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They believe i am not in prison, but if i have a specific area im allowed to excercise in and exceding that radius is an offence, and i must stay in my unit at all times and cannot visit or have visitors, and leave to get my chow and return to my unit, or work then return to my unit. And if i decided to go out and peacefully protest the guard will arrest me and i will be punished and recieve
a penalty for breaking my conditions. I mean im not really currently being oppressed and imprisoned right?. Its all in the name of safety and securty of course. Still wondering what i done wrong to lose my privelleges. I think i still have the right to remain silent.
 
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I guess you have heard about people becoming magnetic. Graphene oxide can have that affect if i understand.

Here is a study on 30 vaccinated. 29 magnetic. https://www.efvv.eu/news/study-on-the-electromagnetism-of-vaccinated-persons-in-luxembourg
Conspiracy-theory. Is it a coincidence that one of the members of this "European Forum for Vaccine Vigilance" is Andrew Wakefield:

Andrew Jeremy Wakefield (born 1956) is a British former physician and academic who was struck off the medical register due to his involvement in the Lancet MMR autism fraud, a 1998 study that falsely claimed a link between the measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR) vaccine and autism.
 

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Lie.

Guarantee it. Someone filmed a scene of authorities tackling people for some reason having nothing to do with the vaccine and then lied that the video shows people being forced to take the vaccine.

What nonsense.
Yes i read that. Deleted. Not that it won´t be happening soon with military on the streets though.
 

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Conspiracy-theory. Is it a coincidence that one of the members of this "European Forum for Vaccine Vigilance" is Andrew Wakefield:

Andrew Jeremy Wakefield (born 1956) is a British former physician and academic who was struck off the medical register due to his involvement in the Lancet MMR autism fraud, a 1998 study that falsely claimed a link between the measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR) vaccine and autism.
Whatever he did it´s nothing compared to big pharmas criminal records though.
 

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Yes i read that. Deleted. Not that it won´t be happening soon with military on the streets though.
You are speculating, of course. There is no evidence that would lead a reasonable person to believe such garbage.
 

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Geert van Den Bossche? Did you research this guy?

I did - the results are not pretty. Want the deets?
Trusting the "fact checkers" are we? The same facebook use who are funded by big pharma?
 

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You are speculating, of course. There is no evidence that would lead a reasonable person to believe such garbage.
I am quite sure. Did you miss that Biden wants mandatory injections for all Americans? Now you have guns but many don´t.
 

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Does the Government, regarding any Fascist/Socialist/Marxist takeover, always take the guns away from the society, and use the News Media to create Crisis after Crisis to control the sheep?
A.) Every single time.
Like in every stable, prosperous nations in Western Europe? The citizens of these countries have no guns and are doing quite well, thank you very much.

Not to mention less "lead poisoning" than in gun-happy USA.
 

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I am quite sure. Did you miss that Biden wants mandatory injections for alla Americans? Now you have guns but many don´t.
The fact that you, or I for that matter are "sure" of something has no connection whatsoever to reality. Some people are sure the world is flat.

Now then, what exactly did Mr. Biden say?
 

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Trusting the "fact checkers" are we? The same facebook use who are funded by big pharma?
All right then, let's discuss vested interests in relation to the redoubtable Dr. van der Bossche:

On March 6, 2021, a Belgian veterinarian named Geert Vanden Bossche published an open letter “to all authorities, scientists and experts around the world” asserting that, in his expert analysis, the current global COVID-19 vaccination program will “wipe out large parts of our human population.” The way to avoid this purported calamity, Vanden Bossche asserts, is for scientists to pay more attention to his own invention — a “universal vaccine” that uses the body’s innate immune system to kill SARS-CoV-2.

Perhaps no more tired a trope exists in the world of faux cures than the “I have found a problem that no other scientist in the world has thought of and only my untested and unproven cure can stop it” gambit. Vanden Bossche has been able to avoid allegations of peddling such a cure — at least in the credulous anti-vaccine community — because his resume legitimately includes stints at companies or initiatives involved in vaccine development, including The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. Since 2014, however, he has been trying (apparently unsuccessfully) to develop his so-called universal vaccine. A company claiming to develop such a product is currently registered to an address identified on Yelp as his veterinary practice.
 

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All right then, let's discuss vested interests in relation to the redoubtable Dr. van der Bossche:

On March 6, 2021, a Belgian veterinarian named Geert Vanden Bossche published an open letter “to all authorities, scientists and experts around the world” asserting that, in his expert analysis, the current global COVID-19 vaccination program will “wipe out large parts of our human population.” The way to avoid this purported calamity, Vanden Bossche asserts, is for scientists to pay more attention to his own invention — a “universal vaccine” that uses the body’s innate immune system to kill SARS-CoV-2.

Perhaps no more tired a trope exists in the world of faux cures than the “I have found a problem that no other scientist in the world has thought of and only my untested and unproven cure can stop it” gambit. Vanden Bossche has been able to avoid allegations of peddling such a cure — at least in the credulous anti-vaccine community — because his resume legitimately includes stints at companies or initiatives involved in vaccine development, including The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. Since 2014, however, he has been trying (apparently unsuccessfully) to develop his so-called universal vaccine. A company claiming to develop such a product is currently registered to an address identified on Yelp as his veterinary practice.
I have no idea but Snopes as "fact checkers"? You have a link to this "vaccine" they claim he pushed? All i have seen is that he advice against vaccination during a pandemic.
 
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Ok. What is wrong with vaccine mandates? Remember, certain vaccines are already required for children (i.e. to go to school).

Here is the problem with the anti-vaxxer stance on this: you guys write stirring appeals to principles like freedom. Fine, very appealing. But we live in a real world. And in a real world, we need to balance individual freedom with the public good.

And we do this all the time - you do not have the freedom to get drunk and drive a car. Nor should you.
 

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Ok. What is wrong with vaccine mandates? Remember, certain vaccines are already required for children (i.e. to go to school).

Here is the problem with the anti-vaxxer stance on this: you guys write stirring appeals to principles like freedom. Fine, very appealing. But we live in a real world. And in a real world, we need to balance individual freedom with the public good.

And we do this all the time - you do not have the freedom to get drunk and drive a car. Nor should you.
Because it is fascism when governments have so much power over people. If governments can inject you with vaccines what is next? Injecting poison in those who can´t work and pay taxes? It´s for the greater good. A little different than drunk driving. You are free to hide out in the forrest, wear as many masks as you like etc so no need for the rest of us to abandon our human rights.
 
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Mass vaccination during a Coronavirus pandemic is a really bad idea. The vaccinated are gain of function labs developing a vaccine resistant variant Robert Malone and Vanden Bossche says. And the vaxx induced antibodies only protect against one variant + they out compete your natural ones that protect against all variants. So the vaccinated may depend on booster after booster. Sounds like an evil plan to make alot of money while depopulating earth.
 

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Because it is fascism when governments have so much power over people. If governments can inject you with vaccines what is next? Injecting poison in those who can´t work and pay taxes? It´s for the greater good. A little different than drunk driving. You are free to hide out in the forrest, wear as many masks as you like etc so no need for the rest of us to abandon our human rights.
The problem is that your whole argument rests on what is fundamentally an unrealistic view of the world.

Yes, in an idealized world, the government would not exert any power over people.

But people do dumb things - like refusing to get vaccinated against an incredibly contagious disease that can kill and wreak all sorts of other damage. And when they do those dumb things, other people suffer.

So, sometimes the government needs to exert "power" in order to protect their citizens. Are you "free" to exploit children by using them to create pornography? Of course not! Your "rights" are not without limit.
 

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And the vaxx induced antibodies only protect against one variant
I believe this is a false statement - please support it. It seems obvious that the vaccine does provide at least some protection against variants. For example, the delta variant did not even exist when the vaccines were developed. And yet it does provide pretty good protection.
 
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