Bible Study God's sign or mark

[Bob10]

God has HIS mark or sign that identifies HIM.

"Truly My Sabbaths you shall keep: for it is a sign between ME and you....that you may know that I am the Lord that sanctifies you" (Exodus 31:13).

"Jude, the servant of Jesus Christ, and brother of James, to them that are sanctified by God the Father..." (Jude 1).

"...but you are washed, but you are sanctified....in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God" (1Cor. 6:11).

 

[Jay T]

"And hallow my Sabbaths, and they shall be a 'sign'...between me and you...that YOU...may know...that I AM the LORD your GOD", (Ezekiel 20:20).

The Christian should understand that God never changes !

The Christian does not keep the 7th day Sabbath 'to be' saved....they are to keep it, 'because' they are saved.

 

[Bob10]

the protesting daughters

Perhaps the "mark of the Beast" is the counterfeit mark: Sunday, and the rest of the pagan holy days used by the apostate church and her daughters - that came out of her in protest.

 

[Jay T]

Re: the protesting daughters

Perhaps the "mark of the Beast" is the counterfeit mark: Sunday, and the rest of the pagan holy days used by the apostate church and her daughters - that came out of her in protest.

You know....I've been thinking about posting a message: "Where are the Protestants" ?

The name protestant has lost it's meaning over time.

The Christian world has simply accepted the errors taught in churches, around the world. Thus the call...to come out of Babylon.
And, the Bible has become a secondary source of faith, which many prefer not to investigate too closely.

Glad to have you here, Bob.

 

[JM]

We see a 'mark' being used in Ezekiel 9: 1 - 11, this is the first instance of a mark being given by God, this first reference sets the precedent. It is not in reference to the Sabbath at all...

Exodus 31:13 is speaking to the Jewish nation and the Sabbath is a sign of that covenant with the Jew.

 

[evanman]

Sunday worship being the "Mark of the beast" is pure Ellen G White.

The actual "Mark" has to do with commerce, a person will be unable to buy or sell without this mark. Seventh Day Adventists and Sabbatarians still buy and sell, as far as i can see!

 

[JM]

Sunday worship being the "Mark of the beast" is pure Ellen G White.

The actual "Mark" has to do with commerce, a person will be unable to buy or sell without this mark. Seventh Day Adventists and Sabbatarians still buy and sell, as far as i can see!

The SDA church teaches that one day worship on Saturday will be against the law... :

 

[Vic C.]

We see a 'mark' being used in Ezekiel 9: 1 - 11, this is the first instance of a mark being given by God, this first reference sets the precedent. It is not in reference to the Sabbath at all...

Exodus 31:13 is speaking to the Jewish nation and the Sabbath is a sign of that covenant with the Jew.

Rats Sco, ya beat me to it. But notice one thing about this verse...

"Exo 31:13 Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you."

He is most definately talking the the Hebrews. 8)

 

[Jay T]

We see a 'mark' being used in Ezekiel 9: 1 - 11, this is the first instance of a mark being given by God, this first reference sets the precedent. It is not in reference to the Sabbath at all...

You are correct.
It is in Ezekiel 20:12,20...that Gods calls the 7th day Sabbath, the 'sign' between himself and his true followers.

Exodus 31:13 is speaking to the Jewish nation and the Sabbath is a sign of that covenant with the Jew.[/quote]Actually.....the 7th day Sabbath was made Holy...2300 years 'before' there ever was an Israelite (Jew).....Genesis 2:2,3.
To say that the 7th day Sabbath is Jewish ...is not scriptural in the least.

And, the Sabbath will be kept for all eternity....by the redeemed people from this earth, (Isaiah 66:22,23).
Continuing the God's Holy Day, that God has set in this world.

 

[Bob10]

sanctified by God

"....that you may know that I am the Lord that sanctifies you" (Exodus 31:13).

"Jude, the servant of Jesus Christ, and brother of James, to them that are sanctified by God the Father..." (Jude 1).

"...but you are washed, but you are sanctified....in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God" (1Cor. 6:11).

Whoever is sanctified by God has a duty to keep HIS weekly holy day---"that you may know that I am the Lord that sanctifies you".

 

[evanman]

Sunday worship being the "Mark of the beast" is pure Ellen G White.

The actual "Mark" has to do with commerce, a person will be unable to buy or sell without this mark. Seventh Day Adventists and Sabbatarians still buy and sell, as far as i can see!

The SDA church teaches that one day worship on Saturday will be against the law... :

According to scripture any form of worship other than that of The antichrist will be illegal, regardless of the day of the week it is "done" on!

 

[Bob10]

The actual "Mark" has to do with commerce, a person will be unable to buy or sell without this mark. Seventh Day Adventists and Sabbatarians still buy and sell, as far as i can see!

Ask the Jews if they were allowed to buy and to sell their products and services in Europe during the late 1930's and 1940's - when the Beast power was in charge.

The Beast doesn't have sway over the world yet.

On the subject of certain European states wanting an independent European armed forces ---

Luxembourg Defense Minister Charles Goerens told reporters Monday:

"We will see how the Americans will react," he said, adding that "a little more European emancipation is good thing and in the interests of both sides."

Washington was scornful of plans unveiled shortly after the Iraq war -- by anti-war quartet France, Germany, Belgium and Luxembourg -- for such an EU military planning cell.

 

[evanman]

true the jews were forbidden from trading . Adventists in Germany at the time could still buy and sell.

The AC will ban ALL religions other than his own! He will oppose ALL GODS!!

 

[Jay T]

According to scripture any form of worship other than that of The antichrist will be illegal, regardless of the day of the week it is "done" on!

That is true.
And as scripture points out, the spirit of Anti-Christ is already in the world, and has been since the days of the Apostle Paul.

And Sunday worship services, are just a manifestation of that spririt of Anti-Christ, since Sunday worship services are not scriptural.

 

[Bob10]

if there was a change from Saturday to Sunday in the NT, it would have had to be discussed at some length. But no one in the NT even brings that idea up.

 

[evanman]

Why can't we have gatherings on every day--didn't the first followers of jesus meet daily?

Ac 2:46 And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,
Ac 5:42 And daily in the temple, and in every house, they ceased not to teach and preach Jesus Christ.
Heb 3:13 But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.

 

[Bob10]

permanent establishment of the Sabbath

Jesus' statement that the "Sabbath was made for MAN†(Mark 2:27-28), presents a glorious and far-reaching maxim for the permanent establishment of the Sabbath and of the true FREEDOM of its observance.

Jesus further explains that HE is Lord even of the Sabbath day, not surely to abolish it -- that truly were a strange lordship, especially just after saying it was made and instituted for MAN -- but to own it, to interpret it, to preside over it and to ennoble it.

Jesus breathed a new air of liberty and love into the Day, giving the Sabbath new life and freedom in His Gospel.

In light of Jesus’ statement, it will be hard to show that the apostle Paul meant the Sabbath day to vanquish away, in regards to the New Testament Church. Even more so if the Sabbath day was more ancient than Judaism and if the Lawgiver Himself said of it when on earth, “The Son of man is Lord even of the Sabbath Dayâ€Â.

 

[evanman]

Every day is God's-

Shabbat is man's day!

Joh 5:18 Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.

 

[Bob10]

Every day is God's-

Not according to God: Isaiah 58:13-14 "......My holy day......."

 

[evanman]

Ps 118:24 This is the day which the LORD hath made; we will rejoice and be glad in it.

As the scripture shows, even Jesus and His disciples broke the Sabbath!