Bible Study Great Grace ?

[Eugene]

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The following post is an excerpt of this year’s 2016 Youth Camp teaching of Manifold Grace by Gene Hawkins I am transcribing from six hours of CD’s.

"Php 2:8 Being found in fashion as a man, He humbled himself, He became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross, and that little word “Even” means that the death of the cross has been separated from all other deaths. There is no other death in history that can equal, or that can be in the same category with the death of the cross of Christ. Why? Jesus didn’t die as a good man, He didn’t die as a martyr, Jesus died as the worst sinner that this world has ever known, or ever will know. The reason being, that He represents the sin of every human being that has ever walked this earth, or ever will walk this earth. Christ represented all of them, He died as the worst convict, and criminal, and despicable sinner that ever there was.

Only God gave Him the grace to do that. You and I will never understand what that is. You and I will never understand what Jesus experienced on the cross of Christ. When God poured out all of His wrath against sin, look at some despicable act that we see today, look down in your own heart and tell yourself honestly what you would like to do to the person that was guilty. Multiply that by all of the sins of the world, and you find out what God did when He poured out all of His wrath on Jesus, on Jesus. I say again the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ is not simply the grace that He showed to us, we’re talking about the grace that it took for Him in order to accomplish all of the purpose of God.

And now let us take it one step further as we close this session. I don’t know what battle you may be facing in your life, I don’t know what burden or difficulty that you may be facing in your own experience, but I can tell you this, the same grace that God put in Jesus in order to accomplish His purpose, God will put that same grace in me to endure any difficultly that I may have to go through in my life today. Grace is the key for that kind of a burden."

We are blessed in Christ Jesus.

 

[for_his_glory]

I never looked at it this way it's explained here and makes me think about the darkness of the sixth hour to the ninth hour in Matthew 27:45-51 as the darkness of the sun and the earthquake was just not centered in Jerusalem, but happened in all the world.

Amos chapter 8 gives prophecy of Christ death as being the word that walked amongst us, John 1:1-5, and took all our sin upon Himself and the day will come in the end when the words of the gospels will be silenced forever.

Matthew 27:46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

It's not that God forsook His only begotten son on the cross as Jesus knew He was drinking the cup of His Fathers will, but that Jesus cried out in His anguish of all He had been through from the trial, scourging and being nailed to the cross as He uttered the same words of David in Psalms 22:1 as this was the first time Jesus never heard the voice of God as He was silent before Him while putting all the sins of the world upon Jesus.

 

[Deborah13]

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The following post is an excerpt of this year’s 2016 Youth Camp teaching of Manifold Grace by Gene Hawkins I am transcribing from six hours of CD’s.

"Php 2:8 Being found in fashion as a man, He humbled himself, He became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross, and that little word “Even” means that the death of the cross has been separated from all other deaths. There is no other death in history that can equal, or that can be in the same category with the death of the cross of Christ. Why? Jesus didn’t die as a good man, He didn’t die as a martyr, Jesus died as the worst sinner that this world has ever known, or ever will know. The reason being, that He represents the sin of every human being that has ever walked this earth, or ever will walk this earth. Christ represented all of them, He died as the worst convict, and criminal, and despicable sinner that ever there was.

Only God gave Him the grace to do that. You and I will never understand what that is. You and I will never understand what Jesus experienced on the cross of Christ. When God poured out all of His wrath against sin, look at some despicable act that we see today, look down in your own heart and tell yourself honestly what you would like to do to the person that was guilty. Multiply that by all of the sins of the world, and you find out what God did when He poured out all of His wrath on Jesus, on Jesus. I say again the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ is not simply the grace that He showed to us, we’re talking about the grace that it took for Him in order to accomplish all of the purpose of God.

And now let us take it one step further as we close this session. I don’t know what battle you may be facing in your life, I don’t know what burden or difficulty that you may be facing in your own experience, but I can tell you this, the same grace that God put in Jesus in order to accomplish His purpose, God will put that same grace in me to endure any difficultly that I may have to go through in my life today. Grace is the key for that kind of a burden."

We are blessed in Christ Jesus.

Eugene, I have question because I truly cannot remember....Is there a scripture that says that God poured out His wrath on His Son?

 

[Eugene]

Eugene, I have question because I truly cannot remember....Is there a scripture that says that God poured out His wrath on His Son?

Dear Sister Deborah13, good question. The following scripture shows Moses standing in intercession for Israel to avert wrath, Jesus took the sin of the entire word, taking the wrath we would have had.

Psa 106:23 Therefore he said that he would destroy them, had not Moses his chosen stood before him in the breach, to turn away his wrath, lest he should destroy them.

Rom 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men . . .

I didn’t find a direct verse saying the wrath of God was poured on Jesus, but the concept is certainly manifest.

A sample of Jesus’ sufferings, the result of taking our sin.

Psa 22:1 My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring?

Isa 53:4 Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.

Isa 53:5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

Isa 53:10 Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; He hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.

Isa 53:11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.

Isa 53:12 Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and He was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.

 

[for_his_glory]

I wouldn't say it was God's wrath being poured on His only begotten Son Jesus, but God's purpose of His Son even before the foundation of the world who followed the will of His Father in all righteousness laying down His own life for the love of others that we can have life eternal with Him. Matthew 26:38,39; John 12:27,28

 

[Deborah13]

Dear Sister Deborah13, good question. The following scripture shows Moses standing in intercession for Israel to avert wrath, Jesus took the sin of the entire word, taking the wrath we would have had.

Psa 106:23 Therefore he said that he would destroy them, had not Moses his chosen stood before him in the breach, to turn away his wrath, lest he should destroy them.

Rom 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men . . .

I didn’t find a direct verse saying the wrath of God was poured on Jesus, but the concept is certainly manifest.

A sample of Jesus’ sufferings, the result of taking our sin.

Psa 22:1 My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring?

Isa 53:4 Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.

Isa 53:5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

Isa 53:10 Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; He hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.

Isa 53:11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.

Isa 53:12 Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and He was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.

Thanks Eugene, I wasn't thinking about the Isiah scripture, these scriptures will help.
I have been rethinking some things. Such as the results of sin causing one to suffer, not because God is punishing with His wrath but because it is just natural that evil, sin, can only produce evil and therefore spiritual suffering.
Thanks again, God Bless