God’s Dietary Laws

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I didn't read the whole article, but I did notice this part, where he was talking about pigs and the time Jesus cast demons out of a person into a herd of pigs.

This showed how little regard he had for them – or just how invaluable he found them to be.

The word "invaluable" actually means "of great value". It's one of those weird words where the prefix "in-" doesn't mean "not", like "inflammable", which doesn't mean it can't burn.

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I didn't read the whole article, but I did notice this part, where he was talking about pigs and the time Jesus cast demons out of a person into a herd of pigs.



The word "invaluable" actually means "of great value". It's one of those weird words where the prefix "in-" doesn't mean "not", like "inflammable", which doesn't mean it can't burn.

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Hmmmmm:chin
 
Instruction on diet. Imagine that, a father or mother telling their child what is or what isn't beneficial for them. Then on top of that expecting them to listen and be obedient. Parents expect way too much these days, children should always be allowed to do as they please without reprecussion.

Pretty much the reason why I don't eat what my Father has said not too eat is because He created these animals. Who better than He knows what is, and what isn't, fit for me to consume? I fear the One who'll slap me up alongsde the head if I get out of hand.

But thats just me.
 
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Instruction on diet. Imagine that, a father or mother telling their child what is or what isn't beneficial for them. Then on top of that expecting them to listen and be obedient. Parents expect way too much these days, children should always be allowed to do as they please without reprecussion.

Pretty much the reason why I don't eat what my Father has said not too eat is because He created these animals. Who better than He knows what is, and what isn't, fit for me to consume? I fear the One who'll slap me up alongsde the head if I get out of hand.

But thats just me.
Now, THAT's a confusing post, if I ever read one. :screwloose2
 
like there isn't worms and other diseases that beef and sheep don't transmit or one cant get from that stuff. one has to eat that stuff without the chemicals as well.
a cow which is kosher per law but not raised as such may not be all that good depending on how its raised.
 
Kosher doesn't have to mean it's good for you, and non-kosher doesn't have to mean it's bad for you. Fish n chips are biblically kosher, but all that grease is not going to do you arteries any good. Horse meat is not kosher, but it's no less healthy than beef. The fact is that God doesn't tell us why, He just says that there are things we can eat and other things we can't eat.

The TOG​
 
Unlike Judaism, Christianity has no rule prohibiting (or commanding) the eating of pork. In fact, in Acts 10:9-16, Peter has a vision where a sheet is lowered from Heaven with "all sorts of animals, reptiles, and birds" on it. He is then commanded to get up, kill, and eat the animals. To this, Peter is shocked and replies that he has never eaten anything unclean (as per the Judaic Law). To this, God replies:

Acts 10:15 (NLT)
15 But the voice spoke again: “Do not call something unclean if God has made it clean.”

There is of course a deeper meaning, but on the surface, God is telling Peter that nothing is unclean now (that is, no animals are unclean). This includes pigs and pork, so eating bacon and the like is perfectly acceptable (and happens quite often in the United States) among Christians. Another piece of support is that the four things still considered prohibited for Christians are listed in Acts 15:
 
Unlike Judaism, Christianity has no rule prohibiting (or commanding) the eating of pork. In fact, in Acts 10:9-16, Peter has a vision where a sheet is lowered from Heaven with "all sorts of animals, reptiles, and birds" on it. He is then commanded to get up, kill, and eat the animals. To this, Peter is shocked and replies that he has never eaten anything unclean (as per the Judaic Law). To this, God replies:

Acts 10:15 (NLT)
15 But the voice spoke again: “Do not call something unclean if God has made it clean.”

There is of course a deeper meaning, but on the surface, God is telling Peter that nothing is unclean now (that is, no animals are unclean). This includes pigs and pork, so eating bacon and the like is perfectly acceptable (and happens quite often in the United States) among Christians. Another piece of support is that the four things still considered prohibited for Christians are listed in Acts 15:

And he said to me, “Son of man, feed your belly with this scroll that I give you and fill your stomach with it.” Then I ate it (Ezek. 3:3 ESV)

So I went to the angel and told him to give me the little scroll. And he said to me, “Take and eat it; it will make your stomach bitter, but in your mouth it will be sweet as honey.” And I took the little scroll from the hand of the angel and ate it. (Rev. 10:9-10)
Unlike Peter, both Ezekiel and John actually ate what was given to them. Does that mean we are to eat books? Or is it maybe possible that being told to eat something in a vision doesn't mean we are to eat it in real life? That seems to have been Peter's understanding of his vision. He refused to eat anything unclean and, later, when he was explaining the meaning of the vision, he didn't mention anything about the dietary rules, but said that God had showed him he shouldn't call any man unclean.

The TOG​
 
And he said to me, “Son of man, feed your belly with this scroll that I give you and fill your stomach with it.” Then I ate it (Ezek. 3:3 ESV)

So I went to the angel and told him to give me the little scroll. And he said to me, “Take and eat it; it will make your stomach bitter, but in your mouth it will be sweet as honey.” And I took the little scroll from the hand of the angel and ate it. (Rev. 10:9-10)
Unlike Peter, both Ezekiel and John actually ate what was given to them. Does that mean we are to eat books? Or is it maybe possible that being told to eat something in a vision doesn't mean we are to eat it in real life? That seems to have been Peter's understanding of his vision. He refused to eat anything unclean and, later, when he was explaining the meaning of the vision, he didn't mention anything about the dietary rules, but said that God had showed him he shouldn't call any man unclean.

The TOG​

Yeah, I tried the termite diet and started eating books and wood. Not pleasant belching up paper pulp so I stopped. :lol
 
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Unlike Judaism, Christianity has no rule prohibiting (or commanding) the eating of pork. In fact, in Acts 10:9-16, Peter has a vision where a sheet is lowered from Heaven with "all sorts of animals, reptiles, and birds" on it. He is then commanded to get up, kill, and eat the animals. To this, Peter is shocked and replies that he has never eaten anything unclean (as per the Judaic Law). To this, God replies:

Acts 10:15 (NLT)
15 But the voice spoke again: “Do not call something unclean if God has made it clean.”

There is of course a deeper meaning, but on the surface, God is telling Peter that nothing is unclean now (that is, no animals are unclean). This includes pigs and pork, so eating bacon and the like is perfectly acceptable (and happens quite often in the United States) among Christians. Another piece of support is that the four things still considered prohibited for Christians are listed in Acts 15:


I tend to disagree that this portion of Peters life was telling him pork and other unclean beasts were now on the menu.

First off the story begins with the telling of Cornelius: A devout man, and one that feared God with all his house, which gave much alms to the people, and prayed to God alway This is the begining of the story and very reason for Peters dream, the devotion of a Gentile man

First off I note that even after the crucifixion when the Law was I suppose done away with. Peter, who had known Jesus personally, still had never eaten anything unclean and even argued against doing so with spirit in his dream saying: Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean. After the dream he didn't run out to the local BBQ pit to eat a pulled pork sandwich. But he did however, wonder what the dream had meant since it seemed contrary to everything he had been taught, i.e. thou shall not eat anything unclean. Now while Peter doubted in himself what this vision which he had seen should mean, behold, the men which were sent from Cornelius had made enquiry for Simon's house, and stood before the gate. Now the reason for the dream is begining to unfold as men have come to Peter to convince him to go to the home of a Gentile who had a good report among all the nation of Judeans. And they said, Cornelius the centurion, a just man, and one that feareth God, and of good report among all the nation of the Jews, was warned from God by an holy angel to send for thee into his house, and to hear words of thee.

It wasn't until after he had met Cornelius that Peter finally understood what the dream had meant. And he said unto them, Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean.

There you have it! :) The meaning of the dream as Peter and I understand it. Has nothing to do with doing away with Gods instruction but rather the grafting in of a wild branch, a Gentile wh fears God, into the true vine, Israel.

Fear of God implies hatred of evil and wrong, and makes for righteousness and peace. "Thou shalt not curse the deaf, nor put a stumbling-block before the blind, but shalt fear thy God" (Leviticus 19: 4). And is identical with love and service. "And now, Israel, what doth YHVH thy God require of thee but to fear YHVH thy God, to walk in all His ways, and to love Him, and to serve YHVH thy God with all thy heart and with all thy soul?" (Deut. 10:12).

Moral of the story? Be like Peter and Cornelious fear YHVH and walk in His ways. Our health and nutrition is just as important to our Father in Heaven as our childrens health and nutrition is to us as mothers and fathers. Walking in His ways also sets us apart from the rest of the world, making it obvious to the rest of the world what God it is you fear and love.
 
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Kosher doesn't have to mean it's good for you, and non-kosher doesn't have to mean it's bad for you. Fish n chips are biblically kosher, but all that grease is not going to do you arteries any good. Horse meat is not kosher, but it's no less healthy than beef. The fact is that God doesn't tell us why, He just says that there are things we can eat and other things we can't eat.

The TOG​

I can only surmise why God would not alow us eat certain things as there doesn't seem to be any reasons given. Some animals have one thing in common they eat carrion, waste, things we ourselves nolonger want in our homes or would eat. Those animals itended purpose seems to be garbage disposals not as food for our consumption. Others have nothing in common with the garbage disposals yet we are still told not to eat them either. This could be that our Creator just didn't design them to be consumed by us. Maybe they have a special place in His heart. Kind of like how we have pets which have places in our family and hearts. Would we be happy if someone ate the family dog or cat before our very eyes?

I'm just taking a wild guess as to why these commandments are the way they are.

One thing is for certain though I think when a king speaks his subjects should listen and abide or be subject to the kings displeasure. Even if it tatses good to us I think a little restraint is neccessary.
 
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Why did the Old Testament Law command against the eating of pork?
http://www.gotquestions.org/eating-pork.html

It's amazing how many people think they can tell us why God prohibited the eating of pork (as if that were the only unclean animal), when God Himself doesn't tell us. There are 7 Bible references in that article, and not one of them tells us why we shouldn't eat pork. Any reason people give is just their ideas of what the reasons might have been. The fact is that God declared certain animals clean and fit to use as food, while He declared other animals unclean and unfit for human consumption. That should be enough. We shouldn't need any more reason than that.

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I read somewhere there was a Semitic people that had a thyrotoxicosis outbreak, causing pork not to be eaten.