False Christ Alert/ Cult Warning

[Hidden In Him]

I recently received some proselytization for this cult. Haven't looked deep enough into who this false Christ is yet, but apparently you have to attend their online services in order to "hear his voice."

If anyone else has any information or has been contacted about this individual, please feel free to share.

 

[jasonc]

A username might help

 

[for_his_glory]

Could not find anything about Ryan Chen other than he is affiliated with Church of all Nations which sounds like a great church. Here is their website.

Church For All Nations - Our Church

Church For All Nations is a multicultural, dynamic growing group of believers located in Colorado Springs, CO.

www.churchforallnations.com

 

[Hidden In Him]

Could not find anything about Ryan Chen other than he is affiliated with Church of all Nations which sounds like a great church. Here is their website.

Church For All Nations - Our Church

Church For All Nations is a multicultural, dynamic growing group of believers located in Colorado Springs, CO.

www.churchforallnations.com

Very common name. The "church" this one is affiliated to is promoting a false Christ as "Jesus" now come in the flesh a second time.

 

[for_his_glory]

I recently received some proselytization for this cult. Haven't looked deep enough into who this false Christ is yet, but apparently you have to attend their online services in order to "hear his voice."

If anyone else has any information or has been contacted about this individual, please feel free to share.

What makes you think this is the occult?

 

[Hidden In Him]

What makes you think this is the occult?

For His Glory, have you watched the video at all?

And I used the word CULT, not occult.

 

[for_his_glory]

Very common name. The "church" this one is affiliated to is promoting a false Christ as "Jesus" now come in the flesh a second time.

I can't say they are promoting a false Christ, but the possibility of what he means by Jesus coming in the flesh a second time, being that of the false teaching of a pretrib Rapture.

 

[Hidden In Him]

I can't say they are promoting a false Christ, but the possibility of what he means by Jesus coming in the flesh a second time, being that of the false teaching of a pretrib Rapture.

The tenets of the video:

1. Jesus will return a second time in the flesh, NOT supernaturally like He eventually does in the clouds.
2. He will do so because he didn't give us enough words the first time to truly deliver us from sin.
3. He won't manifest any sort of supernatural gifts when He comes in the flesh the second time, because His words are much more powerful than mere signs and wonders.
4. These words WILL NOT BE IN THE BIBLE (22:17+).
5. Mankind can ONLY be saved by adhering to these words.
6. You too can "hear the voice of our Shepherd" (presumably the Lord Jesus Christ Himself, now come in the flesh) by attending his live sermon.

Now is this agreeable with your theology, or are you simply being argumentative without paying any attention to what the man is actually saying?

 

[for_his_glory]

For His Glory, have you watched the video at all?

And I used the word CULT, not occult.

Yes I watched the whole video. Can you please explain the difference between cult and occult

 

[for_his_glory]

I'm not going to argue about this so will bow out. But since none of us have ever heard of this person then why pick him out of all the many false preachers that are out there. Did you even go through that website I posted. I'm out.

 

[meerkat05]

Yes I watched the whole video. Can you please explain the difference between cult and occult

Occult is usually witchcraft and demonic covens black arts. Cults are usually a group of people who want you to follow them because they think they are god but both are sometimes inter-used words. Cult s like Jim Jones for example. They tell others they are Christian but aren't. Several types follow this cult standard.

 

[meerkat05]

I think this one used to be called morning star international. If this is the same one then it's a cult. I was able to find another one but it says it's catholic based not non denominational.

 

[for_his_glory]

Occult is usually witchcraft and demonic covens black arts. Cults are usually a group of people who want you to follow them because they think they are god but both are sometimes inter-used words. Cult s like Jim Jones for example. They tell others they are Christian but aren't. Several types follow this cult standard.

Thank you as I appreciate your answer and already knew that, but was asking this question wanting Hidden In Him to answer this.

 

[jasonc]

The tenets of the video:

1. Jesus will return a second time in the flesh, NOT supernaturally like He eventually does in the clouds.
2. He will do so because he didn't give us enough words the first time to truly deliver us from sin.
3. He won't manifest any sort of supernatural gifts when He comes in the flesh the second time, because His words are much more powerful than mere signs and wonders.
4. These words WILL NOT BE IN THE BIBLE (22:17+).
5. Mankind can ONLY be saved by adhering to these words.
6. You too can "hear the voice of our Shepherd" (presumably the Lord Jesus Christ Himself, now come in the flesh) by attending his live sermon.

Now is this agreeable with your theology, or are you simply being argumentative without paying any attention to what the man is actually saying?

I would say false prophet .

Accursed in that he adds and subtracts to the bible .

 

[for_his_glory]

After watching the video again he is promoting a false teaching as it confirms what I thought the first time I watched and did a little deeper research on this as where this teaching about Christ coming a second time in the flesh came from as being a man who calls himself Christ Ahnsahnghong from World Mission Society Church of God who believes that the word cloud means coming in the flesh. If we do not Spiritually discern what is being taught, like this video and hundreds like them, then we will fall into these cultic type teachings.

IMO, placing these type of videos in a Christian chat forum can become a stumbling block to those who are yet very young in the word.

 

[Free]

IMO, placing these type of videos in a Christian chat forum can become a stumbling block to those who are yet very young in the word.

Normally, yes. I suspect the reason Hidden In Him posted it here is that a number of people—we don’t know how many—were sent this video in private conversation. Since we can’t address it in those conversations, hopefully some will see it here and learn why it is false teaching.

 

[Hidden In Him]

Normally, yes. I suspect the reason @Hidden In Him posted it here is that a number of people—we don’t know how many—were sent this video in private conversation. Since we can’t address it in those conversations, hopefully some will see it here and learn why it is false teaching.

Yes. I was wondering just how much I could reveal, so I didn't answer Jason's question about the username. But it was just sort of a make-shift way of alerting anyone who might have received the video in private that it was dangerously heretical.

I agree that chatting over it certainly isn't beneficial, but it also might be good for those who didn't receive anything to see it anyway, because more people may be seeing it in the future by various means, and it has the makings of a cult that could gain some real traction down the road if no one exposes it.

 

[meerkat05]

Yes. I was wondering just how much I could reveal, so I didn't answer Jason's question about the username. But it was just sort of a make-shift way of alerting anyone who might have received the video in private that it was dangerously heretical.

I agree that chatting over it certainly isn't beneficial, but it also might be good for those who didn't receive anything to see it anyway, because more people may be seeing it in the future by various means, and it has the makings of a cult that could gain some real traction down the road if no one exposes it.

I haven't gotten one of those but now that you've mentioned it I will definitely keep a lookout for it. I'm glad you brought it up. It looks like something I would have clicked on. I wouldn't have done research on it otherwise.