Cygnus
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That's my whole point.
Problem being..you presented it as if it was my point...what I believe.
The Bible most certainly does NOT say that God made them incapable.
That WOULD mean that God causes man to sin and then punishes them for sinning.
That would make God a very big jerk. I don't think that's accurate.
What you are saying above is that if you fell in to a hole you were incabable of getting out of..it's Gods fault? Seriously?
That idea is absurd! But that seems to be the strain of pop Calvinism I see bandied about in many Christian forums.
They tell me that God is completely sovereign and man has no free will to choose anything. (Like repenting and seeking God)
...there is none understanding; there is none seeking after God. Romans 3:11 ...you were saying something about seeking?
They insist that a mankind is totally depraved and can do nothing good. (And even if he does something good, it's not really good.)
They assure me that God picks a few people (apparently at random) and reprograms them to do good and to love him. (The few who are saved from damnation have no part in the process, they just do as they are programmed to do.)
I am assured that God throws the rest of the un-re-programmed (unregenerate) people into hell and where He "righteously" burns them for all eternity because they sinned just like He forced them to do and they deserve it.
(If this "god" were in a movie, Gary Busey would play him.)
You don't realize just how far mankind fell. Do you?
[/quote][/QUOTE]Does THAT sound to you like the God of the Bible who so loved the world that He gave His only begotten son to be horribly brutalized and murdered in the most hideous manner possible so that all mankind could be freed from the grave and the gates of paradise be flung open to whoever would believe?You never did tell me why some don't believe.
But, back to the point. I now have to believe that you think mankind doesn't deserve justice. That everyone gets a get out of jail free card if they were lucky enough to hear a good preacher....please correct me if I am wrong.
Doesn't sound like the God of the Bible to me either.
The God I discern in scripture would do, has done and continues to do everything possible to make eternal life to anyone who will receive it because He loves mankind and wants intimate communion with all of us.
iakov the fool
It sounds like you wern't dead in your sins an trespasses...and had the ability to choose Jesus. Good for you.