How many times have you said the sinner's prayer?

[Merry Menagerie]

Repentence is granted by God. Yes it's a process but that has nothing to do with saying the sinner's prayer.

Obviously you can't argue with my logic - oh well.

 

[Soma-Sight]

So we have to take a baptism bath but dont have to repent in prayer....

This once again confirms my theory of "give a hundred men a Bible and get one hundred different theologies!"

 

[Merry Menagerie]

Well you find me the part in the bible that instructs us to repent in the form of prayer and I'll review my stance.

 

[Stejaka]

Obviously you can't argue with my logic - oh well.

When you say something different, I'll be glad to argue with you, but you've got your views, and I've got mine. Neither of us were willing to concede anything, so, sorry to be nice. You people have a cut-throat policy around here.

 

[Merry Menagerie]

I just go by what the bible says - that is all

 

[Stejaka]

I'm fine with going by what the Bible says, but there are some things that need to there to be inferred. Someone on here talked about Jesus' parables. He didn't just come out and say everything straightforward, but left it to us to find what he was saying. If God had meant for everything in the Bible to be taken at face value, and no thought put into what he said, He'd have given us a billion commandments, not just ten, to outline what needs to be done in every situation ever imaginable. But he didn't. Jesus told the Pharises(sp?) and the Sadducees(sp?) to stop nit-picking the law and live by the Spirit of it. If we are told what to do whenever we have a problem, where can the Spirit come in and guide us? And from there, where can faith be grown? Which brings me back to one of my former points: repentence is a humbling process, which involves prayer - the acknowledgment of the wrong doing. We draw closer to God by recognizing we did something wrong, and Him forgiving us, builds our faith that He truely is a loving and caring God. I know, you're going to argue that prayer isn't involved in repentence because the Bible didn't say so. What I want from you is the number of homosexuals you've killed. God said that homosexuals were to be killed, so I want a body count and the average number of stones it takes to kill 'em.

I'm still not seeing why prayer is such a taboo. Anyone care to explain?

Also, just because I disagree with you doesn't mean I'm unable to argue with you.

 

[Merry Menagerie]

But I think its safe to assume that the instructions on how to be saved can be taken at face value right? Surely something as important as salvation would be pretty straight forward.

 

[Merry Menagerie]

I say if someone feels the need to say a repentence prayer for their own piece of mind - I say go for it. But to preach it as a necessity for salvation is wrong! The instructions on salvation are pretty clear, and there was never any instruction about saying a repentance prayer. I say, stick to what the bible actually says about salvation!