Gospel & Law

[Drew]

Do you NOT proclaim to TOSS ALL LAWS of the O.T?

That is certainly your cry in nearly every post you make.

I accept ALL of Gods Words.

Its not that simple. Doc S is correct in asserting that the Law of Moses has come to an end. Paul is really quite clear about this in a number of places, so I am not sure how anybody can hold to the position that the written code of the Law of Moses is still in force. Here in Ephesians 2, Paul clearly asserts the end of the written code of the Law of Moses:

For he himself is our peace, who has made the two one and has destroyed the barrier, the dividing wall of hostility, by abolishing in his flesh the law with its commandments and regulations.

 

[Elijah674]

Its not that simple. Doc S is correct in asserting that the Law of Moses has come to an end. Paul is really quite clear about this in a number of places, so I am not sure how anybody can hold to the position that the written code of the Law of Moses is still in force. Here in Ephesians 2, Paul clearly asserts the end of the written code of the Law of Moses:

For he himself is our peace, who has made the two one and has destroyed the barrier, the dividing wall of hostility, by abolishing in his flesh the law with its commandments and regulations.

I know of NO one yet, that has even hinted to such??
Surely not me!

And Doc's posts??? 'i' doubt that he even knows what Moses law's were??

--Elijah

 

[Strangelove]

Eat as much PORK as you like.

TRANSGRESSER!!!

He's nullified the law!

LAW TOSSER!!! >>>>>>>> STONE HIM!!

 

[Strangelove]

And Doc's posts??? 'i' doubt that he even knows what Moses law's were??

Why would I need to? I'm a Christian. I follow Jesus' commandments not Moses' law. :shocked!.

Can I have a list of all the laws that you kept to God's perfect standard last week please Elijah?

Every single one please. And remember if you break one, you break them ALL.

-- Doc.

 

[Drew]

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[Strangelove]

deleted own post.

If your post had "God" in it then you are a...

TRANSGRESSER!! STONE HIM!! He deleted GODS NAME!!

 

[smaller]

TRANSGRESSER!!!

He's nullified the law!

LAW TOSSER!!! >>>>>>>> STONE HIM!!

As stated prior, you will never understand what you throw away.

Mark 7:18
And he saith unto them, Are ye so without understanding also? Do ye not perceive, that whatsoever thing from without entereth into the man, it cannot defile him;

IF however you THINK it's a SIN to eat pork, then it IS A SIN...to YOU.

Romans 14:
14 I know, and am persuaded by the Lord Jesus, that there is nothing unclean of itself: but to him that esteemeth any thing to be unclean, to him it is unclean.

Romans 7:14
For we know that the law is spiritual:

As you show however, SOME just can NOT see it that way, nor will they be allowed to see.

enjoy!

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[smaller]

Its not that simple. Doc S is correct in asserting that the Law of Moses has come to an end. Paul is really quite clear about this in a number of places, so I am not sure how anybody can hold to the position that the written code of the Law of Moses is still in force. Here in Ephesians 2, Paul clearly asserts the end of the written code of the Law of Moses:

For he himself is our peace, who has made the two one and has destroyed the barrier, the dividing wall of hostility, by abolishing in his flesh the law with its commandments and regulations.

Romans 7:14
For we know that the law is spiritual:

The carnal ordinance proves SIN in SINFUL flesh.

Once a person bows to that FACT, they will be led of The Spirit into the SPIRITUAL MATTERS of ALL LAWs.

Those who throw away the LAW remain BLINDED by the operations of that LAW.

enjoy!

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[Strangelove]

Mornin' Smaller!

 

[smaller]

Mornin' Smaller!

Mornin!

May the LIGHT of ALL GODS WORDS shine upon you!

s

 

[Strangelove]

Mornin!

May the LIGHT of ALL GODS WORDS shine upon you!

s

Thanks buddy!

How's your in-dwelling Antichrist levels today?

Low? Medium? High?

Are you lurking in darkness today or shining bright?

 

[smaller]

Thanks buddy!

How's your in-dwelling Antichrist levels today?

Low? Medium? High?

Are you lurking in darkness today or shining bright?

I have nothing to fear from Gods Words. You?

 

[Strangelove]

I have nothing to fear from Gods Words. You?

Nope.

Can we agree that the law was fulfilled in Christ? That we're not bound by the law and condemned to its penalties?

hmmm? Pretty please? Can we agree that the law was not nullified but it did meet it's goal in Christ?

Can we say we're no longer required to observe the ceremonial aspects of the law? The non-moral aspects? For they are not related to Christs commandments of love?

2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of
an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
2:17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.​

Or am I a (law) tosser for saying that? Lolz.

 

[smaller]

Nope.

Can we agree that the law was fulfilled in Christ? That we're not bound by the law and condemned to its penalties?

No SIN or EVIL is authorized UNDER GRACE, period. That never happened and never will happen.

All transgression of LAW is SIN. The Law, the scripture has concluded ALL are UNDER SIN.

This fact of sin REMAINS in the flesh of all, even believers.

So no, God did NOT authorize or condone EVIL or SIN in any person, period.

But as we have discussed, there is more than 'just man alone' involved with sin. You may not 'personally like' the conclusion of scriptures, but SIN is in fact OF THE DEVIL who will NEVER be obedient to LAW or UNDER GRACE.

hmmm? Pretty please? Can we agree that the law was not nullified but it did meet it's goal in Christ?

If you are asking me to authorize SIN or EVIL under Grace, my answer will be the same as God in Christ....

NEVER! EVER! That never happened and NEVER WILL.

Jesus CONDEMNED ALL SIN IN SINFUL FLESH, period, end of conversation. Jesus did NOT throw out THE LAW that PROVES SIN in ALL. That NEVER happened either, as much as you'd LIKE THAT to be the case.

Can we say we're no longer required to observe the ceremonial aspects of the law? The non-moral aspects? For they are not related to Christs commandments of love?

I have stated many times that the LAW is the instrument that PROVES the existence of SIN in ALL flesh except for God in Christ.

No flesh shall be justified as LAWFUL under the LAW, but as believers we MUST take the factual conclusions of THAT LAW to find our way TO TRUTH.

The Law is both our schoolmaster AND OUR KILLER, as it was EVER meant to be BY GOD....from the beginning.

The letter of death was ALWAYS MEANT TO KILL. Kill it does and KILL it will continue to do.

Any who believe they can achieve SINLESS PERFECTION by the performance of CARNAL COMMANDS are, sorry, hypocrites and liars.

The Law was given so that we could see WITHIN our hearts and find therein EVIL PRESENT.

Even more, that same LAW still works to AROUSE and EMPOWER that working unto FINAL WRATH.

2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of
an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
2:17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.​

Or am I a (law) tosser for saying that? Lolz.

I judge NO MAN. All judgment has been given to THE SON.

enjoy!

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[Strangelove]

Nope.

Can we agree that the law was fulfilled in Christ? That we're not bound by the law and condemned to its penalties?

hmmm? Pretty please? Can we agree that the law was not nullified but it did meet it's goal in Christ?

Can we say we're no longer required to observe the ceremonial aspects of the law? The non-moral aspects? For they are not related to Christs commandments of love?

2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of
an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
2:17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.​

Or am I a (law) tosser for saying that? Lolz.

Does anyone else think that with these words I am AUTHORIZING SIN?

LOLZ!

Honestly smaller you are just.......................

Can we agree that the Earth is a sphere?

Can you have a word with your Satan within and ask him to tone down the misrepresenting peoples position thing?

 

[Elijah674]

NO. Fullfilled means that Christ lived a sinless life. He came as the second Adam who had sinned. It was not only to redeem fallen man, but to PROVE to the Universe that Adam + Lucifer were not a Flawed CREATION of theirs! Also it (sin James 1:15) needed to run its course so as the Godhead would be seen justified in the Final Execution of satan + all sinners. Obad. 1:16

Even through His Vineyard of Isaiah 5:4!! NOTHING MORE COULD BE DONE THAN WAS DONE! What change have you seen in the Rev. 17:1-5 ones for the last 120 + years?? (See Gen. 6:3)

And your question? That was very personal, but seeing that you did ask, yes, I agree with the poster that some of your [material] while being knowingly or not, is low grade!

--Elijah

 

[Strangelove]

And your question? That was very personal, but seeing that you did ask, yes, I agree with the poster that some of your [material] while being knowingly or not, is low grade!

--Elijah

Um...nice dodge Elijah. But I'm not letting you of the hook that easily. Come on...your here to teach Christians to keep a bunch of laws. So what are the laws you are talking about?

Lets a have a full list of all the laws you want us to keep. Lets 'av 'em!

Come on I wanna see what I need to do to make the grade!

 

[Elijah674]

Um...nice dodge Elijah. But I'm not letting you of the hook that easily. Come on...your here to teach Christians to keep a bunch of laws. So what are the laws you are talking about?

Lets a have a full list of all the laws you want us to keep. Lets 'av 'em!

Come on I wanna see what I need to do to make the grade!

You go find it! Christ said:

[16] And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
[17] And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

[18] He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,
[19] Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
[20] The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet?

OK: Pay attention! what of the Second Two tables of Stone were these from?

Now Christ goes to the first four's REQUIREMENT!

[21] Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: [and come and follow me.]

[22] But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions.
[23] Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven.
[24] And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

The point is, is that God REQUIRES the COMPLETE PACKAGE! Matt. 10:38 (even note Peter in Luke 22:31-32 had not been converted yet! see the results in Matt. 26:74-75 to the finished product!) But when one is Born Again the 'converted one' knows what Laws are replaced into their heart! 2 Cor. 3:3 + Heb. 10:15-16. (the only ones that God Himself wrote! Isa. 8:20, *Deut. 6:22

--Elijah

 

[Strangelove]

The point is, is that God REQUIRES the COMPLETE PACKAGE! Matt. 10:38 (even note Peter in Luke 22:31-32 had not been converted yet! see the results in Matt. 26:74-75 to the finished product!) But when one is Born Again the 'converted one' knows what Laws are replaced into their heart! 2 Cor. 3:3 + Heb. 10:15-16. (the only ones that God Himself wrote! Isa. 8:20, *Deut. 6:22

--Elijah

Ahhh right ok. I get you now. Thanks for clarifying.

So the laws we need to keep are Christs 2 commandments to love God and love others.

Ok.

Gotcha!

 

[smaller]

Ahhh right ok. I get you now. Thanks for clarifying.

So the laws we need to keep are Christs 2 commandments to love God and love others.

Ok.

Gotcha!

Ah, no. In Elijah's terms, according to his group anyway...you must also NOT EAT PORK and ATTEND CHURCH on Saturday.

Ask him.

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