[_ Old Earth _] Evolution

[cupid dave]

...what ever the son is so the father.

In the correct way of understanding the idea, you are correct.
The father and the son are one and the same, as far as man can tell.

That the formation of Truth in one's mind the Reality that it represents is the same thing.
The image men form of Reality is called Truth.

Men are not privy to a direct contact with Reality, but must use the seven senses to detect and inform them about the Facts of the external world, from which they can and ought construct a model that corresponds one-to-one with Reality.
The early church people understood this, perhaps intuitively, because it came to pass that the new name for God was Trinity, i.e.; Truth and Reality are one and the same to men.


12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name, (i.e.; Trinity since 325AD).

 

[cupid dave]

in support of that stance I offer this line of reason:

Hi AB517,....

I agree to a point that Jesus did not use the Bible literally in the way church people mean, since in ALL things he spoke in parables or analogy.
He was essentially explaining scripture by these parables, inferring that the actually scripture had meaning that transcended the literal context.


Matthew 13:34
All these things spake Jesus unto the multitude in parables; and without a parable spake he not unto them:

In fact, Jesus NEVER spake to the people without using these analogies.

 

[Barbarian]

We both agree life is a miracle of God. What confuses me is whats wrong with God directly creating life?

In Genesis, He says that the Earth and waters brought forth life. Who am I to argue with Him?

It seems to me that's just what happened. But your position is nature produced life?

According to His will.

Isn't nature undirected, unguided, random?

So is a hammer, unless there's a Carpenter weilding it. ;)

Comparatively, concrete is chemically simple, inanimate, whereas life is chemically complex animate, sentient,and contains information,

Concrete is chemically complex. And of course, not all life is animate, and little of it is sentient. And yes, all of creation contains information.

Life, in the biological sense, is chemistry. The life we have, that differentiates us from other living things, is given directly by God.

What I'm getting at is if nature can produce life isn't that naturalism?

If so, God is a naturalist.

 

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