Food and the Dying Patient

[Lewis]

Food and the Dying Patient
http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/...atient/?_php=true&_type=blogs&ref=health&_r=0

August 21, 2014

 

[Kathi]

The patient needs a Advance Directive in place is there is not one.

 

[reba]

The cry to off the old folks is coming..

 

[Kathi]

The cry to off the old folks is coming..

Run of our lives......

 

[AirDancer]

The cry to off the old folks is coming..

It's already here, that cry. In future days, we'll just hear that cry gaining in strength and numbers.

 

[Kathi]

Genocide

 

[AirDancer]

Yup.......

 

[Kathi]

Yup.......

That is what they did to the Jews in the holocaust.

 

[jasonc]

That is what they did to the Jews in the holocaust.

no voluntary euthanasia which im against shouldn't be considered the same as the shoah.

 

[Kathi]

no voluntary euthanasia which im against shouldn't be considered the same as the shoah.

The holocaust certainly was not voluntary.

 

[jasonc]

The holocaust certainly was not voluntary.

yes but the laws currently in Oregon, as that is the one I have read up one the most. is that patient can make the choice to have the doctor end his life or not to have med and food given or dnr.

personally I believe I had cancer and it came back and im over the age I see that its time, I should have the right to say. im going to die and that is it. I know people who are saved and have done it.one said it was too much to go through chemo and said if this sickness is the same as the cancer I came back from, then I will die. she died two weeks later.

 

[Kathi]

yes but the laws currently in Oregon, as that is the one I have read up one the most. is that patient can make the choice to have the doctor end his life or not to have med and food given or dnr.

personally I believe I had cancer and it came back and im over the age I see that its time, I should have the right to say. im going to die and that is it. I know people who are saved and have done it.one said it was too much to go through chemo and said if this sickness is the same as the cancer I came back from, then I will die. she died two weeks later.

Choosing euthanasia and forced genocide are two different things.

 

[Christ_empowered]

Euthanasia scares me. Its like, OK...I can see voluntarily forgoing further medical care for some problems, since medicine really isn't all that evolved and there's lots of pain involved in many treatments. OK. That's what hospice care, palliative care, is for.

But..look at Belgium. They make it legal for mental patients to end their lives with medical assistance. That's what I'd call a "culture of death." Where does it stop?

 

[Obadiah]

Somehow I didn't read this article and see the subject of forced euthanasia at all. I saw it as some ideas on what is actually the best way to care for a dying patient so that the patient is as comfortable and content as possible.

 

[Obadiah]

Euthanasia scares me. Its like, OK...I can see voluntarily forgoing further medical care for some problems, since medicine really isn't all that evolved and there's lots of pain involved in many treatments. OK. That's what hospice care, palliative care, is for.

But..look at Belgium. They make it legal for mental patients to end their lives with medical assistance. That's what I'd call a "culture of death." Where does it stop?

That is a scary idea. How can they know it's not just the patient's mental condition that is making him want to choose death???

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

Movies are made of this stuff.
Horror movies.
It hits really close to home.

 

[Kathi]

Soylent Green.

 

[Gary]

It's already here, that cry. In future days, we'll just hear that cry gaining in strength and numbers.

Yes it is, but it's not just the senior citizens that are targeted. This is going on today and has been for decades.

I'd like to elaborate but I know how you guys are about conspiracy theories.
.

 

[Kathi]

Yes it is, but it's not just the senior citizens that are targeted. This is going on today and has been for decades.

I'd like to elaborate but I know how you guys are about conspiracy theories.
.

Hmmm.....you are tickling my curiosity senses.

 

[jasonc]

I would say that euthanasia is coerced genocide in some cases.