Bible Study DOES THE HOLY SPIRIT HELPER ABLE TO READ MINDS?

[thesaintman]

CAN YOU SAY ME IT ==????

 

[Knotical]

One of many spiritual gifts that may be imparted by the Holy Spirit is discernment. This is probably as close as we can get to reading minds. But there really is no such thing as reading minds.

 

[th1b.taylor]

The Holy Spirit is the Third Person of the One Triune God and God being omnipresent knew what you could/would think before you were born. The foreknowledge of God is a worthy study.

 

[Knotical]

The Holy Spirit is the Third Person of the One Triune God and God being omnipresent knew what you could/would think before you were born. The foreknowledge of God is a worthy study.

I believe the OP is asking whether the Holy Spirit gives us the ability to read minds.

 

[Brother Mike]

One of many spiritual gifts that may be imparted by the Holy Spirit is discernment. This is probably as close as we can get to reading minds. But there really is no such thing as reading minds.

People argue that God knows the End from the Beginning. I don't agree, and some don't because they say it's not foreknowledge, but election.
One thing the scripture do say God knows is the heart, and intents of the Heart. If God knows anything, it would be the motives and thoughts of the heart.

The mind is flesh, so thoughts can be placed there by devils. Devils don't operate to place things in the spirit of man, but the Holy Spirit speaks through our spirit. The Word perpetrates spirit and flesh thoughts.

The devil can also read flesh thoughts, this is how he knows if something planted is being meditated on and fed inside us.

Edit: no disrespect to Bill's understanding, He posted same time I did, and I had not seen it until now. I don't find God's foreknowledge of what "A" man will do anywhere in scripture.

Mike.

 

[Knotical]

People argue that God knows the End from the Beginning. I don't agree, and some don't because they say it's not foreknowledge, but election.
One thing the scripture do say God knows is the heart, and intents of the Heart. If God knows anything, it would be the motives and thoughts of the heart.

The mind is flesh, so thoughts can be placed there by devils. Devils don't operate to place things in the spirit of man, but the Holy Spirit speaks through our spirit. The Word perpetrates spirit and flesh thoughts.

The devil can also read flesh thoughts, this is how he knows if something planted is being meditated on and fed inside us.

Edit: no disrespect to Bill's understanding, He posted same time I did, and I had not seen it until now. I don't find God's foreknowledge of what "A" man will do anywhere in scripture.

Mike.

Be careful, this can lead into the heresy of not believing God is Omniscient.

 

[Blake]

God can enable you to do anything. It's possible, yes, but it's unlikely. First you might examine yourself and ask if this gift would glorify you or would it glorify God? And if it's to glorify God, in what way can you reading one's thoughts help you to minister to them? We have to be mindful not to fall into a Simon the Sorcerer mindset. We should never desire the gifts and fruits of the Spirit more than we desire God. Rather, we should seek Him first and more fully, and all else will be added unto us. A revered ancient Christian named Seraphim of Sarov said, "acquire the spirit of peace, and thousands around you shall be saved." The world craves peace. We live in ordered chaos. Real peace comes from holiness, and if you are holy, you will attract people like moths to a flame. The epistle of your life will be the letter that they read and they will know for certain that God exists, and you can help guide them towards the cross.

 

[Brother Mike]

Be careful, this can lead into the heresy of not believing God is Omniscient.

Omnipotent (All powerful) is the only Omni in scriptures. We have to view God as HE says he operates, not what they teach in churches. Omniscient means to know all things, it does not denote fortune telling. Calvinist do not believe in a fortune telling God, but a God that by design causes things, not just crystal ball gazing. So a big chunk of the church world would not agree. In fact it's in their statement, God does not deal with man through foreknowledge, but that can't be 100% correct as God knows the heart of man, and has a very solid idea of what that man is going to do next. Hearts can change though.

God also has to try a man to know what His heart will do.
2Ch_32:31 Howbeit in the business of the ambassadors of the princes of Babylon, who sent unto him to enquire of the wonder that was done in the land, God left him, to try him, that he might know all that was in his heart.

God gives according to the heart, not according to election or foreknowledge.
Jer_17:10 I the LORD search the heart, I try the reins, even to give every man according to his ways, and according to the fruit of his doings.

So, just two scriptures have to be perfect in line with God knows the number of hairs on our head, knows when a bird falls from the sky, and some scriptures we have to ask if God just had blotted groups of people out of his mind, until He was called to go check it out.

It's not as simple as God is omniscient, but where we go, the Holy Spirit Goes, and God is there as the Holy Spirit connects us to the Father.

Eph 2:18 For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.

So before we cry Heresy, Brother Mike always has lots of scriptures to examine, and scriptures all must match, and must change our thinking on things thought previously, least we not grow and be stuck in what someone else believes that is wrong. Not a position we need to be in. We never ignore 5 scriptures and hold onto 2, that is called religion. Every single scripture must be taken into account of those scriptures made known to us.

Blessings.

 

[Knotical]

Omnipotent (All powerful) is the only Omni in scriptures. We have to view God as HE says he operates, not what they teach in churches. Omniscient means to know all things, it does not denote fortune telling. Calvinist do not believe in a fortune telling God, but a God that by design causes things, not just crystal ball gazing. So a big chunk of the church world would not agree. In fact it's in their statement, God does not deal with man through foreknowledge, but that can't be 100% correct as God knows the heart of man, and has a very solid idea of what that man is going to do next. Hearts can change though.

God also has to try a man to know what His heart will do.
2Ch_32:31 Howbeit in the business of the ambassadors of the princes of Babylon, who sent unto him to enquire of the wonder that was done in the land, God left him, to try him, that he might know all that was in his heart.

God gives according to the heart, not according to election or foreknowledge.
Jer_17:10 I the LORD search the heart, I try the reins, even to give every man according to his ways, and according to the fruit of his doings.

So, just two scriptures have to be perfect in line with God knows the number of hairs on our head, knows when a bird falls from the sky, and some scriptures we have to ask if God just had blotted groups of people out of his mind, until He was called to go check it out.

It's not as simple as God is omniscient, but where we go, the Holy Spirit Goes, and God is there as the Holy Spirit connects us to the Father.

Eph 2:18 For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.

So before we cry Heresy, Brother Mike always has lots of scriptures to examine, and scriptures all must match, and must change our thinking on things thought previously, least we not grow and be stuck in what someone else believes that is wrong. Not a position we need to be in. We never ignore 5 scriptures and hold onto 2, that is called religion. Every single scripture must be taken into account of those scriptures made known to us.

Blessings.

And yet God knows what we will do before we do it. He knew before the beginning of time. He just allows things to happen because He is able to still bring glory to Himself no matter the circumstance.

 

[th1b.taylor]

I believe the OP is asking whether the Holy Spirit gives us the ability to read minds.

I'm not sure but that was not what I took from it. Maybe one of us is right... maybe!

 

[Edward]

CAN YOU SAY ME IT ==????

The short answer is yes. I've read credible testimony from a few different folks which testified that, in one instance, God was dealing with him, and had just told him to get out of his car and on his knees on the sidewalk and pray to Him. This man was in a rest area on the highway somewhere in Florida as I recall. When he got out of the car, there was quite a few people around and as he went to his knees, he could hear the thoughts of those around him. Most were disparaging and for some reason the Lord wanted him to hear it.

I do not think that the Lord (Holy Spirit) would grant open ended mind reading capabilities to anyone, but for specific circumstances within the Lords will He has and would do this on such a limited basis. He most certainly can!

He gives out words of knowledge too. Perhaps in some of these occasions the knowledge is imparted to them about someone, but no mind reading was necessary in order to get it, the Lord just knows and gave the info to one of His own.

 

[Brother Mike]

And yet God knows what we will do before we do it. He knew before the beginning of time. He just allows things to happen because He is able to still bring glory to Himself no matter the circumstance.

What scripture is God knew before the beginning of time He knew what each of us would do. If you can give that one please.

God declares the end from the begging. His spoken Word through the Prophets is according to his good pleasure and will, and will come to pass, despite what we do. That is not God just being a fortune teller, that is more election type.

As for God allowing things to happen, what does God allow? If God knows the choice of every single person, and if they go to Heaven and hell, then He would be justified to end everything now and judge, and it would be right and fair.

Like picking up a Rattlesnake. I have a right to judge the snake as it would bite me if I tried to grab it, so I tell the snake even though it has not bitten me yet, it has no right for me to pick it up, based on what it is, and my foreknowledge of what will happen if I do pick it up.

Mike.