How to find the ten kings who destroy Jerusalem

[Shilohsfoal]

Rev 17;16
And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast,these shall hate the whore,and shall make her desolate and naked,and shall eat her flesh,and burn her with fire.

The above verse is speaking of ten kings(countries)who shall destroy Jerusalem which is called by the name of Babylon in the scripture.The question is where do these kings come from and how do we find them?
The answers are in the scriptures themselves.
Babylon is destroyed in REV 16;19, and we see that there are kings of the east whos way is being prepared in
Rev 16;12.
And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphratyes and the water thereof was dried up,that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.

There is our first clue as to where these kings come from.We know the kings just east of Jerusalem would be of our friends in the muslim world and it is logical to think these kings may harbor some resentment toward Jerusalem.After all.The king of Iran has openly sudjested that the Israeli goverment should be wiped off the face of the globe.
So what might the scripture say about Iran which so happens to be on the eastern side of the Euphrates?

Jerimiah 51;11
Make bright the arrows; gather the shields: the LORD hath raised up the spirit of the kings of the Medes: for his device [is] against Babylon, to destroy it; because it [is] the vengeance of the LORD, the vengeance of his temple.




The Medes, (Greek Μῆδοι, from Old Persian ماد Mādai) were an ancient Iranian people[2] who lived in the northwestern portions of present-day Iran

Jerimiah 51;13
O thou that dwelleth upon many waters,abundant in treasures,thine end is come,and the measure of thy covetousness.

 

[johnny botwright]

whats your thoughts if you dont mind me asking, alot of talk about the world being divided up into four zones,

Canda America south America, Europe russia, Africa middle east, Asia ?
does this play into anything you have studied, johnny

 

[Shilohsfoal]

whats your thoughts if you dont mind me asking, alot of talk about the world being divided up into four zones,

Canda America south America, Europe russia, Africa middle east, Asia ?
does this play into anything you have studied, johnny

Its not biblical.

 

[johnny botwright]

I coud see how you think 10 heads countrys could be arab islamic nations , some feel europe , Jerusalem mystery Babylon, some feel Rome, others new york.

youve said in the past the King of the North arrives three years before the Kings of the East,

greeks the west. US came with a force went away returned with a greater force.
and at some stage with great force implying nuclear , US middle East?

i shared on the wake up project, muslum forum, common ground forum,christain input is welcome. mortal one of the moderaters was boasting soon we would see the black flags flying through out the middle east, world.

i said i would not be so sure of this, what does the God of Jacob say about this,

some believe Ezekiel 38/39 speaks of two battles one before Jesus returns and the other after the 1000 years when satan is loosened, and again gathers mog and gog to wage war.

the first battle, Islamic countrys are to mentioned who come up agaisnt Israel from the north,and the slaughter is so great on the mountains of Israel, it takes seven months to bury the dead and cleanse the land.

Mr Mortal the moderater at the wake up project forum, didnt like this those chanting with him, so i was locked out.
so quiet how all these pieces of the puzzel fit, and when, and how events in the middle east unfold, anti christ , the abomination that causes desolation.
nwo world goverment world bank, centralization ect still a bit of a mystery.

Israel and Iran present day collision course?
intrestingly to the kings of the EAST I thought maybe China, who boast a land army of 200.000.000 and their number is 200.000.000 still imperiel, have no regard for Jew, Muslum. Hindu, Budda, Christain, the mongal forces consumed every thing all the way to poland.
others feel this is a demonic force, demons because of what is written, the discription, of the 200.000.000
the Abysis being open, The King of the pit who posses the anti christ. ect,
all to play for. johnny

 

[Shilohsfoal]

I coud see how you think 10 heads countrys could be arab islamic nations , some feel europe , Jerusalem mystery Babylon, some feel Rome, others new york.

youve said in the past the King of the North arrives three years before the Kings of the East,

greeks the west. US came with a force went away returned with a greater force.
and at some stage with great force implying nuclear , US middle East?

i shared on the wake up project, muslum forum, common ground forum,christain input is welcome. mortal one of the moderaters was boasting soon we would see the black flags flying through out the middle east, world.

i said i would not be so sure of this, what does the God of Jacob say about this,

some believe Ezekiel 38/39 speaks of two battles one before Jesus returns and the other after the 1000 years when satan is loosened, and again gathers mog and gog to wage war.

the first battle, Islamic countrys are to mentioned who come up agaisnt Israel from the north,and the slaughter is so great on the mountains of Israel, it takes seven months to bury the dead and cleanse the land.

Mr Mortal the moderater at the wake up project forum, didnt like this those chanting with him, so i was locked out.
so quiet how all these pieces of the puzzel fit, and when, and how events in the middle east unfold, anti christ , the abomination that causes desolation.
nwo world goverment world bank, centralization ect still a bit of a mystery.

Israel and Iran present day collision course?
intrestingly to the kings of the EAST I thought maybe China, who boast a land army of 200.000.000 and their number is 200.000.000 still imperiel, have no regard for Jew, Muslum. Hindu, Budda, Christain, the mongal forces consumed every thing all the way to poland.
others feel this is a demonic force, demons because of what is written, the discription, of the 200.000.000
the Abysis being open, The King of the pit who posses the anti christ. ect,
all to play for. johnny

After the kings of the east destroy the whore the US nuclear umbrella will unfold over the middle east.
Daniel 11;44
But tidings out of the east and out of the north shall trouble him;therefore he shall go forth with great fury to destroy,and utterly to make away many.

Like I said before ,there is no new world order.When the kings of the east push againmst this king he will nuke them all.That is the nuclear umbrella that the US extended to Israel in 2008.This is the agreement the US has with Israel.

 

[johnny botwright]

is there no un or eu g8, are they not biblical, no alliance, middle east alliance, now nato russia also,
asiain alliance, theres already very much a new world order, things have changed much in my life time on the world scene.
The Vaticans medetrainen alliance also ten countrys, ressurecting the old and oringinal roman empire.
with their sights on Jerusalem. these are all illusions then, the head quarters of the eu in brussels not built to look like the tower of babel, no statue out side of a women riding a beast.?

Ezekiel was not shown a simular thing when he was lead through Jerusalem to observe all that was takin place, also behind closed doors,
even the pope called all the religious leaders from every faith,to rome, to bless buddas on the alter ect
all one family, we have planes, world leaders meet, out side of boihemain grove to, without their cloaks on, mock human sacrifice to molach, their fire God, hundred foot owl ect.

The US nuke the middle EAST. so no responce from russia china pakistan?

not forgetting the joker in the pack, North Korea.

so youre also saying the west the us will sit back and do nothing just watch Jerusalems isreals destruction?
you still dont mention this battle in Ezekiel , seven months to bury the dead, from the north, when and where this fits in to the equation.?

God putting a hook through their jaw and leading them to slaughter.

if the king of the north arrives three and a half years before the kings of the east, and is welcomed in Israel,
do israelies think the anti christ is the one they have been waiting for?
not forgetting the madi,
then there are those who precieve islam to be the abomination that causes desolation.?

johnny

 

[Shilohsfoal]

is there no un or eu , are they not biblical, no alliance, middle east alliance, now nato russia also,
asiain alliance, theres already very much a new world order, things have changed much in my life time on the world scene.
The Vaticans medetrainen alliance also ten countrys, ressurecting the old and oringinal roman empire.
with their sights on Jerusalem. these are all illusions then,
even the pope called all the religious leaders from every faith,to rome, to bless buddas on the alter ect
all one family, we have planes, world leaders meet, out side of boihemain grove to, without their cloaks on, mock human sacrifice to molach, their fire God, hundred foot owl ect.

not forgetting the joker in the pack, North Korea.

so youre also saying the west the us will sit back and do nothing just watch Jerusalems isreals destruction?
you still dont mention this battle in Ezekiel , seven months to bury the dead, from the north, when and where this fits in to the equation.?

God putting a hook through their jaw and leading them to slaughter.

johnny

Because that war in Ezekiel is 1000 year after armegedon.1000 Years after Jerusalem had been destroyed.

Ezekiel 38,2
Son of man,set thy face against Gog,the land of Magog,the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal,and prophesy against him.

Rev20;8
And shall go out to decieve the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth,Gog and Magog,to gather them together to battle;the number of whom ia as the sand of the sea.

You need to get you time lines down.This war takes place 1000 years after the saints inherit the promised land.
Unless you think God is going to attempt to destroy Gog and cant get the job done the first time and has to try again 1000 years later.Is that what you think?

 

[johnny botwright]

some feel the first battle is before Jesus returns, seven months to bury the dead, seven years using the weapons for fuel.
these forces come down only from the north?
some believe during this battle the anti christ will be fataly wounded, but will rise again, thus deceiving the isrealies he is the one they have been waiting for. ?


after the final battle at the end of the thousand years. when Jesus has returned. will then mark the end, a new heaven and a new earth?

either way many scholars believe Ezekiel, revelations is talking of two battles. others mention what is written in pslam 83 also.
satan again goes and gathers magog and gog, its satan who wants another show down maybe.?

you mention armegedon who is at Armegedon what is the out come?
i remember reading to about a valley, where the slain are layed. ?

so far you say Iran islamic forces destroy and capture Jerusalem, ? israel?
The US roll up and nuke the middle east? in the mist of all this, when is the anti christ ruling from isreal, as many believe he will, and some believe he is assyrain, not nessarly muslim.?
whose left to fight Armegedon

the whole world goes after the beast and worships the beast and his image, he has every one take his mark, not a world system, then i dont know what is . must be governed. delegated, ect.

johnny

 

[Shilohsfoal]

Ezekiel 38,2
Son of man,set thy face against Gog,the land of Magog,the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal,and prophesy against him.

Rev20;8
And shall go out to decieve the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth,Gog and Magog,to gather them together to battle;the number of whom ia as the sand of the sea.

You need to get you time lines down.This war takes place 1000 years after the saints inherit the promised land.
Unless you think God is going to attempt to destroy Gog and cant get the job done the first time and has to try again 1000 years later.Is that what you think?



If your going to bring this up then answer the question.Do you believe God cant get the job done the first timr and has to try again?Lets try to set these rthings aside one at a time.You bring up alot of questions that pertain to different events and you try to lump them up into one event.Lets just look at this one event that has nothing to do with the title of this thread and then qwe will move on.


DO you or do you not believe God cant get the job done?
Do you believe God will need some rest after he attempts to destroy Gog and will need to build up his strength so that he can try it again 1000 years later?

Do you believe the people who has taught you this?

 

[johnny botwright]

like i said maybe its satan who once again goes out to gather gog and mog, who wants a rematch second shot, show down after he has been released.? widley taught.?
i have put a few questions to your self not testing you, but to gain a clearer understanding how the pieces fit together, end time events unfold, your take on events.

which battles who and when, the out comes ect. the anti christ and israel ect.

the pieces are there its just putting them together in the right order and context. maybe some things are still with held until the appointed time.?

so far the picture remains unclear.

johnny

 

[Shilohsfoal]

like i said its satan who once again goes out to gather gog and mog, who wants a rematch second shot, show down after he has been released.? widley taught.
i have put a few questions to your self not testing you, but to gain a clearer understanding how the pieces fit together, end time events unfold, your take on events.

which battles who and when, the out comes ect. the anti christ and israel ect.

the pieces are there its just putting them together in the right order and context. maybe some things are still with held until the appointed time.?

johnny

There is no second war.The war in Ezekiel is the same war in Revelation.That war takes place 1000 years after the saints have recieved the promised land as thier inheritance.It is those saints who dwell without walls and live in safety without fear.

Ezekiel 38;11
And thou shalt say,I will go up to the land of unwalled villiges;I will go to them that are at rest,that dwell safely,all of them dwelling without walls,and having neither bars nor gates.


Let us use common knowledge here.
Do the people who dwell in the land of Israel today dwell safely without walls?

 

[johnny botwright]

and as mentioned the first battle in Eziekle comes down mainly from the north,? does isreal today have enemys in the north?

certainly surrounded and also to the east.

if you say Iran islamic forces will destroy jerusalem, where does the king of the north and south come in.

whose at armegeddon, and when? what is the out come for Israel, ?

when does the US nuke the middle east, you mention, ?

when does the anti christ rule from jerusalem, has he taken this postion by force, or handed to him?
what forces is he controling milatarly?

where does the madi fit in. ?

the abomination that causes desolation, armies surrounding jerusalem , who is this and when?

when does what is written in pslam 83 come to pass. ?

the kings of the east destroy two thirds of man kind, some say this is talking of spiritual death, im not convinced, kill a third of man kind, so a much wider conflict, global.

so far what you mention centres around isreal, the middle east, islamic israelie conflict.

whats the rest of the world doing, russia china, europe? johnny

 

[Shilohsfoal]

There is no second war.The war in Ezekiel is the same war in Revelation.That war takes place 1000 years after the saints have recieved the promised land as thier inheritance.It is those saints who dwell without walls and live in safety without fear.

Ezekiel 38;11
And thou shalt say,I will go up to the land of unwalled villiges;I will go to them that are at rest,that dwell safely,all of them dwelling without walls,and having neither bars nor gates.


Let us use common knowledge here.
Do the people who dwell in the land of Israel today dwell safely without walls?

Its not a hard question Johnny.I'll give you a hint.The answer has two letters.

 

[johnny botwright]

to me it looks like one battle Ezekiel is talking about, many are living in peace and security at present in Israel, parts are walled but not the whole land, even talks of peace.
peace peace but then comes destruction.

Eziekle 38/39 looks different to the account in revelations 20.7 when satan is loosened after 1000 years and goes out to gather mog and gog again. i could be wrong.

like wise those who teach two battles one before Jesus returns, and the other after the 1000 years, yes there is Armeggedon, but often Ezeikle is reffered to.

no mention in Ezekiel of Jesus having returned ,ruling from Jerusalem.1000 years no reference to this and satan being loosened.?, here God is demostrating to the natons through Israel he his Lord, having gathered them from the nations, back to Israel.

Ezekiel mentions a massive earth quake, nuclear?

intrestingly Ezekiel mentions the land of Magog ? prince of rosh? Meshech and Tubal, Persia, Ethiopia, Gomer Beth- togarmah quiet what nations these are today, ie Turkey syria, ect

among the hordes.

Armageddon revelations 16.13 then satan gathering mog and gog revelations 20.7

though no mention of the 7 months to bury the dead, 7 years using their weapons as fuel ect. ?
does not mention a massive earth quake but fire from heaven?
here Jesus has ruled for a thousand years.?
does God need to demostrate his power to the nations at this time. ?


you feel the two are same battle ie Ezekiel 38/39 ? revelations 20.7 ? you could be right, will make things clearer if you are, another piece in the puzzle in place.
still several im still tryingto see how and where they fit. johnny

 

[Shilohsfoal]

Do the people who dwell in the land of Israel today dwell safely without walls?
Its just a yes or no question johnny.Its not a hard question.

Nowe if you say yes,the people in Israel dwell safely withouit walls then I would like for you to tell me one of thier names please.I would like to write them a letter asking them to explain to me how they dwell safely.Just one .TY

OH PS.
Ive been reading about Israel buildinmg walls to prect themselves from outsiders.
Have you read about these walls johnny?

 

[johnny botwright]

most of us live in relevent peace we go about our daily lives as do people in Israel today, though we are all in range,

terrorism, natural, war, solar or other wise. peace peace, then comes destruction.

does it mean every one is sitting around in deck chairs sunning them selves, cocktail in hand.

like wise some time in the future 1000 years plus gog and magog attacking with bows and arrows spears?
may be?

conspiracys exsist today nations plot agaisnt Israel today as Ezekiel mentions.

the house of Israel from that day forward will know I am the Lord their God,
Ezekiel 39- 21, 29

would they not already know this if Jesus and the saints had ruled there for a thousand years?

speaks to of Israel being gathered from the nations , as if quiet a recent and ongoing event.

johnny

 

[Shilohsfoal]

most of us live in relevent peace we go about our daily lives as do people in Israel today, though we are all in range,

terrorism, natural, war, solar or other wise. peace peace, then comes destruction.

does it mean every one is sitting around in deck chairs sunning them selves, cocktail in hand.

like wise some time in the future 1000 years plus gog and magog attacking with bows and arrows spears?
may be?

conspiracys exsist today nations plot agaisnt Israel today as Ezekiel mentions.

the house of Israel from that day forward will know I am the Lord their God,
Ezekiel 39- 21, 29

would they not already know this if Jesus and the saints had ruled there for a thousand years?

speaks to of Israel being gathered from the nations , as if quiet a recent and ongoing event.

johnny

Israel hast been gatherd from the nations.Jesus gathers Israel when he returns.
Just because the beast calls himself by the name of Israel doesnt make him Israel.

My guess is you dont know what the word Israel means.

 

[johnny botwright]

As i mentioned before with Israel the world, probaly not much has changed from when Ezekiel was lead through Jerusalem and shown all that was taken place, Rothchilds serve lucifer, a big influence in Israel, their new supreme court is like a temple to satan.

The battle Ezekiel mentions 38/39 the motive is spoil, revelations 20.7 satan is loosened the motive may be more about making war agaisnt the Lord, the saints?

so three pieces in your theory Iran captures destroys Jerusalem?
, the US king of the North nukes the middle east.? there is a final battle at the end of the 1000 years, after satan has been bound, then let loose again.

where and who is the king of the south?, whose at armaggedon,? what is the out come?, when does the anti christ rule from isreal?

when will pslam 83 come to pass? what of the madi,? who are the third of man kind slain by the kings of the east.?

who and when does the abomination that causes desolation surround jerusalem? armies. whose armies.

when Jesus returns in great power and glory, Jerusalem is a captured city? by whom? forces of the anti christ?

then driven out?

still alot of blank spaces. johnny

 

[Shilohsfoal]

As i mentioned before with Israel the world, probaly not much has changed from when Ezekiel was lead through Jerusalem and shown all that was taken place, Rothchilds serve lucifer, a big influence in Israel, their new supreme court is like a temple to satan.

The battle Ezekiel mentions 38/39 the motive is spoil, revelations 20.7 satan is loosened the motive may be more about making war agaisnt the Lord, the saints?

so three pieces in your theory Iran captures destroys Jerusalem?
, the US king of the North nukes the middle east.? there is a final battle at the end of the 1000 years, after satan has been bound, then let loose again.

where and who is the king of the south?, whose at armaggedon,? what is the out come?, when does the anti christ rule from isreal?

when will pslam 83 come to pass? what of the madi,? who are the third of man kind slain by the kings of the east.?

who and when does the abomination that causes desolation surround jerusalem? armies. whose armies.

when Jesus returns in great power and glory, Jerusalem is a captured city? by whom? forces of the anti christ?

then driven out?

still alot of blank spaces. johnny

Yes you ask alot of questions about alot of things that you dont know.
But you havnt learned the first thing yet.When does the war Ezekiel spoke of take place?
Have you learned that yet ?

 

[johnny botwright]

do you know the answers to any of the questions ive put to you ? johnny