God hates divorce. Why not War?

[stovebolts]

God hates what causes divorce. He does not hate the person that gets the divorce and as a matter of fact, God allows for divorce just as he has allowed for other sins. dot the i and cross the t's, and I believe that adultry is a valid cause for divorce when all else has failed.

Now, I believe that sin seperates us from the glory of Christ and we, as Christians are called to be holy. If we look at Ezra 9 and Ezra 10, we have an example of the people doing what God told them not to do, which lead to this... Ezra 10:3 Now therefore let us make a covenant with our God to put away all the wives [Stove Says, "Divorce"], and such as are born of them, according to the counsel of my lord, and of those that tremble at the commandment of our God; and let it be done according to the law.

I am not saying that if one is an adultress that a divorce is a given immediatly. But in the event that one won't repent, then God does allow for divorce.

I can't speak for war, although I do know that he has authorized war.

 

[MrVersatile48]

Hi guys!

Thess, would you believe I actually agree with much of what you say here: quite a bit was what I had in mind from reading the OP :wink:

As I've said on several threads - (not just those where you & I have thrilled the audience with our vigourous styles!) - there are many cases where folk either use the same words, but with different meanings, or use quite different words to mean the same thing

What struck my funny bone here was, though I agree with you that God intended mariage to reflect & teach us @ the fellowship within the Triune Godhead, I cannot therefore understand - apart from its historical origins in paganism - why RC priests are therefore forbidden to marry, as such prohibition, in effect, keeps them permanently divorced/separated from the female life partner that God said, in Genesis, it is not good for man to be without: to be alone

The Bible actually curses those who forbid marriage - partly for that reason

Those whom God genuinely calls to shepherd His flock are to teach by following Bible teaching, not just by word, but in deed, how the new birth breaks down the wall of partition, not just between God & man,but makes 'one new man' out of man & woman, also reconciling rich & poor, black & white

'Koinonia' - the word translated 'fellowship', was the Greek word for a business partnership, showing that God wants us to mean business in building up the fellowship

So again, banning priests from marrying is enforcing an institutionalised divorce that isolates folk instead of joining them together as one: many folk have always said that single, celibate priests are woefully inadequate to help folk with relationship problems

That's why they're legendary for going progressively more inward looking & eccentric, thus marring the image of Christ, who came to tear down barriers & 'put the isolated into families'

Must remember the war part of the OP

Many, though it hasn't yet been posted, will think of the Exodus 20 Commandment, 'You shall not kill'

What many folk don't know is the richness of Hebrew (& Greek)

Just as there are 4 words for love, meaning different aspects/types, so there are 4 words for 'kill'

The one banned means deliberate murder

Neither duly authorised judicial execution, nor duly authorised war in defence of the realm (& the weak & ill & old, etc) are banned

Death penalty for murder was instituted by God

I just have time to add Romans 13 - it defines God-ordained Govt as upholding what's right & punishing evil, so Govts like Hitler/Stalin/Amin/Pol Pot, & Antichrist, who encourage evil & persecute the good, are not God-ordained

Time's gone: must go

God bless!

Ian

 

[thessalonian]

So mr. v.

Yes we agree sometimes. That is good.

First of all your post is somewhat off topic and not the purpose of the thread but I will give a short answer.
Are you saying that Matt 19 is wrong and "to none has this been given", ie. Peter said "then it is better NOT TO MARRY". Why didn't Jesus say "it is not good for man to be alone Peter. You are right. Make sure John get's married". Was Paul wrong in 1 Cor 7 when he said that he recommends the single life as he was single. That married life divides a man between his wife and his wife? This is of course for some but Matt 19 says quite clearly that some are called to celibacy. Now the question is why?

Well marriage is good and ordained by God but what is our state in heaven in the eternity.

Luke 12
[25] For when they rise from the dead, they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven.

Matt 22:

[28] In the resurrection, therefore, to which of the seven will she be wife? For they all had her."
[29] But Jesus answered them, "You are wrong, because you know neither the scriptures nor the power of God.
[30] For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven.

In heaven we are in communion with God. Now the celibate man, not being divided as Paul speaks can already devote his live solely to the contemplation of God and the service of others. He experiences the state of man in heaven, now on earth. He has not given up marriage because it is bad, but because it is good and he gives it up "for the kingdom". For the sake of spreading the mission of Christ on this earth. That he may devote full time to that.

It is interesting that several years ago I heard a poll among married protestant pastors. Had they had it over to do again, knowing the demands that their pastorate put on their lives and therefore on their families, they would not have been pastors and had a family.

Hope that helps.