Bible Study Holy Spirit

[for_his_glory]

You will not find the word trinity in any Bible, but according to the American Heritage Dictionary it means a group consisting of three closely related members. Trinity, the union of three divine figures, the Father, Son (Jesus) and the Holy Ghost in one Godhead.

Jesus is part of the Godhead and before he ascended to Heaven to sit at the right hand of the Father to make intercession for us he promised his disciples that he would send another comforter that would teach them all things and bring those things back to their remembrance.

Why doesn’t God speak to us the same way he did to his prophets in the Old Testament days, because He has given us His Spirit that dwells in us and teaches us all things God has already spoke. Gods’ spirit spoke to many prophets throughout the Old Testament through pillars of clouds a burning bush a donkey or spoke with visions through dreams. Many fill that God is completely silent and does not speak anymore, but this is wrong as Gods Spirit speaks to us now through his written word as his Spirit inspired those disciples of long ago to write down their witness of the teachings of God.

Those disciples walked with Jesus having a firsthand account of his teachings, but yet had no understanding other than knowing that Jesus was truly sent from God as signs and wonders followed him for confirmation that he truly was of God as no man could do the things Jesus did apart from God. We too have seen those very same signs and wonders that have touched other people’s lives by the Holy Spirit working through others as a witness and testimony of Gods mercy and grace.

God is very much alive and active in our lives today and still speaks to us through his prophets which are his disciples who have given us their accounts of walking with Jesus and being inspired by the Holy Spirit to write their individual accounts so we might also come into that same adoption through baptism of the Holy Spirit to have the mind of Christ for understanding that brings knowledge of the truths of Gods word so we can rightly divide the word of truth.

 

[Chopper]

Good thread Glory Girl. I believe that in most of our daily lives, the Holy Spirit is not thought of very much. We pray to our Heavenly Father, and give credit to Jesus for how things work out by saying, "well praise Jesus." What recognition are we giving to the Holy Spirit Who actually lives inside us?

 

[for_his_glory]

Chopper, you are so right as many do not even know how important the Holy Spirit is to every facet of our walking in Gods Spirit. Everyone, including myself, always says the Holy Spirit has revealed this or that to me, but many do miss the spirit that is speaking to them, 1John 4:1-6. Even I am guilty of this at times when someone who has more Spiritual knowledge than I points it out to me and then I dig even deeper for the truth.

We might not always agree with each other in these forums, but it doesn't mean what one believes is wrong, it's just how one believes by how they hear. We are one body in Christ, but with many interpretations, but our union that makes us one is that of the life, death and resurrection of Christ that we prepare ourselves to be His Bride when He returns as know one knows the day nor the hour that He will come and gather us all together to be with Him forever.

God bless you my friend and am praying for your health issues

 

[Malachi]

What recognition are we giving to the Holy Spirit Who actually lives inside us?

Well, it would appear from Scripture that God the Holy Spirit prefers that we give glory to the Father and the Son, while He remains in the background. At the same time, we pray TO the Father THROUGH the Son and BY the Holy Spirit.

 

[for_his_glory]

Well, it would appear from Scripture that God the Holy Spirit prefers that we give glory to the Father and the Son, while He remains in the background. At the same time, we pray TO the Father THROUGH the Son and BY the Holy Spirit.

Why would God remain in the background when He is the forefront of everything and we are to give glory and honor to His name.
God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. It's all Gods spirit within the Holy Trinity.

 

[Chopper]

Well, it would appear from Scripture that God the Holy Spirit prefers that we give glory to the Father and the Son, while He remains in the background. At the same time, we pray TO the Father THROUGH the Son and BY the Holy Spirit.

Ahh that may be a little rigid. I don't believe that I'm restricted only to talk to the Father. In fact, during the day I talk to Jesus, and after I get up after sleeping the night, I say "Good morning Holy Spirit." He is the one that I feel when I'm full of the Holy Spirit.

 

[Malachi]

Why would God remain in the background when He is the forefront of everything and we are to give glory and honor to His name.

It is not a question of God remaining in the background vs Him being in the forefront, but the functions and ministries within the Godhead. As you will note from Revelation (and other Scriptures) worship is directed to the Father and to the Lamb of God. The Holy Spirit remains in the background. We may not comprehend this, but that's the way it is. Scripture also says that the Head of Christ is God. That does not detract from the Deity of Christ, but reveals how authority is exercised within the Godhead. And one day Christ will hand back the Kingdom of God to the Father.

 

[for_his_glory]

It is not a question of God remaining in the background vs Him being in the forefront, but the functions and ministries within the Godhead. As you will note from Revelation (and other Scriptures) worship is directed to the Father and to the Lamb of God. The Holy Spirit remains in the background. We may not comprehend this, but that's the way it is. Scripture also says that the Head of Christ is God. That does not detract from the Deity of Christ, but reveals how authority is exercised within the Godhead. And one day Christ will hand back the Kingdom of God to the Father.

There is no background especially when it is Gods Spirit that moves through Jesus and the Holy Spirit.

The Spirit of God was made flesh (Jesus) to walk among us teaching us and showing signs and wonders for the people to repent of their evil ways and come back to God. Many came back to God and were made servants worthy to praise him and continue in his works but there were many (Pharisees and Priest) that despised what they were hearing for it came against their laws and traditions and they felt they needed to silence this man, not knowing that it was actually the Spirit of God they were trying to silence, John 1:1-5; 11:45, 46.

The Pharisees and Scribes thought they did away with this man named Jesus, but did not realize that one of the promises God made with Abraham was that he would never leave or forsake his own. Jesus also told his disciples about how he had to go and be with the Father and if they would keep his commandments the Father would give them another comforter that would be with them forever and teach them all things and bring those things back to their remembrance, Genesis 12:1-3; Deuteronomy 4:29-31; John 14:15,16; Acts 2:1-4.

The disciples could not understand with their carnal minds what Jesus was teaching them, but they knew he was a prophet sent from God and accepted the authority and power which he taught with through miracles, signs and wonders. It would not be until the Spirit of God was taken up out of the tomb and revealed to the hearts of those who believed on him that the same Spirit would be sent back down to dwell in the hearts of those who believed, Romans 8:6,7; Acts 1:1-8; Acts 2:1-4.

 

[Jim Parker]

Why doesn’t God speak to us the same way he did to his prophets in the Old Testament days,

Heb 1:1-2 (RSV) In many and various ways God spoke of old to our fathers by the prophets; but in these last days he has spoken to us by a Son, whom he appointed the heir of all things, through whom also he created the world.

 

[for_his_glory]

Heb 1:1-2 (RSV) In many and various ways God spoke of old to our fathers by the prophets; but in these last days he has spoken to us by a Son, whom he appointed the heir of all things, through whom also he created the world.

Please do not cut off parts of what I post to make your point on something that needed no pointing to as the full was as follows:
Why doesn’t God speak to us the same way he did to his prophets in the Old Testament days, because He has given us His Spirit that dwells in us and teaches us all things God has already spoke.

In response to what you have stated, were not the Prophets of the OT our forefathers like Abraham for instance as being the father of faith that found favor in God or even Noah before him who was a man of faith whom God found favor in. What fathers are you speaking of other than the prophets of the OT who God spoke through to help teach us.

 

[Jim Parker]

Please do not cut off parts of what I post to make your point on something that needed no pointing to as the full was as follows:
Why doesn’t God speak to us the same way he did to his prophets in the Old Testament days, because He has given us His Spirit that dwells in us and teaches us all things God has already spoke.

In response to what you have stated, were not the Prophets of the OT our forefathers like Abraham for instance as being the father of faith that found favor in God or even Noah before him who was a man of faith whom God found favor in. What fathers are you speaking of other than the prophets of the OT who God spoke through to help teach us.

You asked a question.
I answered it.
It's ok by me if you don't like the answer.

Here's another answer.
Notice that, in the OT, a prophet spoke when the spirit of the Lord "came upon" him.
In the NT, after Pentecost, the spirit of the Lord is not upon but within the individual.

 

[for_his_glory]

You asked a question.
I answered it.
It's ok by me if you don't like the answer.

I never asked a question, but gave the answer to the first part of my sentence as you cut off the last part of that sentence. Here it is again:
I said: "Why doesn’t God speak to us the same way he did to his prophets in the Old Testament days, because He has given us His Spirit that dwells in us and teaches us all things God has already spoke."

 

[Jim Parker]

I never asked a question, but gave the answer to the first part of my sentence as you cut off the last part of that sentence. Here it is again:
I said: "Why doesn’t God speak to us the same way he did to his prophets in the Old Testament days, because He has given us His Spirit that dwells in us and teaches us all things God has already spoke."

I just edited my answer.
go baaaaaak..................

 

[for_his_glory]

You asked a question.
I answered it.
It's ok by me if you don't like the answer.

Here's another answer.
Notice that, in the OT, a prophet spoke when the spirit of the Lord "came upon" him.
In the NT, after Pentecost, the spirit of the Lord is not upon but within the individual.

I know that and agree, but never ask a question in my OP, but did ask you a question in post #10 What fathers in Hebrews 1:1 are you speaking of other than the prophets of the OT who God spoke through to help teach us. Who were these fathers?

 

[eddif]

John 16:13 KJV
Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

The Hebrews 1:1-3 seems to leave off the Holy Spirit, but wait:
Hebrews 6:4 KJV
For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.

We do not back up if progress has been made.

Hebrews 9:8 KJV
The Holy Ghost this signifying, that the way into the holiest of all was not yet made manifest, while as the first tabernacle was yet standing:

We do not forsake the Law but use it lawfully. We go on to spiritual gifts. Peter called to the Jews:
I Peter 4:11
If any man speak, let him speak as the oracles of God; if any man minister, let him do it as of the ability which God giveth: that God in all things may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom be praise and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

John the Baptist said Jesus would baptize with the Holy Spirit and fire.

Just added scriptures about which you are speaking.

Redneck
eddif

 

[Jim Parker]

I know that and agree, but never ask a question in my OP, but did ask you a question in post #10 What fathers in Hebrews 1:1 are you speaking of other than the prophets of the OT who God spoke through to help teach us. Who were these fathers?

Your post #10 said: "Does mortal have anything to do with the immortal or corruptible have anything to do with in corruptible, no. Are we not the Spiritual kingdom of God now and forever, yes.
Luke 17:20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: 21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you."

With regard to Heb 1:1: "In many and various ways God spoke of old to our fathers by the prophets;"
Those "Fathers" are the ancestors of the Hebrew audience addressed.

 

[for_his_glory]

Your post #10 said: "Does mortal have anything to do with the immortal or corruptible have anything to do with in corruptible, no. Are we not the Spiritual kingdom of God now and forever, yes.
Luke 17:20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: 21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you."

With regard to Heb 1:1: "In many and various ways God spoke of old to our fathers by the prophets;"
Those "Fathers" are the ancestors of the Hebrew audience addressed.

Thank you

 

[Jim Parker]

Thank you

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[for_his_glory]

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of course you know I had to look that up :biggrin................no problem