Does the Lord change his mind?

[jasoncran]

yes,but if one never did that just said i got a fuzzy feeling then what?

 

[Pard]

yes,but if one never did that just said i got a fuzzy feeling then what?

If everyone just got fuzzy feelings, I'd sheer them, spin it into wool and sell it for mad cash!

 

[stranger]

Hi elijah23,

The instances where the Lord 'changes His mind' from a previously determined course of action' - (usually in the context of judgment) is often cited as an argument against the verse that the Lord is the same today, yesterday and forever. There is of course provision in God's word for such contingencies - if a sinner repents he shall live and if a righteous man sins he shall die' and so on. So what has changed in such cases? What can be said about this? The repentant sinner's disposition to God - and God's disposition to a repentant sinner is consistent. Likewise, the unrepentant sinner's disposition to God and God's disposition to the unrepentant sinner is equally consistent. So God's consistency from this perspective towards the repentant and unrepentant is indeed the same today, as it was at the beginning of time.

 

[jasoncran]

yes,but if one never did that just said i got a fuzzy feeling then what?

If everyone just got fuzzy feelings, I'd sheer them, spin it into wool and sell it for mad cash!

lol, that what those group hugs are for and think of those annoying 80's toon the care bears. i hated that cartoon.

 

[elijah23]

yes,but if one never did that just said i got a fuzzy feeling then what?

To repent of our sin means to stop sinning, I believe. We need to stop sinning.

 

[jasoncran]

yes,but if one never did that just said i got a fuzzy feeling then what?

To repent of our sin means to stop sinning, I believe. We need to stop sinning.

but its more than that, the hebrew does that, one must also confess that the lord is the only that cleanses you from all sin.

we sin daily, if we just stop sinning, and that was enough , the bible would say that. that is part of it but not all of it. we change because we let the lord change our heart and by doing so we sin less and dont desire sinful things or suchlike anymore.


we simply cant be sinless, only christ does that. we must strive to change and santification comes is a very slow pace. we produce fruits as evidence of that changed heart.

 

[elijah23]

yes,but if one never did that just said i got a fuzzy feeling then what?

To repent of our sin means to stop sinning, I believe. We need to stop sinning.

but its more than that, the hebrew does that, one must also confess that the lord is the only that cleanses you from all sin.

we sin daily, if we just stop sinning, and that was enough , the bible would say that. that is part of it but not all of it. we change because we let the lord change our heart and by doing so we sin less and dont desire sinful things or suchlike anymore.


we simply cant be sinless, only christ does that. we must strive to change and santification comes is a very slow pace. we produce fruits as evidence of that changed heart.

No, we have to be perfect, I believe:

You, therefore, must be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect. Matt 5:48 RSV

 

[jasoncran]

be ye holy as i am holy. kjv.

can you honestly say that you are everday without sin. no looking at the girl next to you showing some cleavage in church or that temptation to cuss when you are offended. or judge...ad infitinum and ad nasuem

our hearts are wicked are they not.

 

[Pard]

be ye holy as i am holy. kjv.

can you honestly say that you are everday without sin. no looking at the girl next to you showing some cleavage in church or that temptation to cuss when you are offended. or judge...ad infitinum and ad nasuem

our hearts are wicked are they not.

"But no man can tame the tongue. It is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison" (James 3:8).

 

[elijah23]

be ye holy as i am holy. kjv.

can you honestly say that you are everday without sin. no looking at the girl next to you showing some cleavage in church or that temptation to cuss when you are offended. or judge...ad infitinum and ad nasuem

our hearts are wicked are they not.

Jesus said we must be perfect. Therefore I believe perfection is within reach.

 

[jasoncran]

yeah its the blood that covers us, not our efforts! sin should besomething that we hate and mourn over when we do it. man i need some changing, sometime i have enjoyed sin. :verysad

porn was one of those, but i was delivered from that. it has a stronghold power to it.

 

[elijah23]

yeah its the blood that covers us, not our efforts! sin should besomething that we hate and mourn over when we do it. man i need some changing, sometime i have enjoyed sin. :verysad

porn was one of those, but i was delivered from that. it has a stronghold power to it.

Sin turns our lives into misery. That, in itself, is reason to repent, isn’t it?

 

[Cornelius]

Malachi 3:6 “I the LORD do not change. So you, O descendants of Jacob, are not destroyed.â€

James 1:17 "Every good and perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of the heavenly lights, who does not change like shifting shadows.â€

Numbers 23:19 “God is not a man, that He should lie, nor a son of man, that He should change His mind. Does He speak and then not act? Does He promise and not fulfill?â€

The line you gave, along with a few others in Genesis (6:6) and Exodus (32:14) are improper translations of the Hebrew word. The word is properly translated to regret (though, repent does fit the bill, but it can be misleading). We can regret and be sorry for things we have done, it doesn't mean we reverse them or would change our minds about them.

I regret ever introducing myself this girl named Erin but I'd never, ever, change that.

In that verse from Jonah, God is talking about how He felt bad for what He was gong to do to the Ninevites, but because they repented for their sins He showed mercy, and as you may recall, mercy is totally within God's frame of mind! Furthermore, if we look at that entire chapter in context, God was threatening the Ninevites, He is omnipotent, He knows when a threat will work.

What you are quoting is a line that many atheists use to try and show God is contradicting in His Word and scripture. This is wrong, it is a human projection that people are trying to fit onto God.

Some people’s theologies seem to depend on the idea that the Lord cannot change. I am trying to demonstrate that such theologies are in error.

I agree with Elijah here but its not the Lord really that change, it the promise that stays unfulfilled when the people of God does not meet the condition.

WE fall away through unbelief in the promises : Heb 3:12 Take heed, brethren, lest haply there shall be in any one of you an evil heart of unbelief, in falling away from the living God:

Plus, God can promise something and then we cannot enter , because of unbelief. This is not God changing His mind, its US unable to meet the condition : Heb 3:19 And we see that they were not able to enter in because of unbelief.