church, not Mary; by the "seed of the serpent" all infidelity; by the "seed of the woman" faith in the Lord; by "He" the Lord Himself; by the "head of the serpent" the dominion of evil in general, and specifically that of the love of self; by to "trample upon" depression, so that it should "go upon the belly and eat dust;" and by the "heel" the lowest natural (as the corporeal), which the serpent should "bruise."

Harry
 
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