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elijah23 said:
The Lord is perfect—he would never issue such a command.

We must to learn to differentiate between the Lord’s voice and Satan’s.
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Of course he wouldn't. I think 'theLords' point (correct me if I'm wrong) is that a person would only think its God when really its Saturn. You may think you would know the difference but Satan is a sneaky critter.
 
casper said:
Of course he wouldn't. I think 'theLords' point (correct me if I'm wrong) is that a person would only think its God when really its Saturn. You may think you would know the difference but Satan is a sneaky critter.
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Amen to Satan being a sneaky critter:

Now the serpent was more subtle than any other wild creature that the LORD God had made. Gen 3:1 RSV

We do have to learn to distinguish between the Lord’s voice and Satan’s.
 
elijah23 said:
Amen to Satan being a sneaky critter:

Now the serpent was more subtle than any other wild creature that the LORD God had made. Gen 3:1 RSV

We do have to learn to distinguish between the Lord’s voice and Satan’s.
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How do we learn this?
 
theLords said:
How do we learn this?
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There are two ways I know of. The Lord can teach you directly, perhaps using your experience as a learning tool. He can also remind you of passages in the Bible that might help you understand.
 
elijah23 said:
There are two ways I know of. The Lord can teach you directly, perhaps using your experience as a learning tool. He can also remind you of passages in the Bible that might help you understand.
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Ah, so finally, there we have it. We NEED the Bible to know who God is.
 
theLords said:
Ah, so finally, there we have it. We NEED the Bible to know who God is.
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I did not say that. The Bible is at the Lord’s disposal if he chooses to use it. He can also use our past experiences with which to teach us, and perhaps he has other methods.
 
elijah23 said:
The Lord communicates directly to each of us. We learn about him as we develop a personal relationship with him.
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And what does a personal relationship mean to you, Elijah23?

Do you spend time in prayer?
Does the Lord have a conversation with you, or does He speak to you from the Word?

I'd like to remind you that there are many born again believers here who have walked with the Lord for many years, so it would be interesting to hear how you understand exactly what a "personal relationship" means.

As members of the body of Christ, how are we to minister to one another, and does that affect our relationship to Jesus? Perhaps a few more details than "love" would help my understanding of where you're coming from on this topic. I'm thinking maybe our terminology may be hindering this conversation. Just a thought.
 
glorydaz said:
And what does a personal relationship mean to you, Elijah23?
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It means he is my God—my boss. It means we are friends. It means I try to follow the path he has set forth for me. He is loyal to me, as he is to all of us, and I owe him my loyalty. I fall short, but I am to love him with all my heart, mind, and soul, and he loves me.
 
glorydaz said:
Do you spend time in prayer?
Does the Lord have a conversation with you, or does He speak to you from the Word?
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I stop and pray three times each day, but mostly I try to “speak†to him as I go about my daily activities.

It’s hard to describe how it is the Lord communicates with us, but he does communicate. We need to
“listen.â€
 
elijah23 said:
I stop and pray three times each day, but mostly I try to “speak†to him as I go about my daily activities.

It’s hard to describe how it is the Lord communicates with us, but he does communicate. We need to
“listen.â€
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I can describe how the Lord speaks to us....through His written Word (Bible) and His peace which passes all understanding.
 
glorydaz said:
And what does a personal relationship mean to you, Elijah23?

Do you spend time in prayer?
Does the Lord have a conversation with you, or does He speak to you from the Word?

I'd like to remind you that there are many born again believers here who have walked with the Lord for many years, so it would be interesting to hear how you understand exactly what a "personal relationship" means.

As members of the body of Christ, how are we to minister to one another, and does that affect our relationship to Jesus? Perhaps a few more details than "love" would help my understanding of where you're coming from on this topic. I'm thinking maybe our terminology may be hindering this conversation. Just a thought.
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The Lord is our friend. He said so himself. You need to understand that to understand him.
 
glorydaz said:
I can describe how the Lord speaks to us....through His written Word (Bible) and His peace which passes all understanding.
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There is more to the Lord’s communications than just speaking to us through his Word. There is also the personal relationship—the friendship.
 
elijah23 said:
There is more to the Lord’s communications than just speaking to us through his Word. There is also the personal relationship—the friendship.
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That relationship includes the study of the entire word! Everything we learn needs to be supported by scripture, which makes for safety from error and deceit.

Jesus should be impressing on you by His Spirit that His word in its totality is truth. Learn of His grace through the men He anointed to write His message to you! The men who wrote the gospels are just as fallible as Paul, yet you hold their writing as infallible.

Someone has influenced you with lies, elijah.
 
I think what people are saying is the word can be trusted to be from God other forms of communication should be treated with caution. I'm sure God dose communicate in other ways how ever it is always better to trust the word. If it goes against the word its not from god.
 
Alabaster said:
That relationship includes the study of the entire word! Everything we learn needs to be supported by scripture, which makes for safety from error and deceit.

Jesus should be impressing on you by His Spirit that His word in its totality is truth. Learn of His grace through the men He anointed to write His message to you! The men who wrote the gospels are just as fallible as Paul, yet you hold their writing as infallible.

Someone has influenced you with lies, elijah.
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I have read the entire Bible on more than one occasion.

The Lord communicates directly with us.

The goal is to have a personal relationship with the Lord.
 
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