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Alabaster
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Why would anyone even think about considering a mythical tale about the Annunaki?
There is nothing biblical about it.
There is nothing biblical about it.
Pard
Member
Annuwho?
Giants are in the Bible, right? David killed one. I think in Genesis somewhere there is a passage about Nephilims, and they are giants. Angels knocking up humans begets giants... Genesis 6 talks in some about nephilims. They were bad dudes who did great evil because they were have demonic. Anyways, that the old Jewish tales for you, dunno if that is all very Biblical, but the Jews have some wild stories about giants.
Giants are in the Bible, right? David killed one. I think in Genesis somewhere there is a passage about Nephilims, and they are giants. Angels knocking up humans begets giants... Genesis 6 talks in some about nephilims. They were bad dudes who did great evil because they were have demonic. Anyways, that the old Jewish tales for you, dunno if that is all very Biblical, but the Jews have some wild stories about giants.
Oats
Member
i've heard better explanations to the contrary, although i agree with you...
Oats
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Theofilus
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Wikipedia said:
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Do you really have to ask what the Bible says about "Sumerian, Akkadian, Assyrian and Babylonian deities"? They are false gods (i.e. demons in disguise), and we should have nothing to do with them.
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Elijah674
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Yet, Adam was NO Fluke! It took 'a spell' (time) for sin to knock off his created (very good) perfection! (Sure, he lacked MATURE 'Maturity..' safe to save wise, (Nah. 1:9) but his created perfection was not below ANY that had gone down hill from his sin on! Even check out the pre/flood age of ones against the ones that were allowed flesh/food.
Take a guess here?? Adam at 16' tall, 1000#, and eyesight? Surely he could see for miles!? And IQ?? [PERFECT!] God did not need to wright it down in the beginning, (NO Books needed) for their memory was flawless, huh?;)
Another thing is about law? I suspect that on their first 'day of life' they heard their first 7th Day Sabbath Sermon after being created, and that NOTHING WAS DIS/ALLOWED from the Eternal Gospel! Rev. 14:6 + Eccl. 3:15
--Elijah
Oats
Member
i asked what the Bible has to say about Giants...
Goliath ,Nephilim, Og
all biblical entities
When i was listenting to the Am radio i heard some "Christian" writer comparing the Biblical creation to the sumerian one....
in which he said the sumerian tale had borrowed details fro m the biblical one
what they had saw as the Anunaki we're fallen angels
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I honestly couldn't care less on the Subject
I believe the Bible and all it say 100% !
so just let that be known
i'm asking opinions- christian and non christian
I'm Christian
casper
Member
I can't see what the problem is about asking, I think its a very interesting subject. I have also wondered about the giants mentioned in the bible and where they came from. Some of you need to remember that some of us are not as will versed as others, it doesn't make us any less of a christian.
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Theofilus
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Sorry about the misunderstanding. I thought you were asking about the Anunnaki specifically.
I haven't really thought much about the nephilim. They are only mentioned twice in the Bible, so I don't consider it important. There's nothing wroing with being curious about them, of course. There's an article about them on Wikipedia. If the link doesn't work, just go to wikipedia.org and search for "Nephilim" (without the quotes). The article discusses a number of different interpretations of the verses mentioning them.
Sissy
Member
Hi Oats.
I have studied the Anunnaki, so I would be willing to discuss it with you.
They are mentioned in the ancient writings of the Sumerian civilization, which is one of the oldest recorded civilizations.
One advantage of the ancient Sumerian writings is that they were written in stone. So they have not been altered for thousands of years (in other words, we have the originals).
The disadvantage is that there are only a handful of people in the world who are able to translate the writings.
And I also believe that the Anunnaki were fallen angels, but they saw them as "gods".
I have studied the Anunnaki, so I would be willing to discuss it with you.
They are mentioned in the ancient writings of the Sumerian civilization, which is one of the oldest recorded civilizations.
One advantage of the ancient Sumerian writings is that they were written in stone. So they have not been altered for thousands of years (in other words, we have the originals).
The disadvantage is that there are only a handful of people in the world who are able to translate the writings.
And I also believe that the Anunnaki were fallen angels, but they saw them as "gods".
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TaemJ
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I can totally see the Annunaki being fallen angels. And face it, theres no possible way that we can even fathom everything God is, has created, or has done. People that act like they know everything about God from reading a book just confuse me.
If anything, the Sumerian myths are interesting reads, especially for religious people who are involved with a religion that started with the Torah. A lot of their myths could be the origin, parallels, or proof of biblical events.. like The Great Deluge.
The Sumerian God Enki actually went against the Annunaki council and more specifically his half brother Enlil, who wanted to flood the entire Earth and kill all of the humans, by talking to a wall near Utnapishtim (Noah) and telling him to build a boat and save humans from the flood.
They also have stories like The Tower of Babel, Adam and Eve.. etc.
If anything, the Sumerian myths are interesting reads, especially for religious people who are involved with a religion that started with the Torah. A lot of their myths could be the origin, parallels, or proof of biblical events.. like The Great Deluge.
The Sumerian God Enki actually went against the Annunaki council and more specifically his half brother Enlil, who wanted to flood the entire Earth and kill all of the humans, by talking to a wall near Utnapishtim (Noah) and telling him to build a boat and save humans from the flood.
They also have stories like The Tower of Babel, Adam and Eve.. etc.
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Alabaster
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TaemJ
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myth
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4.an imaginary or fictitious thing or person.
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The bible has a few stories that could be considered myth. It may not be considered myth because its mainstream, but you certainly can't deny it.. (Well, of course you can.)
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Alabaster
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Pard
Member
I've read the Bible, and no myth is really coming to mind... Do you mean parables? Those were examples Jesus told, not myths...
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TaemJ
Guest
These can all be seen as miracles or Gods work or metaphors but, for real, this is how most Sumerians might have looked at their religions. If Christianity wasn't mainstream, people would look at it as if it were a myth or a cult. I know people will take this negatively, but if you look at it with an open mind.. you'll probably see it too. Look at something like Scientology. Their beliefs are ridiculous. lol.. and its something most people can agree on.
Anyways, heres what I can remember from the bible:
Samson's hair giving him strength.
Angels.
Seraphim, 4 faces, 6 wings.
Cherubim, if I remember correctly.. had features of animals.
Giants. (though to be honest, this doesn't seem as mythy to me.. unless he was like 30 feet tall.)
Talking bushes.
Sticks morphing into snakes.
Man surviving in the belly of a whale.
Reviving the dead.
Fiery Serpents
Talking Snakes.
People turning to salt.
I can say that the bible is a bit more down to Earth than some myths.. but it's astonishing how people can so easily label something as a myth even when it's extremely similar to Bible stories.
That was a horrible post. It would be a better post if it came from an atheist. Sorry. I mean, Christianity is based on Faith.. Faith means you believe in something that you can't see or hear, right? Last I checked, the only evidence for Jesus rising from the dead is the bible, but you believe, right?
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but the only proof to us that Noah is real is that it says so in the torah.. and we also believe because of our faith. Which according to your definition, makes Utnapishtm of the Sumerian Flood myth no less real than Noah.. the Sumerian story being written on stone tablets.
Anyways, heres what I can remember from the bible:
Samson's hair giving him strength.
Angels.
Seraphim, 4 faces, 6 wings.
Cherubim, if I remember correctly.. had features of animals.
Giants. (though to be honest, this doesn't seem as mythy to me.. unless he was like 30 feet tall.)
Talking bushes.
Sticks morphing into snakes.
Man surviving in the belly of a whale.
Reviving the dead.
Fiery Serpents
Talking Snakes.
People turning to salt.
I can say that the bible is a bit more down to Earth than some myths.. but it's astonishing how people can so easily label something as a myth even when it's extremely similar to Bible stories.
That was a horrible post. It would be a better post if it came from an atheist. Sorry. I mean, Christianity is based on Faith.. Faith means you believe in something that you can't see or hear, right? Last I checked, the only evidence for Jesus rising from the dead is the bible, but you believe, right?
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but the only proof to us that Noah is real is that it says so in the torah.. and we also believe because of our faith. Which according to your definition, makes Utnapishtm of the Sumerian Flood myth no less real than Noah.. the Sumerian story being written on stone tablets.
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Alabaster
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The trouble with some folk is that they view bible stories as mere stories. They are true events. Some are told in the only descriptive language available, as some visions given by God were so utterly beyond description---however, when one listens to God when one reads those passages, one realizes that is the case.
There were giants according to the bible both before and after the flood, I realize that the popular idea is that they were the result of the crossing of humans and angels but I do not see the bible as saying that, it seems to me that giants are not really explained in the bible as concerning their origin. Some of the biggest may have been around 12 feet tall.