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God Wants You Well

God th Father and God the Holy Spirit are spirit beings, just as all angels and Demons are. DNA has extension into the Space/Time Continuum God created for us. When a man or a woman dies their DNA is buried, I hope, six foot deep. we do not take our dna with us and there is no idea, let alone biblical proof of such an idea. You need to be careful with this, heresy is not allowed here and it seems to me that this is skating on some thin ice, brother.

Brother Taylor,
1 peter 23 says it this way........
Being Born Again , NOT of corrutible seed ,but of "Incorruptible, by the wod of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

When we are born again He places His spirit into our spirit man correct? So would not The very spirit of God be His dna ? What is the word of God ? What is the spirit of God? What is the Light of God?
What is "INCORRUPTIBLE seed ? Are these not all traits of God or HIS DNA? Which He placed in us.

How about John 1:1-5
1 In the begining was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All Things were made by Him; and without Him was not anything made that was made.
4 In Him was life; and the life was the light of men.
5 And the light shineth in darkness; and darkness comprehended it not.

So please brother Taylor explain to me why I am on thin ice for saying God places His dna in our spirit man when we become born again and filled with His spirit
Jim
 
Brother Taylor,
1 peter 23 says it this way........
Being Born Again , NOT of corrutible seed ,but of "Incorruptible, by the wod of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

When we are born again He places His spirit into our spirit man correct? So would not The very spirit of God be His dna ? What is the word of God ? What is the spirit of God? What is the Light of God?
What is "INCORRUPTIBLE seed ? Are these not all traits of God or HIS DNA? Which He placed in us.

How about John 1:1-5
1 In the begining was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All Things were made by Him; and without Him was not anything made that was made.
4 In Him was life; and the life was the light of men.
5 And the light shineth in darkness; and darkness comprehended it not.

So please brother Taylor explain to me why I am on thin ice for saying God places His dna in our spirit man when we become born again and filled with His spirit
Jim
This sounds like speculation.
Saying that God even has DNA brings him down to the same level as his creation.
God doesn't has DNA, he created DNA.
The point you are trying to make is not valid.
 
I just wanted to apologize for thinking that you were yelling at me. I am new to forums, and talking back and forth in a discussion manner, and it not being one yelling at another. Growing up, (i just realized) i believed the lie, that if i had an opinion other than my dad's or another adults, i was being rebellious. So i am now learning how to be ok with having an opinion, and how to write it out. Again my apologies for misunderstanding.
I understand. I was raised by a WW II and Korean War Veteran that believed in compulsory obedience but unlike yourself I was encouraged to have my own opinion. However I had several men serve under me that I had to teach how to ignore the hard stripes and RLOs when they had screaming fits. (Hard Stripes = non-coms and RLO = Real Live Officer)

I'm old enough that younsters, often, believe I should barely be able to turn a computer on and definately not know programing and how to build them. Several of us pray you enjoy your time here to be enjoyable. Just remember not to put that chip of wood on your shoulder and to learn and to never be afraid to share and never, never, be afraid to ask. The only stupid question is the one not asked.
 
Brother Taylor,
1 peter 23 says it this way........
Being Born Again , NOT of corrutible seed ,but of "Incorruptible, by the wod of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

When we are born again He places His spirit into our spirit man correct?
No, nowhere in the scriptures does it proclaim such a thing. And first Peter twenty-three has no bearing at all on such an idea.
So would not The very spirit of God be His dna ?
I'm not at all convinced that the Holy Spirit resides, physically, anywhere inside my physical being, let alone in something so small that the common microscope cannot see it. When the Bible says the Holy Spirit lives in us it is written so the simplest of folks can get a grasp on it and while it is absolutely a true statement, we must determine, first, is it literal or is it figurative?

Yes, the Holy Spirit guides my moment to moment movements, as long as I submit myself to Him because God is not like the fallen angels and He does not seek to take us over. God requires obedience.
What is the word of God ? What is the spirit of God? What is the Light of God?
What is "INCORRUPTIBLE seed ? Are these not all traits of God or HvinIS DNA? Which He placed in us.
The Word of God has no demonstrated effect on what you are teaching here as being the word of God and that is why I say you are skating on some thin ice here. Three times in the
Word we are warned to neither add to not take away from the word of God and you appear to have added what is not there.

How about John 1:1-5
1 In the begining was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All Things were made by Him; and without Him was not anything made that was made.
4 In Him was life; and the life was the light of men.
5 And the light shineth in darkness; and darkness comprehended it not.

So please brother Taylor explain to me why I am on thin ice for saying God places His dna in our spirit man when we become born again and filled with His spirit
Jim
Jim, again the scripture quoted has no bearing on what you are proclaiming to be the Word of God. This entire teaching is the thoughts and misapplication of scripture of someone.
 
This sounds like speculation.
Saying that God even has DNA brings him down to the same level as his creation.
God doesn't has DNA, he created DNA.
The point you are trying to make is not valid.

Rollo Hello,
So you assume what I said was bringing God down to the level of His creation. So you are a kind of the glass is half empty type of person. Cool, but that was not said or even applied here. We are made in the image of God and He places His spirit in us. So He is lifting us up unto a higher level in Him. To say God has no dna is kind of like saying God has no personality, or traits or being....My point is valid to those who seek a deeper revelation into GOD AND Who He is.

If you dont think this is true then show me please.
Thank You and have a wonderful week end
Jim
 
No, nowhere in the scriptures does it proclaim such a thing. And first Peter twenty-three has no bearing at all on such an idea.

((( It has no bearing at all on this ? How can you say this ? Do you understand that the word is seed? )))

I'm not at all convinced that the Holy Spirit resides, physically, anywhere inside my physical being, let alone in something so small that the common microscope cannot see it. When the Bible says the Holy Spirit lives in us it is written so the simplest of folks can get a grasp on it and while it is absolutely a true statement, we must determine, first, is it literal or is it figurative?

((( Brother if you feel that way then so be it, I can not force you to believe anything but when scripture tells me that the Holy Spirit resides in me.........well brother the holy spirit is residing in me. See I believe what the word says)))


Yes, the Holy Spirit guides my moment to moment movements, as long as I submit myself to Him because God is not like the fallen angels and He does not seek to take us over. God requires obedience.

(( This is kind of true as to we need to submit our selves unto God and His ways but why would you use God does not take us over.....perhaps this is to the Holy Spirit living in us ? Help me understand where you were going))

The Word of God has no demonstrated effect on what you are teaching here as being the word of God and that is why I say you are skating on some thin ice here. Three times in the
Word we are warned to neither add to not take away from the word of God and you appear to have added what is not there.

(( Oh you talking about Revelation 22:18-19 ?
18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book;
19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away His part out of the book of life, and out of the Holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

Or perhaps when Paul was referring to those hucksters who preached or taught theword in such a way to gain them and so forth? Either way brother, I am safe so relax and worry not.))

Jim, again the scripture quoted has no bearing on what you are proclaiming to be the Word of God. This entire teaching is the thoughts and misapplication of scripture of someone.

(( The scripture given has every bearing in this what I was saying. Again Brother I take the word for what it says and what I am taught by the Lord. If this bothers you brother Taylor I am sorry but it does not really change much at all for the word is truth to them that will find it.....You got to search and you can notlive on what you learned or decided to believe 10 years ago or even the past year. )) You may have to expand this to see the begining of my reply
Be at peace brother
Jim
 
I understand. I was raised by a WW II and Korean War Veteran that believed in compulsory obedience but unlike yourself I was encouraged to have my own opinion. However I had several men serve under me that I had to teach how to ignore the hard stripes and RLOs when they had screaming fits. (Hard Stripes = non-coms and RLO = Real Live Officer)

I'm old enough that younsters, often, believe I should barely be able to turn a computer on and definately not know programing and how to build them. Several of us pray you enjoy your time here to be enjoyable. Just remember not to put that chip of wood on your shoulder and to learn and to never be afraid to share and never, never, be afraid to ask. The only stupid question is the one not asked.

Thanks Bill for understanding. I thank you all for your prayers and will take your advice to share and ask questions. I am very thankful to you all for allowing me to be here, and to learn to be apart! My life is fully committed to Christ, and learning His ways and more importantly walking just like Jesus walked. I see so many people out in the world who are lost and i know that God's heart weeps over every lost and prodigal person, and over every person who has toil on this earth, in their life. I thank God every night for being so patient with me, because i know that He desires no man to perish!
I have a great respect for all of you who have put your time in studying the Word, and living in such a way that Christ is clearly seen in your lives and your intimate relationship with the Father is evident, and i really appreciate what God has done in all of your lives.
To be able to hear (ok read) the Wonderful testimonies of God working through all of you, to reach, and heal and whatever the case may be, is just really exciting! It really causes my Faith to grow stronger, and my trust in God's Wonderful Love and goodness for us all to be strengthened. Knowing you all really encourages my own Walk that God has called me to.
I pray that The Lord Bless you all and keep you
Make His face to shine upon you, and be gracious unto you
The Lord look on you all with favor, and bring you peace! Blessings
 
Rollo Hello,
So you assume what I said was bringing God down to the level of His creation. So you are a kind of the glass is half empty type of person. Cool, but that was not said or even applied here. We are made in the image of God and He places His spirit in us. So He is lifting us up unto a higher level in Him. To say God has no dna is kind of like saying God has no personality, or traits or being....My point is valid to those who seek a deeper revelation into GOD AND Who He is.

If you dont think this is true then show me please.
Thank You and have a wonderful week end
Jim
No Jim, you' re being obstinate. No, you' re not talking to me but we just had this discussion about adding to the Word of God and if you do not begin a personal study on this matter you will be, solely responsible for your end. In the Leviticus passage, I believe it is that God promised no being would suffer worse than the man that adds or subtracts from His Word and, brother, there is no scripture address that applies to your teaching.

Rollo and I are not 100% in sync with our Belief Structure but I' ll bet there is nothing that is not worthy of agreeing to disagree until we reach Heaven. What you are pushing here is similar, not as dangerous, but it is just as dangerous as the Jim Jones teaching to drink the Kool Aide. You keep pressing here but this is a heresy I have tried the brotherly approach but you need to stop this and begin teaching from the scriptures. I have already demonstrated your error and it is likely that Rollo is about to do the same bece he is grounded in the Word of God.
 
Well Brother Taylor I thank you for your opinion and advice. I am sorry you are so sure of what you acuseme of.
It is so nice to hear from you brother..
Be blessed and have a wonderful day
Jim, P.S kool aid is not good to drink !
 
Thanks Bill for understanding. I thank you all for your prayers and will take your advice to share and ask questions. I am very thankful to you all for allowing me to be here, and to learn to be apart! My life is fully committed to Christ, and learning His ways and more importantly walking just like Jesus walked. I see so many people out in the world who are lost and i know that God's heart weeps over every lost and prodigal person, and over every person who has toil on this earth, in their life. I thank God every night for being so patient with me, because i know that He desires no man to perish!
I have a great respect for all of you who have put your time in studying the Word, and living in such a way that Christ is clearly seen in your lives and your intimate relationship with the Father is evident, and i really appreciate what God has done in all of your lives.
To be able to hear (ok read) the Wonderful testimonies of God working through all of you, to reach, and heal and whatever the case may be, is just really exciting! It really causes my Faith to grow stronger, and my trust in God's Wonderful Love and goodness for us all to be strengthened. Knowing you all really encourages my own Walk that God has called me to.
I pray that The Lord Bless you all and keep you
Make His face to shine upon you, and be gracious unto you
The Lord look on you all with favor, and bring you peace! Blessings
Like Paul taught I just request one consideration of you Before you believe anything i or any other says, make them reference their words with scripture, pray for the Holy Spirit that has indwelt you to trouble your heart when you study to find the truth. Be it me or be it anyone else, eve the Pastor in your Local Church, can be wrong.

Much of what i have learned is a result of being called down by others also study with me. Just pelase be like the Bereans and check every teacher. I have notebooks all over my room from from taking notes in Sunday School and during the service. If you write it down it sticks better abd you hthe scriptures noted to test the message with.

I'm old now and I'll just have to treat you like my baby girl. My daughter and my granddaughter like that about me. God bless you youngster.
 
Jim,
John 1:1-5 is on of most quoted passages of scripture and it does not teach one single thing about DNA in God, heck, humans are created just a little lower than than God and this passage says nothing about anyone' s DNA.
 
Brother how about somjetin
Jim,
John 1:1-5 is on of most quoted passages of scripture and it does not teach one single thing about DNA in God, heck, humans are created just a little lower than than God and this passage says nothing about anyone' s DNA.
What is dna brother ? think about that. I am not here to argue my points or force any one to except them.
Again I am sorry this bothers you so much.
 
Brother how about somjetin

What is dna brother ? think about that. I am not here to argue my points or force any one to except them.
Again I am sorry this bothers you so much.
  • DNA is the blue print for every Carbon Based Critter know to exist. Carbon based means physically present in this dominion and incapable of entry into the present dominion of Heaven. The only possible entry of Carbon Based Beings in Eternity would be when Jesus calls the dead out of their graves and the few living Christians into Heaven for the Wedding Celabration and to be honest, I do not see that as being because the Bible describes the event as, dead or alive, we get the Glorified Body. It say7 we will be "translated" in an instant, as I recall it.
  • Everybody that has studied knows the until Adam Sinned he and Eve were perfect but the moment they sinned, knowing right from wrong was not the only change, they, suddenly, had bodies that were no longer Spiritually Alive. They were not created to die but to live forever meaning that the Gen. 3 account of their "Fall" was, exactly as God said, they died.
  • I don't know when man had DNA because God has not included that information in the scriptures and with it not being included, I am not willing to spend Eternity on the worst level of suffering and that is what God has promised.
  • This link shows the address and the words of about a hundred verses telling us not to add to the Bible. http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Bible-Verses-About-Adding-to-the-Bible/
  • Please study this study and rejoice in the wisdom of the LORD.
 
Rollo Hello,
So you assume what I said was bringing God down to the level of His creation. So you are a kind of the glass is half empty type of person. Cool, but that was not said or even applied here. We are made in the image of God and He places His spirit in us. So He is lifting us up unto a higher level in Him. To say God has no dna is kind of like saying God has no personality, or traits or being....My point is valid to those who seek a deeper revelation into GOD AND Who He is.

If you dont think this is true then show me please.
Thank You and have a wonderful week end
Jim
Dear Jim, I found your answer here to be insulting and sarcastic.
If you thought my response was the same, then I apologize.
But responding in such manner does not lead me to a closer relationship with our Creator.
 
The true power of the cross: When Jesus was beaten, tormented, scourged, and nailed to the cross, blood poured from His back, head, hands, and feet; and He was also pierced in His side. Each place from which His blood flowed is significant because it represents a unique aspect of our deliverance.

His back, which endured the stripes needed to bring about our healing...and with his stripes we are healed” (Isaiah 53:5)

His head
, which bore the crown of thorns. The blood that flowed from His head served as payment for our deliverance from every curse...When Adam sinned in the Garden of Eden, all of mankind was cursed (Genesis 3:17-18).

His hands
, which were nailed to the cross...When Adam disobeyed God in the Garden of Eden, he caused a curse to come upon all mankind, as well as the ground (Genesis 3:17, 18).

The hands are a symbol of our economic strength and capability (Genesis 43:12). God blesses the work of our hands (Deuteronomy 28:8-12, Deuteronomy 12:7, 8). The blood that flowed from His hands signified our freedom from the curse of poverty. The blood flow also released the blessing of abundant life upon Believers.

His feet, which were nailed to the cross...“I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel” (Genesis 3:15).

God established a plan that would ultimately restore the dominion back to mankind. God said that a woman would give birth to a child that would defeat Satan. When Jesus was born, the prophecy was fulfilled. He was born from a woman, defeated Satan, and took the authority from him. Jesus made a way for us to have our sins forgiven and to have eternal life (Colossians 2:13-15, Hebrews 2:14, 15). Jesus returned our dominion and authority back to us (Luke 10:1-19) Jesus shed His precious blood from His feet when He was crucified, giving us dominion over Satan. As His feet were brutally nailed to the cross, a prophetic Word from God was coming to pass. Jesus ultimately defeated Satan and took back the dominion God had given mankind in the Garden of Eden.

His side, which was pierced by a Roman soldier...Thousands of years ago, prophetic messages recorded in the Old Testament gave details of the crucifixion and how Jesus’ blood would be shed (John 19:32-37).

The prophet Zechariah prophesied the “fountain” from which we would be cleansed (Zechariah 13:1). That fountain is referring to the blood and water that flowed from Jesus’ side. Exodus 12:46 prophesied that Jesus’ legs would not be broken during the crucifixion.
The soldiers broke the legs of those who were being crucified to speed up their death. However, Jesus had already died so there was no need to break His legs. The blood and water that flowed from His side represent the cleansing of our sins.
 
Forget it, Jim. You will never get literalists to understand a comparative reference to DNA.
Willie,
I would have thought that by this time you should have known that like most of the Mods here I understand that some passages in scripture are literal, some are parables and some are metaphorical. Jim did not attempt, that I can see, to teach the DNA of God as a parable nor as a metaphor. If he had he had only to point that out at any point before this.

Now, should he proclaim such, I admit, after his defense of it being a literal fact, I will believe he is copping out.
 
Dear Jim, I found your answer here to be insulting and sarcastic.
If you thought my response was the same, then I apologize.
But responding in such manner does not lead me to a closer relationship with our Creator.

Rollo Hello,
I am not sure where you found someting insulting or sarcastic.
If anything I said came across to you as this I apologise but I tell you the truth nothing was ment in that tone.
Have a great week end
 
I have put stars in front of questions and thoughts thanks for your time and research!
"Eugene, post: 1049896, member: 2912"]
A very real fact in the scripture 3 Jn 1:2 “Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth” is that he is not speaking of becoming rich in worldly things.

{Why do you think this, what led you to this conclusion?}

1 Tim 4:10. For, therefore, we both labor and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the savior of all men, specially of those that believe. Repeating (2 Cor 11:30) using the NIV > Paul says, if I must boast, I will boast of the things that show my weakness - It seems the sufferings he endured were counted by him as prosperous to his soul and life. He considered himself to be prospering and healthy only in the context of how his life was prospering in things pertaining to winning Christ. Surely it has to be evident by now that Paul at this time did not possess material wealth or bodily health.

***{Eugene, did Paul ever possess material wealth or bodily health? } my understanding is that Paul said in Phil. 4:12 "i know how to abase, and i know how to abound: everywhere and in all things i am instructed both to be full and to be hungry, both to abound and suffer need " to me that says that God wanted Him to know both sides so that as he ministered, people could identify with him, and would not be able to say "you don't know what your talking about, because you have never walked in my shoes"

God does allow thorns of the flesh such as we read of in: *** {why does God allow thorn in the flesh?}****
2 Cor 12:7 And lest I (Paul) should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure.
2 Cor 12:8 For this thing I besought the Lord thrice, that it might depart from me. ** {What was paul's thorn in the flesh?}
2 Cor 12:9 And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.
2 Cor 12:10 Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in necessities, in persecutions, in distresses for Christ's sake: for when I am weak, then am I strong.

*** {what is the definition of Grace and why would God tell Paul "my Grace is sufficient for thee"?}

So may i ask another question? Are we to walk in Paul's footsteps of Jesus' ?
And what are your thoughts on John 14:12 "verily, verily, i say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto the Father."

Thanks again for your response
Blessings
Gina
 
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