Fundraiser and the church...

[paisley]

Whatever my son does whether it is good or bad, he is carrying my name with him, and his actions will reflect on me. If he misbehaves, I am held responsible because I am the one in charge of teaching him how to behave. If he acts in an honorable manner, I get credit for that as well. He does not have to wear a sign around his neck saying "my mom taught me XYZ and my mom is Mrs. __" He does not have to ever mention my name but it does not change the fact that he can not disconnect himself from me, and I can not disconnect myself from him. The same is true with Christians. Even outside the church, we are carrying God's name, but when we walk up to a stranger's house, ring their door bell and let them know specifically that we are with a church, we are connecting ourselves with God's name. Perhaps this is the problem. People have become too casual in their association with God that they don't fully realize that everything we say or do reflects back on our God. Being a Christian carries all the marvelous glories and promises in the Bible, but it also carries a huge responsibility that we need to take very seriously. Let the youth have fun events, but lets guard God's name in the process.

 

[Kefka]

So if your son were to walk into a room and stab someone to death, it would be your fault? I don't think so. You would of course be liable for the legal charges, because your son is not an adult, but it is still his fault. Just because we are sons and daughters of God, does not mean that everything we do represents him. Every bite of food that I take is not "in the name of God." The name of God is perfect, for example I could not sin in the name of God... only in spite of the name of God. Tell me, how could the youth possibly do anything like go to a conference, or to a concert without fundraising?

 

[Blazin Bones]

Okay, this spat is over. If you can not ask questions without getting riled up or taking them personally, than please refrain from posting. No one's gone too far yet, but I don't want to see it happen either.

 

[Kefka]

I apologise if it seems that way Tim, but I can assure you that I, personally am not getting "riled up." I can't speak for paisley, but I wasn't getting the sense that we were arguing but discussing. Either way, I don't think I can put my views any clearer anyhow.

Thanks for the debate paisley.

 

[paisley]

Oh, I was not feeling riled or wanting to rile Kefka either. I was interested in what he had to say, but I wanted him to think about the subject from another perspective because I do feel it is important. Moreover, I think Kefka is a brother in Christ so I would not want to make him feel belittled in anyway. Nevertheless. it is possible others have reported this or has caused someone else to feel hurt so I will honor your request, Timothy, and end the discussion, and I thank you too Kefka for the debate because it made me think more deeply as well. Have a great day EVERYONE!!!!

 

[Blazin Bones]

Thank you both for your replies. I did not say the conversation needed to end, just the tone of which this discussion was headed. With all the fires around this board, I'd much rather err on the side of caution to keep one from strating.

 

[Kefka]

No problem! I understand completely, unfortunately I've been in the midst of some of those fires and I think I may have caused one or two.