Bible Study God Is In Control

[th1b.taylor]

Proverbs 19:21
Romans 8:28
[URL='http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Jeremiah+29%3A11&version=ESV']Jeremiah 29:11
[URL='http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah+45%3A6-7&version=ESV']Isaiah 45:6-7
Joshua 1:9 [/URL][/URL]
The study of the power of God a truly eye opening study. These five verses were intentionally extracted from the study located at http://www.openbible.info/topics/god_is_in_control in order to avoid posting an entire study list.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+8:28&version=ESV
In the world and in the church I am often met with fierce rhetoric declaring my teaching on this matter heretical. I am guilty of, most often, taking the easy way out by asking these folks to read the entire book of Job, please. It appears that I am, today, considered to be unreasonable, asking people to read a whole book of the Bible.

But there is a rule I live by, concerning scripture, "If God had a thing recorded once in the scriptures, we need to pay attention. If God has directed anything be repeated, it is like unto highlighting a critical instruction on a set of Blue Prints or the highlighted path to a delivery point handed to a Driver by his dispatcher. If a thing is retold three times, it is not to be forgotten." The fact that God controls everything is recorded over and over throughout the whole of scripture.

Yet we have in the Church Universal a huge movement declaring that God is not in control of Hell, not in control of ISIS and not in control of my life. This is but one of the proverbial Match Boxes we seek to hold God in inside our pocket and purses. God is without limit, so much so that in my opinion, we do not yet and might never fully understand His unlimited power.

 

[Chopper]

Very well said my old Buddy! I have thought many times and have been criticized by saying this, "If we knew everything about this God called YHWH, we would fall on our faces dumbfounded and shaking violently." I've had people say "Oh no! He is a loving God who would pick me up and cradle me." I don't think so...He is in absolute control with all matter and life. Nothing escapes His view. Everything is going on as planned by His absolute perfect plan for the ages.

Thank you for posting your statement at this time. We need to be ready for what tomorrow brings, no longer is it a tip-toe thru the tulips. We are to be alert and ready as a soldier is ready for his Commanding Officer to order his action.

 

[reba]

and church said Amen

 

[white hamster]

God is in control.

That is such a frightening indictment against God when we look at the world's turmoil, conflict, and bloody violence and then hear someone argue; it's all God's doing! (Because he's in control of it all).

 

[th1b.taylor]

God is in control.

That is such a frightening indictment against God when we look at the world's turmoil, conflict, and bloody violence and then hear someone argue; it's all God's doing! (Because he's in control of it all).

WH,
I noticed when you arrived so, welcome but it appears you are not willing to do the study of God's Word from a topical perspective. You've not been read enough by me to know your view on Eternal Hell, the most taught by the son of God when it came to teaching of eternity but it is my position that God, first, is the Just God and if He is Just then He is fair.

God being in control does not cancel out His permissive will, it illustrates it. The common World View is that God sends people to Hell but is not the Master there is pure bunk born of intentional ignorance. Nothing can be further from the truth and if we will read the Bible in the same manor we read the latest best seller, from front to the end, the Word of God comes alive... if we have been indwelt with the Holy spirit (saved) and we are not guilty of quenching His input (living in intentional sin).

This teaching, today, is known as Difficult Teaching but I try to be much more honest and direct than that, this is Hell fire and Brimstone Preaching. Jesus never had anyone teach on Hell in parables, not even me. Many argue against this direct form of truth because they prefer the Ear Ticklers Jesus warned us about and the LORD has not called me for that and so it is that here I am.

Some declare I am trying to scare people out of going to Hell and that does, indeed, apply. If we have a normal Spring, where I live, we will endure 8 to 11 mid to major floods, that's just normal weather. If I go down to the Bridge over to the next county and it is swaying from side to side, just sitting there, I need to do two things, I need to alert the DPS and then I need to set myself up ahead of the last turn to stop poeple and alert them to not cross the bridge, to scare them to safety until the DPS crews block the access.

God is not cruel but He is just.

 

[white hamster]

I'm not scared by dialog. No worries.
I know more about scripture than you would presume to give me credit for.

 

[Gary]

God is in control.

That is such a frightening indictment against God when we look at the world's turmoil, conflict, and bloody violence and then hear someone argue; it's all God's doing! (Because he's in control of it all).

If God isn't in control........who is?

.

 

[Kathi]

God definately is in control and it is a very,very comforting thought to me.If a person does not think God is totally in control they need to search scripture further.

 

[Deborah13]

God is in control.

That is such a frightening indictment against God when we look at the world's turmoil, conflict, and bloody violence and then hear someone argue; it's all God's doing! (Because he's in control of it all).

I think I understand what you are saying.

For me to understand this means.....
God is in control but that doesn't mean He does or commands everything that happens. I other words, there are other forces at work. But nothing can happen without God allowing it, this is His permissive will.
God has given His people instructions as to how to live by trusting Him and weapons and power to fight the good fight and spread the Gospel. The Word of God, the Holy Spirit, and the name of Jesus Christ.
God does not condemn men to hell without just cause. If one ends up perishing it will not be God's fault as He has provided everything man needs to live with God for eternity.

 

[Kathi]

I think I understand what you are saying.

For me to understand this means.....
God is in control but that doesn't mean He does or commands everything that happens. I other words, there are other forces at work. But nothing can happen without God allowing it, this is His permissive will.
God has given His people instructions as to how to live by trusting Him and weapons and power to fight the good fight and spread the Gospel. The Word of God, the Holy Spirit, and the name of Jesus Christ.
God does not condemn men to hell without just cause. If one ends up perishing it will not be God's fault as He has provided everything man needs to live with God for eternity.

I do think that God commands everything that happens.

 

[white hamster]

I do think that God commands everything that happens.

That would be in keeping with what scripture tells us, yes.

 

[Deborah13]

I do think that God commands everything that happens.

The Israelites began worshiping pagan gods and sacrificed their children by fire. And GOD said,....

Jer 19:5 They have built also the high places of Baal, to burn their sons with fire for burnt offerings unto Baal, which I commanded not, nor spake it, neither came it into my mind:

Jer 32:33 And they have turned unto me the back, and not the face: though I taught them, rising up early and teaching them, yet they have not hearkened to receive instruction.
Jer 32:34 But they set their abominations in the house, which is called by my name, to defile it.
Jer 32:35 And they built the high places of Baal, which are in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to cause their sons and their daughters to pass through the fire unto Molech; which I commanded them not, neither came it into my mind, that they should do this abomination, to cause Judah to sin.

God says it never entered His Mind to command them to do such a horrible thing.
Who caused Judah it sin? It wasn't God.

 

[white hamster]

The Bible is full of prophecy. That which God spake to the patriarchs so they would deliver it unto the people. And that which God ordered to be copied down, or inspired so that it became what we today call, God's word.
Not to forget the Book of Daniel and Revelation.

Do not go beyond what is written
(1 Corinthians 4:6)


Jeremiah 1:5
“Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you; I appointed you a prophet to the nations.”

 

[Kathi]

The Israelites began worshiping pagan gods and sacrificed their children by fire. And GOD said,....

Jer 19:5 They have built also the high places of Baal, to burn their sons with fire for burnt offerings unto Baal, which I commanded not, nor spake it, neither came it into my mind:
Jer 32:33 And they have turned unto me the back, and not the face: though I taught them, rising up early and teaching them, yet they have not hearkened to receive instruction.
Jer 32:34 But they set their abominations in the house, which is called by my name, to defile it.
Jer 32:35 And they built the high places of Baal, which are in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to cause their sons and their daughters to pass through the fire unto Molech; which I commanded them not, neither came it into my mind, that they should do this abomination, to cause Judah to sin.
God says it never entered His Mind to command them to do such a horrible thing.
Who caused Judah it sin? It wasn't God.

God did not make Judah sin but perhaps He allowed it.Why?I don't know God's understanding and ways are very different from our own.

Isaiah 14:24 and Isaiah 46:10 states that God is in control of everything.[/quote]

 

[Deborah13]

God did not make Judah sin but perhaps He allowed it.Why?I don't know God's understanding and ways are very different from our own.

Isaiah 14:24 and Isaiah 46:10 states that God is in control of everything.

[/QUOTE]

This is what I understand from these verses.....
Isa 14:24 The LORD of hosts hath sworn, saying, Surely as I have thought, so shall it come to pass; and as I have purposed, so shall it stand:

What this say is.....if God thinks and purposes something, it will come to pass.
It does Not say, that everything that comes to pass, God purposed it or even enter His Mind to purpose it.

Isa 46:10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:

What it does say is.....God's decisions (the things He has purposed) will stand and He will do as He desires.
What it does Not say is that everything that is done was by His Command or was His desire.

What do you think the verses in Jeremiah are saying?

 

[Kathi]

This is what I understand from these verses.....
Isa 14:24 The LORD of hosts hath sworn, saying, Surely as I have thought, so shall it come to pass; and as I have purposed, so shall it stand:

What this say is.....if God thinks and purposes something, it will come to pass.
It does Not say, that everything that comes to pass, God purposed it or even enter His Mind to purpose it.

Isa 46:10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:

What it does say is.....God's decisions (the things He has purposed) will stand and He will do as He desires.
What it does Not say is that everything that is done was by His Command or was His desire.

What do you think the verses in Jeremiah are saying?[/QUOTE]


Jeremiah 19:5 tells me that God can know all things in the past and the future.

 

[Deborah13]

The Bible is full of prophecy. That which God spake to the patriarchs so they would deliver it unto the people. And that which God ordered to be copied down, or inspired so that it became what we today call, God's word.
Not to forget the Book of Daniel and Revelation.

Do not go beyond what is written
(1 Corinthians 4:6)


Jeremiah 1:5
“Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you; I appointed you a prophet to the nations.”

? Was this in response to my post from Jeremiah?

 

[Deborah13]

This is what I understand from these verses.....
Isa 14:24 The LORD of hosts hath sworn, saying, Surely as I have thought, so shall it come to pass; and as I have purposed, so shall it stand:

What this say is.....if God thinks and purposes something, it will come to pass.
It does Not say, that everything that comes to pass, God purposed it or even enter His Mind to purpose it.

Isa 46:10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:

What it does say is.....God's decisions (the things He has purposed) will stand and He will do as He desires.
What it does Not say is that everything that is done was by His Command or was His desire.

What do you think the verses in Jeremiah are saying?

Jeremiah 19:5 tells me that God can know all things in the past and the future.[/QUOTE]

I think God knows all things from the beginning to the end.

Please explain your interpretation of Jeremiah 19:5. I don't see where it says anything about God knowing all things past and future?

 

[Kathi]

Jeremiah 19:5 tells me that God can know all things in the past and the future.

I think God knows all things from the beginning to the end.

Please explain your interpretation of Jeremiah 19:5. I don't see where it says anything about God knowing all things past and future?[/QUOTE]
God is all knowing.God is God.Why wouldn't God know everything?I guess we all see scripture differently.If you do not see what I see then

 

[th1b.taylor]

God does not condemn men to hell without just cause.

Hi Deb, hope you are doing all right. I just want to put a different slant on this of part of what you said because it is, perhaps, the most common misstatement I see or hear from folks. If you had left the last three words off it would be scripturally correct but we so commonly hear it expressed just as you have quoted until it just flows off our tongues these days,

I think, there goes that old codger trying to slip the transmission between his fingers and his brain into gear again, this common misstatement is a result of logical thinking. Here on the earth we have millions of judges that set men free or they sentence them to some sort of punishment for their misdeeds. From this we couple our knowledge with the truth that God will judge the Lost from the Great White throne of Judgement and we usually impose this same kind of judgement onto God when if we do a topical study on the subject we find that God is judging the same things about the Lost Man that He judges about us at the Bema Seat Judgement, the judgement of those that ran the good race.

The difference is that where we accepted the free gift of Salvation, they refused it, condemning themselves to eternity in Hell. God just pronounces the sentence, so as to speak. Have a blessed day.