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mondar said:13 And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? What shall I say unto them?
14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.
seekandlisten said:Can we describe God? Does God need a name?
mondar said:13 And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? What shall I say unto them?
14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.
I agree. We can't even have a conversation about "God" if we don't know who we are talking about. Most religions have irreconcilably different ideas about who or what "God" is. The Christian God has a name for at least one reason: He has a personality; He is a Person, so to speak; He is immanent.rEVOLVEr said:"Does God need a name?" I would think so.
Iirc, "I AM THAT I AM," comes from or is related to YHWH ("to be"), transliterated as Yahweh. It's been a while since I looked into that but I'm sure someone will verify or clarify.rEVOLVEr said:What should I say? "Drear Mr. I AM THAT I AM"?
Free said:I agree. We can't even have a conversation about "God" if we don't know who we are talking about. Most religions have irreconcilably different ideas about who or what "God" is. The Christian God has a name for at least one reason: He has a personality; He is a Person, so to speak; He is immanent.rEVOLVEr said:"Does God need a name?" I would think so.
Iirc, "I AM THAT I AM," comes from or is related to YHWH ("to be"), transliterated as Yahweh. It's been a while since I looked into that but I'm sure someone will verify or clarify.rEVOLVEr said:What should I say? "Drear Mr. I AM THAT I AM"?
There is no such thing as a "J" in Hebrew. The tetragrammaton has some small amount of history behind it. The Jewish script was originally a consonantal language only. Originally Hebrew was written in the Paleo-Hebrew Script. It takes a specialist to read that stuff and very few people know Paleo-Hebrew. Their original alphabet was borrowed from the Pheonecians I believe. I do not know if Paleo-Hebrew is a consonental language as the more modern Jewish script. About the time of Ezra they began using the more modern Jewish script. So the name of God in the scriptures went through a script change. Then a little after the time of Christ, the masoretic scribes added consonants to the language. Unfortunately, these scribes did not add the vowels to the name of God. They did this out of reverence. So the exact pronunciation of the vowels in the name YHWH has been lost. I dont know who later inserted the vowels to the name or how that happened. By the way... if you read modern Hebrew, they dropped the vowels out of their language again. The only people that use vowel pointings in Hebrew are usually Christians.rEVOLVEr said:Free said:I agree. We can't even have a conversation about "God" if we don't know who we are talking about. Most religions have irreconcilably different ideas about who or what "God" is. The Christian God has a name for at least one reason: He has a personality; He is a Person, so to speak; He is immanent.rEVOLVEr said:"Does God need a name?" I would think so.
Iirc, "I AM THAT I AM," comes from or is related to YHWH ("to be"), transliterated as Yahweh. It's been a while since I looked into that but I'm sure someone will verify or clarify.rEVOLVEr said:What should I say? "Drear Mr. I AM THAT I AM"?
Thank you.
Is Jehovah the same as Yahweh?
rEVOLVEr said:mondar said:13 And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? What shall I say unto them?
14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.
You may think otherwise but IF there is a heaven, I have a really good shot going there and I would like to be polite with the host.
What should I say? "Drear Mr. I AM THAT I AM"?
handy said:rEVOLVEr said:mondar said:13 And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? What shall I say unto them?
14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.
You may think otherwise but IF there is a heaven, I have a really good shot going there and I would like to be polite with the host.
What should I say? "Drear Mr. I AM THAT I AM"?
Since it will be at His name that your knee will bow and your tongue will confess that He is Lord, and since there is salvation in no other name, you just might want to call Him Jesus. ;)
Jesus is Greek, not Hebrew. But that's irrelevant because there's no J in the Greek either. It's the English version of Yahashua (Hebrew) & Iesous (Greek)rEVOLVEr said:According to the previous comment "There is no such thing as a "J" in Hebrew."
So, Jehovah is not good but Jesus is good?
toddm said:Jesus is Greek, not Hebrew. But that's irrelevant because there's no J in the Greek either. It's the English version of Yahashua (Hebrew) & Iesous (Greek)rEVOLVEr said:According to the previous comment "There is no such thing as a "J" in Hebrew."
So, Jehovah is not good but Jesus is good?
jasoncran said:i use to use that name alot when i was a jw, but it isnt really is name but the attempt to find the name(vowels) in the tetrgrammation. it was a combo YHWH, and ADONAI. if i recall correctly.
i dont like that name it is associated with jw, more than the other denomations.
handy said:Since it will be at His name that your knee will bow and your tongue will confess that He is Lord, and since there is salvation in no other name, you just might want to call Him Jesus. ;)
jasoncran said:keep in mind that one can use the conventant names and or the simple abba, father.
conevant names,
el-shaddai
jehovah-nissa,
jehovah-jirah
this is from the kjv, and it does use that name jehovah and i'm not a biblical scholar as i mentioned that name earlier, and it used as a tradition, since YHWH or YHVW or LORD is used where the bible says I am the LORD GOD of Isreal or anything with LORD GOD
the hebrews never pronounced the name of the lord save a few times during the day of atonement. and that was ceased and only the name was written without vowels, typical hebrew, vowels are pronounced but not written, thus the YHWH. Yahweh would be the best to use or Jesus.
adonai
a few for now.
I agree that Jehovah is not His name. As a matter of fact it is a blasphemy of His name. God's name is Yahwah. The proto semitic did not use the letter E for a vowel.rEVOLVEr said:jasoncran said:i use to use that name alot when i was a jw, but it isnt really is name but the attempt to find the name(vowels) in the tetrgrammation. it was a combo YHWH, and ADONAI. if i recall correctly.
i dont like that name it is associated with jw, more than the other denomations.
That helps too. At least we can conclude that Jehovah is definitely not the name of God.
I hope everyone else agrees with this so we can move on and find the real name.