Elton John: Religion encourages hatred

[jgredline]

These sorts of posts are one of the reasons Sir Elton does not like Organised Religion. Frankly I cannot find it in me to blame him.

Rev. Ray McIntyre,
Priest
Anglican Church International

Ray
Of course you would feel this way since you are a part of the apostasy of the Church. (IN OTHER WORDS A CULT) You are a priest of a church who welcomes sin. While I agree we are to love the sinner, your church turns around and loves the sin and whats more has made peace with the sin of Homosexuality.
I browswed your web site and there is no mention of well anything other than seeker friendlyness. No Trinity, No Jesus is God, Certainly no mention of Hell, Nada..... You have no credibility.... If you read the Bible, you would see that homosexuality is a sin. Try reading it sometime...

Now do I really need to say more?

http://www.theanglicanchurchinternational.org/

 

[Lewis]

Elton John aside ...I wonder how many here really know what it's like to be in the body of someone who - through NO choosing of their own - has a sexual atrtraction for the same gender? Furthermore, I wonder how many here really know what it's like to be in the body of that person and have to ALSO tolerate the rantings of sanctimonious Christians who persistently tell them that they are going to hell until that orientation is reversed ...?

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[jgredline]

Elton John aside ...I wonder how many here really know what it's like to be in the body of someone who - through NO choosing of their own - has a sexual atrtraction for the same gender? Furthermore, I wonder how many here really know what it's like to be in the body of that person and have to ALSO tolerate the rantings of sanctimonious Christians who persistently tell them that they are going to hell until that orientation is reversed ...?

Lewis
This is typical NEW AGE junk.....straight from the pit of hell.

 

[lawhammer]

Elton John aside ...I wonder how many here really know what it's like to be in the body of someone who - through NO choosing of their own - has a sexual atrtraction for the same gender? Furthermore, I wonder how many here really know what it's like to be in the body of that person and have to ALSO tolerate the rantings of sanctimonious Christians who persistently tell them that they are going to hell until that orientation is reversed ...?

I saw in another thread some of you were wondering whether "moniker" was a homosexual, but "SputnikBoy" here....how would one really know, unless...?

Okay, what I think I would do is to "cure" myself of this. Failing that, I'd pack up and move down to San Francisco. One thing I wouldn't do is visit forums if I had to "ALSO tolerate the rantings of sanctimonious Christians" that thought I was going to Hell, unless that's what I wanted to hear for some reason.....

 

[Jay T]

Why should we concern ourselves with what the professed NON-Christian says ?

It is a basic Bible principle that, EVIL...has always tried to justify its course of action, from the days of Adam & Eve, to today, as the modern day Christian world has fallen into the very same trap.

The Christian world of today justifies, its course of action ...AGAINST.....what God says to do.

Example ?

Eccl. 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this [is] the whole [duty] of man.
12:14 For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether [it be] good, or whether [it be] evil.

The Christian world denies this Bible statement, as being the word of God, in both word and action.

Yet, GOD....says: Revelation 22:14 "Blessed [are] they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city".

Again, the Christian world denies this statement of Jesus Christ's...... Matthew 19:16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? [there is] none good but one, [that is], God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

Many times the cry: 'Legalism', goes forth when anyone mentions the keeping of the commandments of God, regarding salvation.

QUESTION: Did Jesus teach, 'legalism' ?

The reason Elton John fights against religion....is because it (the Law of God) condemns his course of action.

The Christian world is no better, as it also fights against the Law of God because there are things in the Bible which the modern day Christian, does not want to do.

Ever read this Bible verse......
Luke 6:41 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but perceivest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

6:42 Either how canst thou say to thy brother, Brother, let me pull out the mote that is in thine eye, when thou thyself beholdest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

Thou hypocrite, cast out first the beam out of thine own eye, and then shalt thou see clearly to pull out the mote that is in thy brother's eye.

 

[SputnikBoy]

I saw in another thread some of you were wondering whether "moniker" was a homosexual, but "SputnikBoy" here....how would one really know, unless...?

Not sure what you're getting at, lh, but I can assure you that I'm simply my own man whether 'gay', 'straight' or 'A-sexual'. I have my own mind, one that thinks and reasons things out for itself and I thank God for that. I can put one foot in front of the other when I walk without having to consult the Bible first as to whether I'm doing it right. Okay?

Okay, what I think I would do is to "cure" myself of this.

You'd be better off by saying that you honestly don't have a clue what it's like to be in the body of a homosexual as per my question. To say that you would 'cure' yourself is indicative of your ignorance (I don't mean that in an unkind way) to the issue and the underlying complexities that are associated with it. By the way, one's sexual orientation is NOT a religious issue.

Failing that, I'd pack up and move down to San Francisco. One thing I wouldn't do is visit forums if I had to "ALSO tolerate the rantings of sanctimonious Christians" that thought I was going to Hell, unless that's what I wanted to hear for some reason.....

I have every right to be here and present an opposing viewpoint on an issue if I consider it necessary. This is what discussion forums are. By the way, while I know what you mean about 'moving to San Francisco' this forum reaches beyond the U.S. to other countries ...others may not know what you're talking about. And, if I should happen to have a big nose (no caustic remarks from those on the forum who might know me personally! :D ) should I also pack up and move to an area where lots of others have big noses in order to be accepted ...?

Sorry, I don't buy this kind of Christianity at all.

 

[lawhammer]

Not sure what you're getting at, lh, but I can assure you that I'm simply my own man whether 'gay', 'straight' or 'A-sexual'. I have my own mind, one that thinks and reasons things out for itself and I thank God for that. I can put one foot in front of the other when I walk without having to consult the Bible first as to whether I'm doing it right. Okay?

When you said other people had no idea what it was like to be a homosexual, it implied to me you were one. As does the rest of this and other posts.

I managed to do that without consulting the Bible first to see if I was doing it right. Okay?

You'd be better off by saying that you honestly don't have a clue what it's like to be in the body of a homosexual as per my question. To say that you would 'cure' yourself is indicative of your ignorance (I don't mean that in an unkind way) to the issue and the underlying complexities that are associated with it. By the way, one's sexual orientation is NOT a religious issue.

What I said was I would to cure myself if I thought it was issue. I wouldn't expect the entire world to change to accomodate me.

It's NOT a religious issue to you, but the world doesn't revovle around you.

I have every right to be here and present an opposing viewpoint on an issue if I consider it necessary. This is what discussion forums are. By the way, while I know what you mean about 'moving to San Francisco' this forum reaches beyond the U.S. to other countries ...others may not know what you're talking about. And, if I should happen to have a big nose (no caustic remarks from those on the forum who might know me personally! ) should I also pack up and move to an area where lots of others have big noses in order to be accepted ...?

Sorry, I don't buy this kind of Christianity at all.

Well, why don't you "present an opposing viewpoint" that's new?

San Franscico = "gay" capital of the world. Well?

And you don't "buy" any kind of Christianity, now look up. Don't ask questions you don't want answered.

 

[SputnikBoy]

Thanks for the response, lh. I really don't want to become embroiled in petty stuff (as I see it) but I will say that I'm big enough and ugly enough to not care whether people think I'm 'gay' or not. I never make those issues my problem. My advice to homosexuals - or anyone else who feels that there are areas of their lives that they wish to change - is to leave the 'problem' at Jesus' feet and not with other imperfect human beings. They will either be 'cured' or they won't be but at least they will be dealing with the right Person from the outset.

 

[lawhammer]

Thanks for the response, lh. I really don't want to become embroiled in petty stuff (as I see it) but I will say that I'm big enough and ugly enough to not care whether people think I'm 'gay' or not. I never make those issues my problem. My advice to homosexuals - or anyone else who feels that there are areas of their lives that they wish to change - is to leave the 'problem' at Jesus' feet and not with other imperfect human beings. They will either be 'cured' or they won't be but at least they will be dealing with the right Person from the outset.

Now THAT"S a good post.

Ya, it begins within. God Bless.

 

[SputnikBoy]

Now THAT"S a good post.

Ya, it begins within. God Bless.

Thanks, lh.