Get Out Of Our Lives

[SputnikBoy]

No wonder Muslims think they are the 'infidel'. They are more likely angered by the hypocrisy towards God they see then the fact that they consider them 'terrorists'.

...Yes, which is why I wonder why we use this as an excuse for the idolatrous practitioners of Islam, the TRUE terrorists. How can you blame this country for the ridiculous sake of humanity's own suffering?! Don't you know that Allah, the god of the Muslims, is the Devil Himself? Give us all a break from your OWN hypocrisy, please.

God is not to be trifled with in this way. I surely do want you to take this as seriously as it sounds like you take yourself.

As for my somewhat angry reply...I forgive you, but turn to Him and ask Him to do the same.

When a country turns its back on God and acts like a hypocrite, God will turn its back on them. Has He done this with America? I think in these last days...He has. God is pulling His protective power away from all the world as Revelation and Matthew 24 predits will happen.

As for the rest of my post...I'm merely pointing out that America is hypocritical when it comes to religion and it speaks out of both sides of it's mouth. For a religion like Islam to look at America and see this hypocrisy is foreign and unheard of to them. I'm not defending terrorism in any way, nor am I praising Islam. I'm merely pointing out the mindset of how the world may look at America and why America's 'faith' is offensive to the rest of the world who actually take their faith seriously.

Why should I turn to God for forgiveness? I haven't done anything wrong.

Perhaps you should ask God to forgive your impetuous, self-righteousness...

Who knows why, but Ajax totally missed your point guibox. Don't worry about it ...the rest of us got it and we agree.

 

[cj]

Soma, what happens in your life if you quit praying and reading your Bible? Do you not find that things get more chaotic? In my experience, if I stray from God, things start going askew in my life. What the article is saying is that we, as a nation, have strayed from God. Because of that, we are not necessarily being punished, but we are reaping what we sowed. God doesn't bless those who don't bless Him. We've rejected God, put Him on the back burner, said we can do things without Him, and this is the result of our choices.

Think of the number of times that the nation of Israel strayed in the Old Testament. Every time they did, they were defeated by someone else, or some other problem began. They rejected God, and as a result, they lost His protection - His blessing.

The same has happened here in the US. We're not necessarily God's holy nation, but He has blessed us immensely. Now that we are rejecting Him, we can expect our blessings to cease. That's just the way it is.

It's not about sucking up, it's about blessing God through obedience, which is something the United States is not doing.

Following your train of thought, one might say that Jesus, Paul, John, and Peter, as well as many other god-fearing men who ended up in terrible circumstances all "strayed" from God, right?

You really think that "reading the bible and praying" and whatever else you want to add, will mean we all live a "blessed" life?

CLY, be sure of this, the Christian life is one of hills and valleys; each carefully placed according to God's economy for the accomplishing of His desire.

Can we help God,... sure. But there is no guarantee of going through life without a problem.

Fact is, growth in God takes place in the valley.

In love,
cj

 

[guibox]

Following your train of thought, one might say that Jesus, Paul, John, and Peter, as well as many other god-fearing men who ended up in terrible circumstances all "strayed" from God, right?

You really think that "reading the bible and praying" and whatever else you want to add, will mean we all live a "blessed" life?
CLY, be sure of this, the Christian life is one of hills and valleys; each carefully placed according to God's economy for the accomplishing of His desire.
Can we help God,... sure. But there is no guarantee of going through life without a problem.
Fact is, growth in God takes place in the valley.

In love,
cj

Yeah, but CJ, I think God deals with people as a nation differently then as a person. The Jews as a nation missed out on the gospel message, but that doesn't mean that they don't have a chance individually. God allowed horrible things to the Israelites as a nation due to their rebellion but He blessed Daniel and his friends at the same time.

How God deals with straying Americans is different then how He deals with straying America. We are not talking about personal relationships, but organizations.

 

[Ajax 777]

Was Abraham one man? Yes.
Was Abel one man? Yes, and Cain slew him because of envy.
Was Jacob one man? Yes, and he triumphed over Esau's birthright because he loved what was right.
Was David one man? Yes, and he was more than just a conqueror. He was a just conqueror, who sinned, and God dealt with him. God's punishment is just.
Was Moses one man? Yes.
Was Noah one man? Yes.
Was Elijah one man? Yes.
Was Jonah one man? Yes, and look at his faith, instead of his bad example.
Was John the Baptist one man? Yes, and look at what the Lord revealed concerning him.
Was Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior, and Good Shepherd, one man? Yes.

Blame this on organizations if you wish, "guibox".....but I for one think that is just a destructive cop-out.

I'm not saying you were wrong....I'm saying we were both RIGHT.

But you do have yourself a pleasant day.

 

[postprayers]

If you don't believe in freedom of choice (as some of our OSAS folks do) then the article could be considered lame. "What kind of a God just abandons us when He wants to save us?" Technically, all those folks who believe in predestination and OSAS shouldn't agree with Graham's daughter.


However, we see that in Revelation, the angels unleash the 'winds of strife' from the four corners of the earth.' In other words, the only thing really keeping this world going is the protection of God.

When we decide to turn our back on God and tell Him that we don't want Him in our lives, He respects our freedom of choice to do so and walks away. When we dabble with the occult or decide to put ourselves on Satan's ground, giving him a foothold, God allows him to work iniquity.

When we aren't holding on to God's hand and allowing Him to be a part of our lives, bad things do happen. We are not safe in our dying, decaying world without the protection of our mighty Creator. It is only because of His protecting power that the world doesn't collapse in on itself.

Finally, God will ultimately remove that protection from the earth in the last days and reserve only for those who hold close to Him. Then all hell will break loose.

I see stuff like this all the time being a network admin. Sometime I think stuff like this about God is thought up just to upset people? Also as far as offending people go? What about people that have different beliefs about God. Should I forward an email about being baptist if I know my friend is Jewish?