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Faith...

Edward

Edward

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Do you think it's possible to have too much faith in God?

Now before you answer, think on it for a moment. We all know that faith in God is good and we even desire a greater faith. but is there a point that rolls over into insanity of sorts?

I don't really have anything in mind with this nor am I trying to make any point. more of a curiosity about how other brothers and sisters feel and think about faith.

Have a blessed day.
 
No.You can never have too much faith in God.But Satan would like to sit down and have coffee with you and tell you that you can have too much faith in Him.
 
Edward said:
Do you think it's possible to have too much faith in God?

Now before you answer, think on it for a moment. We all know that faith in God is good and we even desire a greater faith. but is there a point that rolls over into insanity of sorts?

I don't really have anything in mind with this nor am I trying to make any point. more of a curiosity about how other brothers and sisters feel and think about faith.

Have a blessed day.
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Can you give an example how too much faith could be bad ?
 
I think that when these prosperity people get going, it looks like they have super faith. At least that is how it seems to me that it's what they want you to think. "Oh wow, look what they have, they must have more faith than I have.
 
Chopper said:
I think that when these prosperity people get going, it looks like they have super faith. At least that is how it seems to me that it's what they want you to think. "Oh wow, look what they have, they must have more faith than I have.
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Exactly. A lot of these same prosperity preachers are also healing preachers and if you don't get healed, then they say, oh well you didn't have enough faith...but that's wrong! Scripture says, these signs follow those who believe, and that would be the preacher or Christian who is trying to heal the other (or God through them of course).
 
Edward said:
Exactly. A lot of these same prosperity preachers are also healing preachers and if you don't get healed, then they say, oh well you didn't have enough faith...but that's wrong! Scripture says, these signs follow those who believe, and that would be the preacher or Christian who is trying to heal the other (or God through them of course).
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Oh yes old Buddy! So many people get depressed when they don't get healed or they give large amounts of cash to their so called "ministry" and don't get what the preacher boasted that they'd get. There are real Christians that our Lord uses to heal sick folk but these folk don't let the right hand know what the left hand is doing..Someday, there will be a great apostasy, or religious rebellion, these people who leave the faith are the ones that don't get what the prosperity preachers said they'd get, IMO.
 
Chopper said:
Oh yes old Buddy! So many people get depressed when they don't get healed or they give large amounts of cash to their so called "ministry" and don't get what the preacher boasted that they'd get. There are real Christians that our Lord uses to heal sick folk but these folk don't let the right hand know what the left hand is doing..Someday, there will be a great apostasy, or religious rebellion, these people who leave the faith are the ones that don't get what the prosperity preachers said they'd get, IMO.
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Yeppers. Faith by the healed ones is not required. I watched a healing vid of Todd White awhile back and he met 3 witches on the street. He received words of knowledge about them and told them and asked if he could pray for the ones healing...They let him, probably just so that they could mock him when it didn't happen...She was healed on the spot and left them shaken with the reality of God!

My own personal conjecture of why some do not get the healing, take it for what you will, could be true or not, but I think it's possible that...the healing might not come because it is sought after for the blessing and not for the glory of God? A wrong heart and intentions? Nothing to do with faith or the lack thereof. Maybe.
 
Edward said:
Yeppers. Faith by the healed ones is not required. I watched a healing vid of Todd White awhile back and he met 3 witches on the street. He received words of knowledge about them and told them and asked if he could pray for the ones healing...They let him, probably just so that they could mock him when it didn't happen...She was healed on the spot and left them shaken with the reality of God!

My own personal conjecture of why some do not get the healing, take it for what you will, could be true or not, but I think it's possible that...the healing might not come because it is sought after for the blessing and not for the glory of God? A wrong heart and intentions? Nothing to do with faith or the lack thereof. Maybe.
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Wow! God must be speaking thru you my friend because that is so true. I haven't heard that explanation for years. YES! "wrong intentions" by the so called healer, and the person being healed. I have heard it said about Oral Roberts, when he started out, he said, "I must not rob God of the Glory or mammon." Later on he said, "I'm guilty of both."
 
Chopper said:
Wow! God must be speaking thru you my friend because that is so true. I haven't heard that explanation for years. YES! "wrong intentions" by the so called healer, and the person being healed. I have heard it said about Oral Roberts, when he started out, he said, "I must not rob God of the Glory or mammon." Later on he said, "I'm guilty of both."
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Glory to god brother! It does make sense to me. Also, like with the witches (who didn't believe) God healed them because it would bring Him glory, be a blessing to His children that He loves, and at least plant a seed to nudge them towards the kingdom!
 
Edward said:
Do you think it's possible to have too much faith in God?

Now before you answer, think on it for a moment. We all know that faith in God is good and we even desire a greater faith. but is there a point that rolls over into insanity of sorts?

I don't really have anything in mind with this nor am I trying to make any point. more of a curiosity about how other brothers and sisters feel and think about faith.

Have a blessed day.
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Hey Brother Edward. I believe we will probably never approach the faith Jesus displayed when dying for us, even though many have died for the sake of the gospel according to Heb 11:38 (Of whom the world was not worthy).

Many use the scripture Mat 21:22, “And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive,” but fail to consider 1 John 5:14. “And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us.”

Next some consider the following scripture in James as the measuring stick of faith. They too err for James’s context is how men will know us by our fruits. Abraham believed God and it was imputed unto him for righteousness.

James 2:22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect? James 2:23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.

Heb 11:13 These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth.

I’m near certain no one asks for trials, and near as sure they immediately ask for deliverance. Does one even think of faith when doing so, or are they prepared beforehand to believe strong enough on the Lord to holler out in prayer “Lord save me” as Peter did in Mat 14:30? And then are they lacking faith when they immediately are not healed? I don’t believe so for we are given unto Jesus for His safekeeping (John 6:39) and workmanship (Eph 2:10).

Our faith is exercised when we can believe Romans 8:28. “Rom 8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.”

My thoughts.
 
Eugene said:
Hey Brother Edward. I believe we will probably never approach the faith Jesus displayed when dying for us, even though many have died for the sake of the gospel according to Heb 11:38 (Of whom the world was not worthy).

Many use the scripture Mat 21:22, “And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive,” but fail to consider 1 John 5:14. “And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us.”

Next some consider the following scripture in James as the measuring stick of faith. They too err for James’s context is how men will know us by our fruits. Abraham believed God and it was imputed unto him for righteousness.

James 2:22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect? James 2:23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.

Heb 11:13 These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth.

I’m near certain no one asks for trials, and near as sure they immediately ask for deliverance. Does one even think of faith when doing so, or are they prepared beforehand to believe strong enough on the Lord to holler out in prayer “Lord save me” as Peter did in Mat 14:30? And then are they lacking faith when they immediately are not healed? I don’t believe so for we are given unto Jesus for His safekeeping (John 6:39) and workmanship (Eph 2:10).

Our faith is exercised when we can believe Romans 8:28. “Rom 8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.”

My thoughts.
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I think you're right, we could never get as much faith as Jesus had.

I like the scripture from James. I like substituting the word action for the word works because the implication is clearer and not confusing. We are to take action...walk it out, not just be hearers of the Word. Faith without action is dead...walk the walk and not just talk the talk.

I asked for more faith once...I got a bunch of trials dumped on me. Oh, I got my more faith throughout it, but wow. We have to be sure what we ask for when we pray because we might just get it! :wink
 
Yes and that is why I have never liked the saying "What Would Jesus Do?".You could not do the same thing as Jesus would do.
 
Oh I don't know about that. maybe we could. Jesus said that all that he does, this we can do and more.

What we do and what Jesus does is a little different than the amount of faith that Jesus had. :)
 
Edward said:
Oh I don't know about that. maybe we could. Jesus said that all that he does, this we can do and more.

What we do and what Jesus does is a little different than the amount of faith that Jesus had. :)
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I don't think it is any different.We are comparing ourselves to Jesus?
 
Sure, why not? Certainly we are not God, but all that he does we can do, and we are in Him and he in us, we are to emulate Him and imitate His life, seek the mind of Christ...yes, these things we should do. We are of the body and Christ is the head.
 
Thus says the Lord:
“Cursed is the man who trusts in man
And makes flesh his strength,
Whose heart departs from the Lord.

6 For he shall be like a shrub in the desert,
And shall not see when good comes,
But shall inhabit the parched places in the wilderness,
In a salt land which is not inhabited.

7 “Blessed is the man who trusts in the Lord,
And whose hope is the Lord.

8 For he shall be like a tree planted by the waters,
Which spreads out its roots by the river,
And will not fear[b] when heat comes;
But its leaf will be green,
And will not be anxious in the year of drought,
Nor will cease from yielding fruit.

9 “The heart is deceitful above all things, Jeremiah 17:6-9 NKJV

God wants you and I 100% depending on Jesus as a child is dependent on their parents and no one else. Hebrews 10:38 NKJV says, "Now the[a] just shall live by faith; But if anyone draws back, My soul has no pleasure in him.”[b]
 
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