Hypocritical Media

[Oats]

Why is it that during one set of hours a television will play a vulgar show like family guy, and then at ten o clock they talk about how kids should be more obedient?

I hope you know what I mean


smoking weed is illegal, why then show videos of lil wayne doing so?

they are making money from sin

for shame

 

[jasoncran]

Why is it that during one set of hours a television will play a vulgar show like family guy, and then at ten o clock they talk about how kids should be more obedient?

I hope you know what I mean


smoking weed is illegal, why then show videos of lil wayne doing so?

they are making money from sin

for shame

thats the media for you.take mtv they used to preach safe sex etc.yet look at the shows they run.most of them have illicit sex in them.2

 

[WIP]

they are making money

I think you answered your own question with this part of your question.

 

[Nick]

WIP's right - it's all about money. When safe sex was the "thing", MTV was all about safe sex.
Now apparantly just having sex however you want it, when you want it is cool - thati s now where the money is. If MTV wants to make big bucks (which they do) then they'll promoe this view, as they do with most video clips they show. Lil wayne is only a small part of it.

 

[Sparkey]

Advertising used to be about making a pitch to sell a product. Media conglomerates know that the mystery behind sales involves identity and persuading people to convince themselves. Persuasion, the mysterious art of getting people to do the bidding of others, has evolved beyond what was once a simple appeal to buy something into a complex dance of seduction.

When Coca-cola launched their "Live It" campaign, for example, they hired Lance Armstrong for their posters and billboards. They spent more than $4m on giving "free" stepometers to 5th through 8th graders. The idea that they sold was in part to educators saying that they wanted to help teach kids what healthing living meant. So the freebies were supposed to encourage kids to walk 10,000 steps per day. Now, just wait a sec here. They NEVER said that it would take minimum 3,000 steps to burn off the sugar in just one of their drinks. They hired an athelete to hawk their junk food. The idea was that if you wanted to be healthy (like Lance Armstrong) you too would hydrate with Coke. The company sold the image of health only.

Advertisers spend billions of dollars trying to figure out what the targets of their efforts want. Then they pitch their wares in terms of our deep desires.

Douglas Rushkoff has studied the effects advertising has on children and explains in his book, Coercion: Why We Listen to What They Say, Chaper 5: Advertising, “[t]elevision commercials are stories, too, and they are designed to impress brand values upon us with the force of cultural mythology, securing and extending our most deeply held beliefs.” He went on to state, “Today, the most intensely targeted demographic is the baby —the future consumer. Before an average American child is twenty months old, he can recognize the McDonald's logo and many other branded icons. Nearly everything a toddler encounters—from Band-Aids to underpants —features the trademarked characters of Disney or other marketing empires”

 

[Drew]

Why is it that during one set of hours a television will play a vulgar show like family guy,...

I politely suggest that "Family Guy" is implicitly critiquing the behaviours it represents, not endorsing them. As such, it is arguably the kind of program Christians should be happy to see on TV - if, of course, the viewership "gets the message".

 

[Sparkey]

According to the American Academy of Pediatrics, "Exposure to violence in media, including television, movies, music, and video games, represents a significant risk to the health of children and adolescents." The average American child is exposed to more than 100,000 distinct representations of violence before exiting elementary school.

As Rushkoff writes in his book Coercion, “Big-Business-shaped perspectives can sometimes have a negative effect on a child's entire life: The fresh neurons of young brains are valuable mental real estate to admen. By seeding their products and images early, the marketers can do more than just develop brand recognition; they can literally cultivate a demographic's sensibilities as they are formed. A nine-year-old child who can recognize the Budweiser frogs and recite their slogan (Bud-weis-er) is more likely to start drinking beer than one who can remember only Tony the Tiger yelling, 'They're great!'â€

 

[Oats]

I politely suggest that "Family Guy" is implicitly critiquing the behaviours it represents, not endorsing them. As such, it is arguably the kind of program Christians should be happy to see on TV - if, of course, the viewership "gets the message".

mocking God is not something i'd be happy to see

we need to hold the media accountable for the power in their hands....

it is an idol for us here in america

 

[WIP]

But now you're advocating that we Christians get involved and "force" our ideals upon everyone. I'm being a little sarcastic toward another thread discussing whether Christians should be involved with shaping government policy.

 

[Oats]

But now you're advocating that we Christians get involved and "force" our ideals upon everyone. I'm being a little sarcastic toward another thread discussing whether Christians should be involved with shaping government policy.

i said nothing about Christianity

everyone knows that smoking weed is illegal, Christian or not

everyone know that lil wayne influences kids, Christian or not

secular beliefs are not neutral, they are not default

so when they push them it is like they have an agenda

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The media is wicked and I'll tell anyone that to their face

 

[Drew]

mocking God is not something i'd be happy to see

we need to hold the media accountable for the power in their hands....

it is an idol for us here in america

There is clearly a misunderstanding between us. I would suggest that this program does not mock God - it may have characters in it who "mock God". But the general character of the program is such that I am quite confident that the mocking characters are being critiqued for their mocking, not affirmed for it.

 

[Drew]

But now you're advocating that we Christians get involved and "force" our ideals upon everyone. I'm being a little sarcastic toward another thread discussing whether Christians should be involved with shaping government policy.

Well, I suggest that it is indeed rather clear that Christians should indeed be involved in "shaping government policy". Who would you prefer "shapes" government policy? Secularists? Wiccans? Criminals?

My approach here is intentionally over the top, but I trust the point is clear. Since someone is going to shape government policy - how our society is run - how can we (the church) be true to our mandate (below) if we refuse to be active in all spheres of human activity:

Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. <SUP class=versenum id=en-NIV-24215>19</SUP> Therefore go and make disciples of all nations...

 

[Nick]

I politely suggest that "Family Guy" is implicitly critiquing the behaviours it represents, not endorsing them. As such, it is arguably the kind of program Christians should be happy to see on TV - if, of course, the viewership "gets the message".

Haha. I agree, except when there's the odd episode in Family Guy / South Park where it mocks Jesus. That's where I draw the line.

 

[jasoncran]

there was a comic/movie called heavy metal.my brother and i watched this at the age of 8 and 10. it had porn,violence and drug use.

i believe that sent me down the path to the occult and also porn struggle later on in life. fires start with a spark.

 

[Oats]

At any rate, produce the mass of what we humans experience is a big deal.

If you want to raise your kids correctly you have to montor their television/music/definitely Internet media.

Now of course people are sinful, we are sinful. So I dont expect our inventions to be somehow more righteous than our own limtiations...

But is it bad to hope?

People have the right to bring their kids up according to their own belief system, not the fake one of the corporately biased media.

The cartoons have gotten worse, people tell their kids not to punch other kids in the face, then they let their kids watch violent shows, kids are a huge responsibility, and the media has a part of it

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thoughts?

all things considered the media is no better than westboro baptist church

 

[jasoncran]

i cut off ALL tv in 2009. i watch the old shows on hulu.com or reruns via dvd.