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What do you think about Harry Potter? (I don't want a heated argument about this please.) Personally, my dad read them first and loved them and my family soon followed.
 
What do you think about Harry Potter?
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I try not to.... :lol:... kidding. I've never had any interest in him or whatever he's about. His movies look like they are child oriented so needless to say, I'm not a fan. Although, I've heard his movies are like a kids version of Lord of the Rings (which I do like).
 
They're cute... and hilarious. My dad cracks up at something Ron's dad says at the beginning of the second movie. :lol:
 
Mr. Weasley is a highly amusing character.

Personally, I think that Rowling's main strength is her spot-on portrayal of adolescense.
 
I'm sure they're wonderful literary works, however I won't touch them.
 
I know this is a very old thread but it caught my eye...

I certainly wouldn't try to 'prevent' anyone from reading HP books or watching the flicks... I think it would be just plain stupid and an infringement of another's right to choose their own entertainment (so long as it is not harming another)...

However... That said...

While I don't think that anyone and everyone who watches a HP flick is going to run off and become a demon worshipping psychopath - which *rolls eyes* I've heard some (who should know better) claim - I do see the potential that a small number of the total number of viewers/readers will be influenced into thinking that magick is all fluffy, harmless bumpf... any serious practitioner of Magick will tell you that there ARE dangers... *shrugs* hey! I was a pagan (on the Left Hand Path) myself... (you can read a bit more about that at my site - link in my profile)

Now that I am a Christian I feel that it is only right (and a responsibility to - for want of a better term) to warn ppl of the dangers in Magick (both those acknowledged by practitioners) and those defined in Scripture... the old analogy of "If someone was in a burning house would you warn them to get out?" comes in here... yeah I know it's not a 'perfect fit' but few analogies are but I think you see what I'm getting at...

True... Harry Potter makes no mention of the Wiccan Rede, the Sabbats etc etc... but Wicca is not the only form of Witchcraft nor is it even the only form of Neo-Pagan Witchcraft... My old Coven did not practice the Wiccan Rede and in fact 'The Rite of Vengence' was officially accepted into the Coven's 'Book of Shadows'. This was even reflected in the Coven's Motto: "Sic Gorgiamus Alius Subjectatus Nunc" ("We Gladly Devour All those Who Would Subdue Us")...

I personally think much more is made of Harry Potter than is neccessary - others will disagree - but as I said that's my personal view...

But as I said above and I say it again so there is no ambiguity here - and I say this as one who was the High Priest of a Neo-Pagan Coven before coming to Christ... Harry Potter is NOT a 'training manual' designed to intruduce kids to Witchcraft!!!! AND... Reading the books or watching the filns does NOT mean that your child will become a demon worshipping, blood drinking maniac (as I have herad some claim)...

That said...

It does have SOME impact however... in much the same way as TV shows and movies like Charmed, The Craft et al...

When I was High Priest of a Coven here in Western Australia out of every 100 enquiries re Coven membership only a handful were NOT from teenaged girls who wanted to be like Willow from Buffy the Vampire Slayer or Shannon Doherty from Charmed... Yes it is a false view of Wicca and Neo-Pagan Witchcraft and certainly not what my Coven was about... but that's what they were after and to a large extent the likes of $ilver Ravenwolf and Fiona Horne catered for them and lined their pockets with the proceeds...

In much the same way, when Oberon Zell (founder of the Neo-Pagan 'Chucrch of All Worlds') is putting out stuff like this...

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...103-8310467-2099831?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

http://www.greyschool.com/main.asp

To say Harry Potter has NO effect ... well... it kinda rings hollow now-a-days...

I must admit that with Hogwart's being such AGGRESSIVELY protected trademark (HP fan-sites are always being shut down for copyright breaches) old Oberon has been quite clever in his presentation of his Hogwarts 'clone' "School of Wizardry" and - dare I say specific - in his 'target audience'...

Must be really miffed about all that lost income from potential CAW memberships that $ilver Ravenwolf and Fiona Horne nabbed by NOT larfing at those teen girls that liked The Craft and Charmed et al and wanted to be "just like Shannon Doherty"...
 
I like the Harry Potter books because Rowling is a very good writer. I don't believe that its all real, neither I would never practice any magic. But I have read all 6 and have seen all 4 movies... so I see a problem in them, yet I don't...




In Christ,

Kelley :bday:
 
I like the Harry Potter books because Rowling is a very good writer. I don't believe that its all real, neither I would never practice any magic. But I have read all 6 and have seen all 4 movies... so I see a problem in them, yet I don't...




In Christ,

Kelley :bday:
 
This topic has been locked on other message boards as a result of Christians mounting a defense against the book. I won't touch the book.
 
newsboysfan said:
What do you think about Harry Potter? (I don't want a heated argument about this please.) Personally, my dad read them first and loved them and my family soon followed.
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OOh, be careful... Someone might flame you..

I love the books, read all of them and saw the movies. I personally thought the movies were terrible, but that's just me. Ron is hillarious...
 
My 13 year old son loves the Harry Potter books. He is in the Accelerated Reader program at school and made his goal already for 2nd semester from these books alone. Kept him motivated to read.

I have tried watching a couple of the movies but found them to be over my head....lol. Must be a mom thing.
 
This yahoo story must have @ 20 links:-

http://buzz.yahoo.com/buzzlog/69170/ext ... iler-alert

I'd forgotten running out of time when I posted the link, 2 posts above, to our thread @ Wicca: 'a demonic cult of rebellion' says leading author

http://www.christianforums.net/viewtopic.php?t=23738

Just time for a quote or 2..

AgapePress reports that McMahon, co-author of The Seduction of Christianity, says Wicca is a pantheistic cult dedicated to the achievement of spiritual power through nature worship, spells, and rituals. According to the ministry leader, Wicca is one of many such cults around the world -- and they all have a common source.

"They have a common denominator, they have a common idea -- even their rituals are the same. Yet these people have never been connected to one another," he comments.

"There must be an intelligent source that promotes this throughout the world; and the scriptures call him the adversary, the god of this world. It's really Satan." McMahon says many teenagers -- and even professing Christians -- are drawn to Wicca because it offers power and has a rebellious aspect.

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Christian classic, "From Witchcraft To Christ", was by evangelist & ex-Queen of Black Witches Doreen Irvine

Kathi Sharpe, also evangelist & ex-Queen of Black Witches, runs Ex-Witch Ministries @ http://www.ex-witch.org

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See Doreen Irvine's classic 1970s book, 'From Witchcraft To Christ'

She chaired the EU conference of witches & satanists that originally planned the spread of the occult by presenting it as harmless fun in kids' cartoons, films, etc, & by marketting ouija boards, planchettes, etc as toys
& search http://www.ex-witch.org


See Christian TV thread for websites of 12 Christian channels, who will confirm that, thru Doreen, Kathi & others, many high-ranking occultists have been saved & delivered in the Mighty Name of Jesus

http://www.christianforums.net/viewtopic.php?t=24248

Ian
 
Did anyone read the last book?

It had an interesting message...because Harry did not fear death and try to flee from it, it could not defeat him...
 
Abimelech said:
Did anyone read the last book?

It had an interesting message...because Harry did not fear death and try to flee from it, it could not defeat him...
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As a believer in Christ, I do not fear death nor flee from it not because I can on my own, but because Christ has already defeated death.

It is ALL about Christ. Anything that draws our attention away from Christ is not worth it.
 
Abimelech said:
Did anyone read the last book?

It had an interesting message...because Harry did not fear death and try to flee from it, it could not defeat him...
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Yes, I've read all the books and have enjoyed them every bit as much as the Narnia books and find them much more readable that LOTR. I think the story of HP is more comparable to LOTR than to the Narnia books, but while I think Tolkien is a great writer, his style is sometimes very ponderous and archaic. But the themes are very much the same: sacrifical love triumphing over evil, a 'David and Goliath' confrontation between good and evil (Harry and Frodo, small young champions of good, going against powerful dark forces and ultimately triumphing), the fact that while a hero must stand for what he believes in, he needn't stand alone, that loved ones are there to support him and he can turn to those loved ones, which of course brings up loyalty, trust, and honor. Also, while Tolkien always denied that his stories were parables of the evils of Nazism, one cannot read LOTR and fail to see the comparisions. Rowlings also shows the evils of facism and racism in the Potter books as well. Also comparable to LOTR is the fact that we are all faced with choices to either be swallowed by evil or make a stand for good, and that standing for good is going to be tough. As Rowling put it, the difference between choosing what is right over what is easy.

With Narnia and Potter, I like the books much more than the movies, with LOTR, I find the movies to be better than the books. All are great examples of good fantasy literature.

Ian, I've read all the books and I know the basics of Wicca. Why you are including so many posts regarding Wicca in a thread regarding Harry Potter? There is absolutely nothing concerning Wicca in HP. I'm curious, have you read the books?

I've also noticed something about the main charge against HP, that it's luring kids into dangerous occultic practices: While a lot of Christians are assuming that they do, is there proof that it is indeed happening? Is a Potter-inspired surge in the occult a real thing, or just an urban legend? Does anyone have any hard evidence on this?
 
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