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Lewis

Lewis

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Well now that I have put the drive belt on my Ford Escort 2.0 SOHC engine it is now running with little power on the low end RPM and the idle is not smooth I dis connected the MAF to see if that made a change and it did not the engine remained the same. I am now looking at the timing because I hear timing belt slap against the cover. When the drive belt broke it might have caused it to jump time. Now I don't feel like changing the timing belt but I will. But before I do I want to exhaust every other avenue to make sure that all issues are taken care of. The air conditioner compressor clutch locked up on me and the belt wrapped around the crank pulley enough to shut the engine off. And I am thinking this could have caused the timing problem. Even though I am going to get another car I would still like to keep this one as my work car.
 
Lewis W said:
Well now that I have put the drive belt on my Ford Escort 2.0 SOHC engine it is now running with little power on the low end RPM and the idle is not smooth I dis connected the MAF to see if that made a change and it did not the engine remained the same. I am now looking at the timing because I hear timing belt slap against the cover. When the drive belt broke it might have caused it to jump time. Now I don't feel like changing the timing belt but I will. But before I do I want to exhaust every other avenue to make sure that all issues are taken care of. The air conditioner compressor clutch locked up on me and the belt wrapped around the crank pulley enough to shut the engine off. And I am thinking this could have caused the timing problem. Even though I am going to get another car I would still like to keep this one as my work car.
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i would check that harmonic balencer , if its a rubber one then its a goner.I would also well do the ac at the same time as the timing belt. That is if you can afford them both.
 
Can't do the AC right now that is why I bought a belt made for that engine without the AC. But I am going to get the AC back by going to a grave yard and getting another compressor. And the balancer is metal. look at this video my timing belt is doing the same thing.

[video=youtube;Rqk4DRvWNRg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rqk4DRvWNRg[/video]
 
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It is a belt. And while driving some of the belt failed and wrapped around the crank pulley, and also the timing belt tensioner has to be playing a major role. I will take it apart Monday.
[video=youtube;Rqk4DRvWNRg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rqk4DRvWNRg[/video]
 
jasoncran said:
i would get the tensioner with that belt as those are prone to wear as well.
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I get the whole thing when I do that, I get the idler pulley the tensioner and the belt. You have to be real dumb to do that. And I was at one time and I did that and the tensioner failed and it was a interference engine so you know what happened, I don't have to tell you do I ?
 
Timing belt tensioner failing on a interference engine will make the pistons crash in to the valves, bending them and sometimes putting a hole in the pistons at least one of them. Also you will get bent valve guides.
 
All I know is what I"ve experienced, Lewis.

I had a Ford Ranger with a belt-driven cam (actually, I've had two). I know I got one to 90000 miles on one belt (non-interference engine, supposedly). I had plugs, plug wires, timing belt, all hoses and air filter replaced at one time.

Obviously, the hoses had nothing to do with it - but the truck ran SO much better. Picked up 2-3 mpg, too. Guy told me that the timing belt DOES stretch a bit over time and this will, of course, throw timing off.

I can't imagine you tossed the timing belt by what happened, but it IS possible.
 
Sounds like its time for the Swaggart method of auto repair

Get some gospel piano music playing Tell God what He has to do... Slap your hands on the hood with a sharp jolt and in a whispered yell say BE heeeld



Dont for get the tongues
 
reba said:
Sounds like its time for the Swaggart method of auto repair

Get some gospel piano music playing Tell God what He has to do... Slap your hands on the hood with a sharp jolt and in a whispered yell say BE heeeld



Dont for get the tongues
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ok. while i know how you feel but dont assume all charismatics are like that. and i have prayed over my cars before and that does work if God so wants to do that. try having the mystery problem you cant find and yrs later YOU find out what it is.

my old bronco 2 would drop the torque converter from being locked up and then lock it for a minute or two then just stop for a while or do it all day or a week.

it was....

a simple open wire hitting a ground that the shops didnt see. i noticed it one day as i was doing an oil change and taped the wire up and moved the harness away from the exhaust. two yrs of that. drove me nuts!
 
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I can't imagine you tossed the timing belt by what happened, but it IS possible.
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More so than anything I think that I have a bad timing belt tension unit. Rubber timing belts made of Kevlar do not give much at all really, they can outlast a metal chain, that can expand and contract. If you search all over the internet you will see that it is about 50-50 with people who think that rubber timing belts can stretch and those that think that they don't. I do know that the early rubber ones did.
 
Lewis W said:
More so than anything I think that I have a bad timing belt tension unit. Rubber timing belts made of Kevlar do not give much at all really, they can outlast a metal chain, that can expand and contract. If you search all over the internet you will see that it is about 50-50 with people who think that rubber timing belts can stretch and those that think that they don't. I do know that the early rubber ones did.
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outlast a chain? we get 200k miles out of chain driven 4.6l engines in cop cars here and they slap when their done. the guides and the tensioners go first before that chain does.
 
I think it depends, metal gets as cold or as hot as it's surroundings, and with that going back and forth they start to have play in them. I like the chains better though.
 
jasoncran said:
outlast a chain? we get 200k miles out of chain driven 4.6l engines in cop cars here and they slap when their done. the guides and the tensioners go first before that chain does.
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My friend in Michigan is still driving my 1993 GMC pickup with the 4.3L V6 in it. Not sure if it's gear or chain driven, but it has 393,000 on it now.
 
Pizzaguy said:
My friend in Michigan is still driving my 1993 GMC pickup with the 4.3L V6 in it. Not sure if it's gear or chain driven, but it has 393,000 on it now.
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the 4.3 v6 is chain driven and has no tensioner. It is tensioned by the fact that the chain is short and when you by time the thing it comes with the gears for the cam and crank and put them on at the same time.

remember the 305 and 350 and how they were set up? its the same with the 4.3.
 
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