Gospel & Law

[Strangelove]

Ah, no. In Elijah's terms, according to his group anyway...you must also NOT EAT PORK and ATTEND CHURCH on Saturday.

Ask him.

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HEHEHE I've tried asking him but all I get back is coded Vulcan riddles.

And he's not the only one its hard to get a straight answer off.

 

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HEHEHE I've tried asking him but all I get back is coded Vulcan riddles.

And he's not the only one its hard to get a straight answer off.

As we know giving answers and understanding same ARE two different worlds.

The 'personal reflection' of scripture is an interesting matter.

We can ALL read the same Words but there are factually FEW identical reflections.

There are reasons for why this happens that are depicted in the scriptures, which makes it all the more fun, once seen and perceived from the text.

Some responses are 'typical' and shown in advance as to HOW people WILL reflect from the text, even before they actually do or say ANYTHING.

That's when it's a LOT of just plain old FUN. Faith and the Gospel becomes very 'real' time and proves HIMSELF right before your own eyes.

For example, I put up this scripture:

Luke 4:4
And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That MAN SHALL not LIVE by bread alone, but BY EVERY WORD OF GOD.

And instantly YOU will see visions of LEGALISM dancing in your head, insisting that is what is in those Words.

And Elijah will see visions of NOT EATING PORK and SATURDAY CHURCH requirement.

I see it for the facts of the BOLD WORDS...which are in fact VERY hard to see or to read, yet alone believe and understand.

See how that works?

enjoy!

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[Elijah674]

As we know giving answers and understanding same ARE two different worlds.

The 'personal reflection' of scripture is an interesting matter.

We can ALL read the same Words but there are factually FEW identical reflections.

There are reasons for why this happens that are depicted in the scriptures, which makes it all the more fun, once seen and perceived from the text.

Some responses are 'typical' and shown in advance as to HOW people WILL reflect from the text, even before they actually do or say ANYTHING.

That's when it's a LOT of just plain old FUN. Faith and the Gospel becomes very 'real' time and proves HIMSELF right before your own eyes.

For example, I put up this scripture:

Luke 4:4
And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That MAN SHALL not LIVE by bread alone, but BY EVERY WORD OF GOD.

And instantly YOU will see visions of LEGALISM dancing in your head, insisting that is what is in those Words.

And Elijah will see visions of NOT EATING PORK and SATURDAY CHURCH requirement.

I see it for the facts of the BOLD WORDS...which are in fact VERY hard to see or to read, yet alone believe and understand.

See how that works?

enjoy!

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I did not enjoy your [posted] thinking that you can read my mind for what Matt. 4:4 means to me. That immediately sends up a satanic red flagg thinking that you can read anyones MIND + HEART OF LOVE FOR THEIR MASTER. And young'in, I LOVED & STILL LOVE [ALL OF MY MASTERS WORD] while you were no doubt still in diapers!? (at least the posts attacks, are seen by me as from Heb. 5!)

And If anyone would care to go back several years ago to the dead threads, they will find a thread of how to study Christs Word. I forget the exact title, yet Matt. 4:4 + 2 Tim. 3:16 + Isa. 8-10 were a very larg part of my threads postings!

But, you are right about one thing, Elijah has NO USE FOR LIARS! Rev. 21:25-27

--Elijah

 

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I did not enjoy your [posted] thinking that you can read my mind for what Matt. 4:4 means to me. That immediately sends up a satanic red flagg thinking that you can read anyones MIND + HEART OF LOVE FOR THEIR MASTER.

Just shows you didn't read my post very well. I said the scriptures already show that 'some' try to make their indwelling SIN obey and be legal.

Knock yerself out! If you think it's a SIN to eat pork, then TO YOU it is a sin. I understand that and you are welcome to abstain on my part. You are also welcome to CONDEMN me, even though that is DISALLOWED by the scriptures.

And young'in, I LOVED & STILL LOVE [ALL OF MY MASTERS WORD] while you were no doubt still in diapers!? (at least the posts attacks, are seen by me as from Heb. 5!)

I try to reason with positions, not people. And I had no conversations with you regarding Heb. 5 in any case.

And If anyone would care to go back several years ago to the dead threads, they will find a thread of how to study Christs Word. I forget the exact title, yet Matt. 4:4 + 2 Tim. 3:16 + Isa. 8-10 were a very larg part of my threads postings!

I try to take into consideration that The Word also reflects what is in our OWN HEARTS. Often what is actually WRITTEN bears NO resemblance to the readers reflections on same. This is openly proved here and at every christian posting board. (Heb. 4:12)

But, you are right about one thing, Elijah has NO USE FOR LIARS! Rev. 21:25-27

--Elijah

Let God be true and everyman a LIAR. That's how it works. (Romans 3:4)

Word is PERFECTLY Right. The balance of us are REFLECTORS who have, I hate to tell you this TRUTH, ....IMPERFECT reflections.

enjoy!

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[Elijah674]

Here is one that I dug up from the dead files that I had done a number of years back. The NO LAW [postings] are even more flagrantly active now than back then. And John is Elijah today.

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--How many times does God need to tell me it is FINISHED?--

John here: How many times does God need to tell me that it is FINISHED? I am hearing this over & over in today's life! I guess that I am something like Peter having his 3 time vision & not knowing what it meant?
You know, surely it was plain enough? Well, here is a question to me from another site, see what you think of it?? (with slight alterations)

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Originally posted by paperdots:
John, just how many "finishing" touches are you going to put on this story? On the cross Jesus said "it is finished".

So you are [maybe] a lying "profit"? :D
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OK: What did Christ's Word mean by that is the question to be answered. If it is what you seem to be implying? look at yourself & tell the world that your sins are finished, & are forgiven un/conditionally. (see Mark 2:5-10)

The [plan] of the Eternal Gospel has & had a centerpiece. And that Center/piece was & is Christ. It either had the second Adam taking back what Adam lost from sin, or it did not have Him taking back what Adam lost from sin.

And this is a conditional Covenant & Everlasting Gospel setup! In other words satan still had a 'GOSPEL' boundary where he could not pass! (such as Job) Matthew 4:9-10 finds[NO argument] with satan from the man/Christ about what Adam lost, & who was now in charge over Adams past stewardship of earth.

Christ's faithful 'Obedient life' on earth unto death,FINISHED (consummated) the Eternal Gospel PLAN! But even then, Christ told Mary not to touch him for He had not yet gone back to the Father in heaven. Why did he say that?? Surely there was a reason! He still needed to have [the Fathers approval that the plan had been consummated!] satan was seen finished when the rest of the plan had proved [to the unfallen angels & world what freedom in rebellion had accomplished]. They must have been only awaiting Christ's return & the Father's acceptance and then came the celebration in heaven!!

But even this has to have a [SECOND] time application! See Hebrews 6:6 for the Second Time witness of what sin & satan is all about! It seems that the Godhead makes sure that this history of earth will [forever settle] the sin question throughout [Eternity!] Ecclesiastes 1:9-10 & Ecclesiastes 3:15. See Nahum 1:9!

From the one/time perfect created angel, to the perfectly created Adam who was made [even] a little lower than the angels.. finds that the Godhead were [never at fault]. Christ even came after Adam's 4000 years of 'physical' decay & [Proved or Finished] any question that the Godheads perfect created ones need not to have fallen by having FREE/WILL!! Satan was forever doomed at his killing of Christ! Yet, it is not over for us who are alive yet! And, these Hebrews 13:11 ones are all D-E-A-D [IN THE FAITH]!

Now: If you would get inside the Psalms 77:13 'way of God', you would see that [you] are not finished in anything as of yet. (at least, I hope not! Heb. 6:6)
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Here is one that I dug up from the dead files that I had done a number of years back. The NO LAW [postings] are even more flagrantly active now than back then. And John is Elijah today.
From the one/time perfect created angel, to the perfectly created Adam who was made [even] a little lower than the angels.. finds that the Godhead were [never at fault]. Christ even came after Adam's 4000 years of 'physical' decay & [Proved or Finished] any question that the Godheads perfect created ones need not to have fallen by having FREE/WILL!! Satan was forever doomed at his killing of Christ! Yet, it is not over for us who are alive yet! And, these Hebrews 13:11 ones are all D-E-A-D [IN THE FAITH]!

Now: If you would get inside the Psalms 77:13 'way of God', you would see that [you] are not finished in anything as of yet. (at least, I hope not! Heb. 6:6)
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Well Elijah, a man can get wrapped up in the Law in many ways, either by denial or by attempted performances thereunder.

The Law has proven it's case to me. I have indwelling sin, which same is of the devil. That presence will NEVER do right, act right or be right no matter how much paint I plaster on the outside of my dust body.

I therefore am forced to turn (repent) and turn to LIFE in order to find LIFE.

I have been shown my need for DIVINE MERCY, and that I do ENJOY sharing with ALL.

Yes, the Law still stands and if fully in force for the purposes intended. No man is exempt from the conclusion of scripture, that ALL have sin and have sinned.

The Old Testament is clear. The acceptable sacrifice is A DEAD sacrifice.

The Spirit however has not changed, ever.

enjoy!

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[Elijah674]

Well Elijah, a man can get wrapped up in the Law in many ways, either by denial or by attempted performances thereunder.

The Law has proven it's case to me. I have indwelling sin, which same is of the devil. That presence will NEVER do right, act right or be right no matter how much paint I plaster on the outside of my dust body.

I therefore am forced to turn (repent) and turn to LIFE in order to find LIFE.

I have been shown my need for DIVINE MERCY, and that I do ENJOY sharing with ALL.

Yes, the Law still stands and if fully in force for the purposes intended. No man is exempt from the conclusion of scripture, that ALL have sin and have sinned.

The Old Testament is clear. The acceptable sacrifice is A DEAD sacrifice.

The Spirit however has not changed, ever.

enjoy!

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Elijah here:
Well, did you read about this poster & his understanding of himself??

Join Date Sep 2010 Posts 1,253 Gender Male
Re: Christian Attitudes

5. Dishonest Christians - Those who bear false witness and/or twist others words in order to completely mis-represent their position in order to attack them. This is the worst kind...and constant offenders simply should not be tolerated. ​

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[Strangelove]

Elijah here:
Well, did you read about this poster & his understanding of himself??

Join Date Sep 2010 Posts 1,253 Gender Male
Re: Christian Attitudes

5. Dishonest Christians - Those who bear false witness and/or twist others words in order to completely mis-represent their position in order to attack them. This is the worst kind...and constant offenders simply should not be tolerated.
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Would you like to back up that accusation with some evidence?