Bible Study Faith

[Corn Pop]

Faith, believing something can be done without doubt.

The woman who touched Christs cloak had full faith. Christ did not heal her, her own faith in him healed her.

And the dude who needed to wash himself twice, some critics say Christ cannot be all powerful God as he could not heal a man it took him two times, but it was not Christ, it was the mans own lack of faith in Christ that did not heal him.

Faith/Trust in God is everything.

God dont help no bludgers.

 

[JohnDB]

Dude who needed to wash twice?
Not familiar with that one.

 

[Corn Pop]

Dude who needed to wash twice?
Not familiar with that one.

The man whos faith was weak and Jesus had to touch his eyes a second time. Its called washing yourself clean, having full faith. Lol.

Ok I admit it, I got it wrong and tried to remember the bible stories off the back of my head and made an error and had to google it, but the point of the story stands firm, its all about faith in Christ.

Washed twice, Touched twice, close enough.

 

[for_his_glory]

Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

We all have different things that we pray for in our lives. Our prayers are usually for the salvation of someone, finances, health or whatever the need may be. When it all seems impossible to our fleshly eyes and understanding then we have to rely on the faith of Gods promises to turn every situation around for the witness of Gods word. We are a generation that wants it and wants it now, but by faith if we wait on Gods timing which is always perfect then the blessings will be much greater and the witness of the blessing will bring others unto salvation of Jesus Christ. When we rely on faith, it brings with it Gods approval or Gods favor. God will grant unto his children the desires of their hearts through his grace, but also you must have forgiveness in your heart for others that do you wrong.

Mark 11:24 Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them.
Mark 11:25 And when ye stand praying, forgive, if ye have aught against any: that your Father also which is in heaven may forgive you your trespasses.

 

[LovethroughDove]

As in the above post, stated in Hebrews. Evidence of things

There is evidence Everywhere of the truth of God. This is my faith. I have evidence, so it is not something I have to wish was there. It is tangible.

 

[JohnDB]

The man whos faith was weak and Jesus had to touch his eyes a second time. Its called washing yourself clean, having full faith. Lol.

Ok I admit it, I got it wrong and tried to remember the bible stories off the back of my head and made an error and had to google it, but the point of the story stands firm, its all about faith in Christ.

Washed twice, Touched twice, close enough.

Jesus was showboating... Our faith isn't necessary for God...just desired.
Nothing is impossible for God.

Our faith is not a catalyst for God's power when it comes to miracles. Faith has been rewarded with miracles... But it is not a catalyst. Huge difference.

 

[Edward]

Good topic and scriptures.

Let's toss this around a little, shall we?
Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen...

Substance? As in, substance...tangible?

Do you believe this? (I do) But...
I believe the implication is, a substance in the Kingdom (spiritual) realm.
When we ask something, in faith then a (spiritual substance) is created (?) or otherwise loosed, allowing the power of God to flow and manifest here in the natural?

This faith substance is tangible in the Kingdom (spiritual), and can be seen (in the Kingdom), so would display evidence of the person's faith, but on earth it is unseen.


Does that make sense?

 

[Edward]

Jesus was showboating... Our faith isn't necessary for God...just desired.
Nothing is impossible for God.

Our faith is not a catalyst for God's power when it comes to miracles. Faith has been rewarded with miracles... But it is not a catalyst. Huge difference.

Hmmm, I thought the same thing, but lately I'm not so sure of that Brother.

Of course faith would not be required for God to be able to do anything, for He is all powerful. But He may have designed it to make it so. God wants too see our faith.

It's all about faith. Faith is a key which unlocks the door to allow His power to manifest to us.
We are the body of Christ, a sort of conduit through which He does many things.

Or so it seems to me.

 

[JohnDB]

Hmmm, I thought the same thing, but lately I'm not so sure of that Brother.

Of course faith would not be required for God to be able to do anything, for He is all powerful. But He may have designed it to make it so. God wants too see our faith.

It's all about faith. Faith is a key which unlocks the door to allow His power to manifest to us.
We are the body of Christ, a sort of conduit through which He does many things.

Or so it seems to me.

When Peter (in Acts) made the beggar walk and jump the beggar never had faith. Miracles were used by prophets for signs to increase faith just like the beggar got after his miracle.

 

[Edward]

When Peter (in Acts) made the beggar walk and jump the beggar never had faith. Miracles were used by prophets for signs to increase faith just like the beggar got after his miracle.

Exactly right, Brother. But we also have

Mark 16:17-18
17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;

18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover./

Those who believe, in this case it was the apostles. In the case of the woman with the blood issue who touched Jesus's cloak, it was her's

 

[LovethroughDove]

This faith substance is tangible in the Kingdom (spiritual), and can be seen (in the Kingdom), so would display evidence of the person's faith, but on earth it is unseen.


Does that make sense?

Romans 1:20 For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities - his eternal power and divine nature - have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.

God's invisible qualities have been clearly seen. Does that make sense? So, What he has done and who he is.........is clearly seen, but they are veiled to those without faith.

 

[Douglas Summers]

Faith, believing something can be done without doubt.

The woman who touched Christs cloak had full faith. Christ did not heal her, her own faith in him healed her.

And the dude who needed to wash himself twice, some critics say Christ cannot be all powerful God as he could not heal a man it took him two times, but it was not Christ, it was the mans own lack of faith in Christ that did not heal him.

Faith/Trust in God is everything.

God dont help no bludgers.

Faith is believing who Christ is, not what He can do for you. Man must react to The witness of Christ, His testimony (the word), and that is faith in who He witnesses to be (Son of God / Son of man). Then as we grow in grace through Faith and walk closer to the Lord, Then He Himself will increase our Faith through the Spirit of the Born again believer. (Luke 17: 1-6) (1 Cor. 2:5) (1 Cor. 12:9).
The faith in the woman and others was not so much faith in the healing, but faith in who He was (The Son of David). At the time of the woman's healing, Christ was healing as the promised Messiah (Son of David) (103 Psalms). I believe that is why there is no healing in many denominations. They worship His works (not His Sacrifice) and have forgotten their first love. A man can not love God until that man can see himself for what he really is. Man's soul is so dark that it grieved God that He made man, and in fact, has decided to destroy man because every imagination in man's heart was to do evil CONTINUALLY! (Gen. 6: 5-7). This is the wrath that is coming, and that is what the believer is saved from, Gods Wrath.

The born again believer in Christ may ask for healing, but His attachment to the body of Christ as one body is so complete that there is no disappointment if He does not heal,........ our bond does not change.

 

[JohnDB]

Exactly right, Brother. But we also have

Mark 16:17-18
17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;

18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover./

Those who believe, in this case it was the apostles. In the case of the woman with the blood issue who touched Jesus's cloak, it was her's

The woman was rewarded for her faith. As she touched the fringes of his shawl she was fulfilling the messianic prophesy that was known of the healing in the Messiah's tassels.

On a prayer shawl there are 613 strings (one for each of the laws) that make the fringe. These are grouped into bundles so that there are five spaces for the five books of the Torah.

So when she reached out and grasped at Jesus' shawl she was saying that He was the Messiah... Something always rewarded by Jesus.

Then the Mark passages are "contested" but they still are not without merit.
They do agree with the actions of the Apostles (including Paul) of their actions.
But

Obviously the one who tries to perform miracles today must have faith...and a knowledge of God's will. Opportunities to display God's power are difficult and few.

So when I see one...it's kinda really special. And its usually never a public display like in the Bible stories. Not exactly sure why that is but if a guy on stage is offering miracles for a donation its just wrong on many levels.

And for the record...I don't touch snakes except with a hoe, shovel, or ammunition leaving a firearm.

 

[Edward]

The woman was rewarded for her faith...
So when I see one...it's kinda really special. And its usually never a public display like in the Bible stories. Not exactly sure why that is...

And for the record...I don't touch snakes except with a hoe, shovel, or ammunition leaving a firearm.

She was, as they say...walking the walk.

I've seen a few miracles and it's like you say, not public. I think it's because He wants to leave plenty of room for a faith-based relationship.

I'm with ya' on the snakes Brother. I don't like 'em and am wary of people who do, lol. I load my own snake loads for them. If they're headed the other way when I see 'em, I'll let 'em go, but if not...bang.

 

[Edward]

Romans 1:20 For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities - his eternal power and divine nature - have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.

God's invisible qualities have been clearly seen. Does that make sense? So, What he has done and who he is.........is clearly seen, but they are veiled to those without faith.

What you say makes sense. I'm not sure what it has to do with mans faith. Is mans faith a quality of God or His nature?

Is man's faith clearly seen in the Kingdom realm? It would seem so, because scripture refers to faith as a substance, and yet it is unseen on earth (natural realm).

Your faith has made you whole...I have not seen so great a faith...be it according to your faith...
I must conclude that faith is a tangible substance based on scripture. One that's (obviously?) seen only in the Kingdom realm, because we do not see it here in the natural...

This must be part of the live for the spirit/walk in the Spirit instruction that we are given? Perhaps a part of the...be ye doers of the Word and not just hearers.

This is very interesting.
Walk in faith, Sister.

 

[LovethroughDove]

and yet it is unseen on earth (natural realm).

because we do not see it here in the natural...

This must be part of the live for the spirit/walk in the Spirit instruction that we are given? Perhaps a part of the...be ye doers of the Word and not just hearers.

This is very interesting.
Walk in faith, Sister.

Hi Edward. Back in Hebrews it says, evidence of things not seen.

It's like Hebrews is saying circumstantial evidence. Literally, we don't have the body. (Jesus himself) But, everything else is evidence for us.

So, my faith is seen in the natural realm.....just not his body......but EVERYTHING else is there.

And, you are my Bro.

 

[LovethroughDove]

I should add: everything else is there to show Jesus was here. Also, creation shows the Father's handiwork.

 

[JohnDB]

Malachi 4 has the messianic passage about " healing in his wings" for those who respect God's name.

It was this prophecy that she believed in.

It makes a beautiful story of who is clean vx unclean.

 

[Edward]

Hi Edward. Back in Hebrews it says, evidence of things not seen.

It's like Hebrews is saying circumstantial evidence. Literally, we don't have the body. (Jesus himself) But, everything else is evidence for us.

So, my faith is seen in the natural realm.....just not his body......but EVERYTHING else is there.

And, you are my Bro.

Sister, I've been chewing on this and think you're right. Somehow, I don't think that the evidence is circumstantial though. The evidence, of a (faith) unseen...must be visible in the natural, as a fruit!?

And while we do not have the Lord's literal, physical body...We do have His literal Spirit!

Those who walk in the Spirit of the Lord will have the fruit of the spirit without doubt. It may or may not be visible to others on earth, depending on the condition of their heart?

Much like, before I was a believer, I could not see the handiwork of the Lord for what it was, but now that I believe...I can't even step outside onto the porch without seeing the Lord's fingerprints everywhere!

Thank you, Sister!