false teachers among you,

[chessman]

so what do you consider a false teacher

A modern example is someone who teaches that there were no deceivers among the early eastern churches bringing in heresies.

But false-prophets also came among the people, as there will also be false-teachers among you who will secretly-bring-in heresies of destruction— even denying the Master having bought them, bringing swift destruction upon themselves.​

2 Peter 2:1 - https://www.biblegateway.com/passage?search=2 Peter 2:1&version=DLNT

 

[Truthfrees]

But false-prophets also came among the people, as there will also be false-teachers among you who will secretly-bring-in heresies of destruction— even denying the Master having bought them, bringing swift destruction upon themselves.2 Peter 2:1 - https://www.biblegateway.com/passage?search=2 Peter 2:1&version=DLNT

i find it interesting that scripture says "bring in heresies of destruction - denying the Master - bringing swift destruction upon themselves " - that sounds like people who pretend to know God but really hate God - or people who know the truth but purposely lie and decieve

i guess the encouraging part is that they bring swift destruction upon themselves

 

[chessman]

i guess the encouraging part is that they bring swift destruction upon themselves

To me, the last verses of the preceding ‘chapter’ is meant to encourage the church:

And we have the prophetic word as more-firm, to which you are doing well to be paying-attention as to a lamp shining in a dismal place, until which time the day dawns and the morning-star rises in your hearts, knowing this first— that no prophecy of Scripture comes from one’s own interpretation. For no prophecy was ever carried by the will of a human, but people being carried by the Holy Spirit spoke from God.​

2 Peter 1:19-21 - https://www.biblegateway.com/passage?search=2 Peter 1:19-21&version=DLNT

We have the firm, Holy Spirit inspired word (Scripture) carrying us (indeed even our interpretation) along.

 

[Truthfrees]

To me, the last verses of the preceding ‘chapter’ is meant to encourage the church:

And we have the prophetic word as more-firm, to which you are doing well to be paying-attention as to a lamp shining in a dismal place, until which time the day dawns and the morning-star rises in your hearts, knowing this first— that no prophecy of Scripture comes from one’s own interpretation. For no prophecy was ever carried by the will of a human, but people being carried by the Holy Spirit spoke from God.​

2 Peter 1:19-21 - https://www.biblegateway.com/passage?search=2 Peter 1:19-21&version=DLNT

We have the firm, Holy Spirit inspired word (Scripture) carrying us (indeed even our interpretation) along.

agreed

 

[Randy]

2timothy 2
Their teaching will spread like gangrene. Among them are Hymenaeus and Philetus, 18who have departed from the truth. They say that the resurrection has already taken place, and they destroy the faith of some
Acts 15
Certain people came down from Judea to Antioch and were teaching the believers: “Unless you are circumcised, according to the custom taught by Moses, you cannot be saved.”
1 John 2
Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist—denying the Father and the Son. 23 No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also

 

[Oseas]

good points - i agree with what you said - i see the same thing

the bible speaks of false teachers and doctrines of demons - so obviously there is such a thing

what i see thrown around so freely among christians is MOSTLY doctrinal disputes

as far as the false doctrines i see them for sure - and when i talk to people about their false doctrines they don't see them because they are indoctrinated - this is also the reason why i didn't see the false doctrines i was indoctrinated with - of all the false doctrines i was set free from it was God and scripture and kind christians talking to me that helped me get free - calling me a cult or deceived or espousing doctrines of demons didn't help me - i only heard the hate and anger being shot at me

so you mention speaking in tongues - some groups think it is false teaching to say it passed away - some say it is false teaching to say it is for today - i asked God what He said and as a result of what God told me i speak in tongues - yet the debate continues - both sides calling the other false - so how do we deal with this? - someone is teaching truth and someone is teaching false -

i guess this is why i see everything as doctrinal differences - and some doctrines are false and some are correct - and we debate them - sometimes accusing each other

but when the bible warns of false teachers is this the kinds of issues the bible is talking about?

false teacher? - i would say jim jones - if you watch videos of him he doesn't give glory to Jesus - he gives glory to the religions of the world - what is that? - so every christian would agree jim jones and his teachings are false if they heard him speak

but when baptists and pentecostals and catholics and calvinists call each other false what do we do with that? - imo we have to stop calling each other false and start discussing one specific doctrine at a time - praying our way through it - hoping to find the truth

I see that you are speaking about iniquites among God's people what is not any new thing, for the tares have been sowed in the Churches by the Devil since the beginning and many people were deceived by corrupt preachers of the Word of God. Paul Apostle left very clear, saying: 2Cor.11:13-15

13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers (MINISTERS OF DEVIL) also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
The whole Earth has been infested of this caste of Ministers, whose Ministries are reproved by the Word of God (God is a title, the Word is God, yea, the Word is God) . Once the END of them shall be according to their works, certainly they will be cast down into the lake of fire.

2 Timothy 3 King James Version (KJV)

1 This know also, that in the LAST DAYS perilous times shall come.
2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; 5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

1 Timothy 4 King James Version (KJV)

1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;

JESUS warned: Matthew 24 King James Version (KJV)

3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.

10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another. (PROLEFERATION OF DENOMINATIONS AND FALSE EVANGELICAL MOVEMENTS GOSPEL)
11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

22 And except those days (the days in which we are living) should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. (Yes, there are a lot dead Churches, whose leaders are spiritually dead, these Churches are guided by angels that say are alive, but are dead, like the angel of the Church of Sardis. Rev.3:1 - These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead.

To the angel of Laodiceans, JESUS said to him as is written in Revelation 3:v.17:
17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:

An blind angel? JESUS warned: Can the blind lead the blind? shall they not both fall into the ditch? (Luke 6:v.39)

About the Scriptures written above, all of us must considered be warned. So, let us be careful.

 

[Truthfrees]

I see that you are speaking about iniquites among God's people what is not any new thing, for the tares have been sowed in the Churches by the Devil since the beginning and many people were deceived by corrupt preachers of the Word of God. Paul Apostle left very clear, saying: 2Cor.11:13-15

13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers (MINISTERS OF DEVIL) also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
The whole Earth has been infested of this caste of Ministers, whose Ministries are reproved by the Word of God (God is a title, the Word is God, yea, the Word is God) . Once the END of them shall be according to their works, certainly they will be cast down into the lake of fire.

2 Timothy 3 King James Version (KJV)

1 This know also, that in the LAST DAYS perilous times shall come.
2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; 5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

1 Timothy 4 King James Version (KJV)

1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;

JESUS warned: Matthew 24 King James Version (KJV)

3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.

10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another. (PROLEFERATION OF DENOMINATIONS AND FALSE EVANGELICAL MOVEMENTS GOSPEL)
11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

22 And except those days (the days in which we are living) should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. (Yes, there are a lot dead Churches, whose leaders are spiritually dead, these Churches are guided by angels that say are alive, but are dead, like the angel of the Church of Sardis. Rev.3:1 - These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead.

To the angel of Laodiceans, JESUS said to him as is written in Revelation 3:v.17:
17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:

An blind angel? JESUS warned: Can the blind lead the blind? shall they not both fall into the ditch? (Luke 6:v.39)

About the Scriptures written above, all of us must considered be warned. So, let us be careful.

great scriptures - and it seems the common point of them is they don't love God and their fellow man - they don't respect and obey God - they don't serve others - they serve themselves - wanting to put others down and elevate themselves

 

[for_his_glory]

It all comes down to learning how to Spiritually discern that of what others are trying to teach you. There are only two spirits that operate as one is truth and the other error. Apart from the Holy Spirit man/woman can teach us nothing.

1 John 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. 2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: 3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. 4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world. 5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them. 6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.

1 John 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him. 28 And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming. 29 If ye know that he is righteous, ye know that every one that doeth righteousness is born of him.

 

[ezra]

please delete close this thread....!!! i should have known better to start the post

 

[Truthfrees]

It all comes down to learning how to Spiritually discern that of what others are trying to teach you. There are only two spirits that operate as one is truth and the other error. Apart from the Holy Spirit man/woman can teach us nothing.

1 John 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. 2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: 3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. 4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world. 5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them. 6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.

1 John 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him. 28 And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming. 29 If ye know that he is righteous, ye know that every one that doeth righteousness is born of him.

amen - great points

 

[Truthfrees]

please delete close this thread....!!! i should have known better to start the post

closed at op request