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I am a jewish teen who is interested in learning about Jesus

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I am very curious, I have been jewish all my life, but I am always open to new ideas, and open to learning I love learning about everything and right now I have an interest in learning about the other faiths of this world.
 
goat400040 said:
I am very curious, I have been jewish all my life, but I am always open to new ideas, and open to learning I love learning about everything and right now I have an interest in learning about the other faiths of this world.

Hi... :wave

I advise you to start reading about Jesus in the New Testament in the Holy Bible (preferably KJV)..
In this series of books you will read about important testimonies of Jesus' disciples... ;)

Many Jews are believers in Jesus as their Messiah and the first large group of Jesus' followers were Jews.
As the Jews were God's chosen people who followed God under His laws through covenants, Jesus came to make a new covenant, this one is for everyone not just Jewish people and salvation is attained through this new covenant with God our creator.
You also have something in common with Jesus......he was a Jew too! :yes
Have a read up about Him and I'm sure you will realise the importance of who Jesus was/is and what His death on the cross signifies..
 
Steve76 said:
goat400040 said:
I am very curious, I have been jewish all my life, but I am always open to new ideas, and open to learning I love learning about everything and right now I have an interest in learning about the other faiths of this world.

Hi... :wave

I advise you to start reading about Jesus in the New Testament in the Holy Bible (preferably KJV)..
In this series of books you will read about important testimonies of Jesus' disciples... ;)

Many Jews are believers in Jesus as their Messiah and the first large group of Jesus' followers were Jews.
As the Jews were God's chosen people who followed God under His laws through covenants, Jesus came to make a new covenant, this one is for everyone not just Jewish people and salvation is attained through this new covenant with God our creator.
You also have something in common with Jesus......he was a Jew too! :yes
Have a read up about Him and I'm sure you will realise the importance of who Jesus was/is and what His death on the cross signifies..
I have read up on him previously and have talked to christian friends about this I guess the real question is what do I do next? Can I talk to someone my age if anybody is on here I am around college age who was jewish or is jewish and accepted jesus during their teens with both jewish parents, I actually want to learn about how to become a christian, but I still have some unsure thoughts going on and would like to talk to someone who has gone through a similar expirience
 
goat400040 said:
Steve76 said:
goat400040 said:
I am very curious, I have been jewish all my life, but I am always open to new ideas, and open to learning I love learning about everything and right now I have an interest in learning about the other faiths of this world.

Hi... :wave

I advise you to start reading about Jesus in the New Testament in the Holy Bible (preferably KJV)..
In this series of books you will read about important testimonies of Jesus' disciples... ;)

Many Jews are believers in Jesus as their Messiah and the first large group of Jesus' followers were Jews.
As the Jews were God's chosen people who followed God under His laws through covenants, Jesus came to make a new covenant, this one is for everyone not just Jewish people and salvation is attained through this new covenant with God our creator.
You also have something in common with Jesus......he was a Jew too! :yes
Have a read up about Him and I'm sure you will realise the importance of who Jesus was/is and what His death on the cross signifies..
I have read up on him previously and have talked to christian friends about this I guess the real question is what do I do next? Can I talk to someone my age if anybody is on here I am around college age who was jewish or is jewish and accepted jesus during their teens with both jewish parents, I actually want to learn about how to become a christian, but I still have some unsure thoughts going on and would like to talk to someone who has gone through a similar expirience

Well, the best One to talk to would be Jesus Himself. :) If He is real , He will answer you. Ask and wait.......

C
 
goat400040 said:
I am very curious, I have been jewish all my life, but I am always open to new ideas, and open to learning I love learning about everything and right now I have an interest in learning about the other faiths of this world.
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http://hebrewcatholic.org/

 
TheCatholic said:
goat400040 said:
I am very curious, I have been jewish all my life, but I am always open to new ideas, and open to learning I love learning about everything and right now I have an interest in learning about the other faiths of this world.
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http://hebrewcatholic.org/



This is more confusion. In Christ there are neither Hebrews nor Catholics. Christians are a new creation...of another order that defies catagorization along sectarian lines. Ignore sectarian salesmen such as this who would sidetrack men from the path that leads to God in Christ. Follow Christ not men. :yes
 
Read the Bible I would read 1 John first, then read the Gospels. Be careful of seeking advice from people who believe their church or denomination is greater than Christ. Christ, the son of God, died for our sins and it is through our belief in Him and trust in him alone that we find our salvation. It had nothing to do with anyone in else. You can learn about Christianity and how man through his greed lead many down a path of destruction, but your salvation comes through the belief in Jesus Christ the son of God alone. Seek him first.
 
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goat400040 hasn't replied to any PM's so I checked and he hasn't been here in a week. :shrug
I hope he found what he was looking for. :pray

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TheCatholic said:
Adullam said:
This is more confusion.....

It is YOU who are confudsed, due to your false perception of Christianity

Your answer like that will only turn people off, and set a bad example of Christians, and lead people away from Christ. I know that tradition is strong and difficult to break away from, but we MUST point people to Jesus Christ and the Bible.

Jesus IS the ONLY way to heaven. There is NO other way ... not the church(es), priest, pastor, confession to people, becoming a member of a church, memorizing anything, or whatever.

Salvation is a FREE GIFT from God, not from any person or church. Not by works, lest anyone should boast ...

Ephesians 2:8-9

8For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9not by works, so that no one can boast.

Believe in Jesus Christ, confess your sins to Him, believe in your heart that Jesus is who He said he is, the Savior, and the only way to heaven. Confess Him with your mouth, as the scriptures tell us to do, and believe that Jesus rose from the dead, and lives forevermore, and will return someday.

Romans 10:9-10

9That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved.
 
goat400040 said:
I am very curious, I have been jewish all my life, but I am always open to new ideas, and open to learning I love learning about everything and right now I have an interest in learning about the other faiths of this world.

Have you spoken to anyone involved in the Messianic Jewish group movement?

This is an interesting group. Basically Jews who have accepted Christ. You might ask, wouldn't that make them Christians? Answer yes, but from what I can tell they hold to certain Jewish traditions. Most Jewish groups say otherwise.

I came across this group at a local Art fair near where I live. They had a booth with a large banner that said "What do you believe?", and on each side of that question was the star of David. Interesting.
 
Hi,

Yeshua obeyed the whole Torah, He didn't abolish the Torah, He fillful it. He observed shabbat and keep kosher and celebrate the feasts. He is the Messiah and He is G-d.

Joh 8:19 "Where is your father?" they asked him. "You know neither me nor my Father," Yeshua answered. "If you knew me, you would know my Father also."

Joh 10:30 The Father and I are one."

Joh 14:9 Jesus answered, "For a long time I have been with you all; yet you do not know me, Philip? Whoever has seen me has seen the Father. Why, then, do you say, 'Show us the Father'?
 
goat400040 said:
I am very curious, I have been jewish all my life, but I am always open to new ideas, and open to learning I love learning about everything and right now I have an interest in learning about the other faiths of this world.
Speak to an evangelical pastor. The closest to come to what you already believe, are the Seventh Day Adventists. You can go to their board here, if there is one, or you can pick up your phone book and look for one of their churches near you. Let us know what you learn.
 
Contacting a Messianic Jewish congregation should be your first step. Iin the process please read the New Teatament and prayerfully ask Yeshua for guidance. As an active "bridgebuilder" between Messianic Jews and Christians I've met numerous Jewish people who the Lord has reached in a supernatural manner. The response comes in a variety of ways, but your soul will sense when this happens, and the angels rejoice!
 
I am very curious, I have been jewish all my life, but I am always open to new ideas, and open to learning I love learning about everything and right now I have an interest in learning about the other faiths of this world.

Hi,

Being Jewish means you are of the House of Israel either by blood or by adoption. Jesus, the Messiah was the same God that brought Israel from Egypt and established Israel in Palestine in ancient times. That same God said that He would come to earth one day to redeem His people from their sins. He came in Herodes times but wicked people killed Him. Before He was killed though, He organized the Kingdom of God once more. From righteous Israelites of the time He called 12 Apostles that represented the 12 tribes of Israel. He ordained them, giving them the higher priesthood to govern the affairs of the Kingdom of God on earth and told them to go and spread the good news. He said that anyone that repented of their sins could become part of the true Israel, which is the Kingdom of God.

However, wicked people rejected and infiltrated into the church and destroyed it from within. All the Apostles were killed and the church organized by the Messiah Himself was dispersed and ceased to exist.

But the Messiah, the Apostles and Ancient Prophets of the Torah have said that there would be a restoration of all those things in our days. I am here to tell you that the true Kingdom of God has been restored today and that Israel Is being gathered again.

The time is approaching that all the righteous men and women of the earth will be adopted into the 12 tribes of Israel. There will be one whole House of Israel again made up only of righteous people including Jews and descendants of other tribes along with all the righteous people of the world. The temple in Jerusalem will be rebuilt and that Spiritual Israel will rule the world.

If you want to know more about this send me a private message I will show you where to go to obtain that information. In the meantime pray to the Most High God in the name of the Messiah and ask Him to know if what I am saying is true. If you pray with all sincerity of your heart, with real intent, He will show you.

We all should remember that it doesn't matter the blood that runs in our veins, be it Jewish or gentile, if we don't seek to be truly righteous before God we are not His people at all.

Shalom
mamre
 
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The coming of the Messiah was also prophesied in a time sensitive manner. Daniel 9 alone--which coincides with the coming of Yeshua ha Notzri is hard to explain away. If the Messiah has not come, according to the timing of the prophets, then the scriptures are broken and vain. We know this is not the case. Here are some examples: (Thanks to evidence that demands a verdict)

Chapter 9 p. 5: The Messianic Prophecies of the Old Testament Fulfilled in Jesus Christ

PROPHECIES FULFILLED CONFIRM JESUS AS THE MESSIAH, THE CHRIST, THE SON OF GOD

Objection: Fulfilled Prophecy in Jesus Was Deliberate

Answer: The above objection might seem plausible until we realize that many of the prophecies concerning the Messiah were totally beyond the human control of Jesus, such as -

1. Place of birth (Micah 5:2).
2. Time of birth (Daniel 9:25; Genesis 49:10).
3. Manner of birth (Isaiah 7:14).
4. Betrayal.
5. Manner of death (Psalms 22:16).
6. People's reactions (mocking, spitting, staring, etc.).
7. Piercing.
8. Burial.

Objection: Fulfilled Prophecy in Jesus Was Coincidental, an Accident

"Why, you could find some of these prophecies fulfilled in Kennedy, King, Nasser, etc.," replies the critic.

Answer: Yes, one could possible find one or two prophecies fulfilled in other men, but not all 61 major prophecies! In face, if you can find someone, other than Jesus, either living or dead, who can fulfill only half of the predictions concerning Messiah which are given in Messiah in Both Testaments by Fred John Meldau, the Christian Victory Publishing Company of Denver is ready to give you a $1,000 reward. There are a lot of men in the universities who could use some extra cash!

H. Harold Hartzler, of the American Scientific Affiliation, Goshen College, in the foreword of Stoner's book writes: "The manuscript for Science Speaks has been carefully reviewed by a committee of the American Scientific Affiliation members and by the Executive Council of the same group and has been found, in general, to be dependable and accurate in regard to the scientific material presented. The mathematical analysis included is based upon principles of probability which are thoroughly sound and Professor Stoner has applied these principles in a proper and convincing way."

The following probabilities are taken from Peter Stoner in Science Speaks to show that coincidence is ruled out by the science of probability. Stoner ways that by using the modern science of probability in reference to eight prophecies (1 - No. 10; 2 - No. 22; 3 - No. 27; 4 - No. 33 and 44; 5 - No. 34; 6 - No. 35 and 36; 7 - No. 39; 8 - No. 44 and 45 [crucified], "...We find that the chance that any man might have lived down to the present time and fulfilled all eight prophecies is 1 in 1017." That would be 1 in 100,000,000,000,000,000. In order to help us comprehend this staggering probability, Stoner illustrates it by supposing that "we take 1017 silver dollars and lay them on the face of Texas. They will cover all the state two feet deep. Now mark one of these silver dollars and stir the whole mass thoroughly, all over the state. Blindfold a man and tell him that he can travel as far as he wishes, but he must pick up one silver dollar and say that this is the right one. What chance would he have of getting the right one? Just the same chance that the prophets would have had of writing these eight prophecies and having them all come true in any one man, from their day to the present time, providing they wrote them in their own wisdom.

"Now these prophecies were either given by inspiration of GOD or the prophets just wrote them as they thought they should be. In such a case the prophets had just one chance in 1017 of having them come true in any man, but they all came true in Christ.

"This means that the fulfillment of these eight prophecies alone prove that GOD inspired the writing of those prophecies to a definiteness which lacks only one chance in 1017 of being absolute."

Stoner considers 48 prophecies and says, "...We find the chance that any one man fulfilled all 48 prophecies to be 1 in 10157.

"This is really a large number and it represents an extremely small chance. Let us try to visualize it. The silver dollar, which we have been using, is entirely too large. We must select a smaller object. The electron is about as small an object as we know of. It is so small that it will take 2.5 times 1015 of them laid side by side to make a line, single file, one inch long. If we were going to count the electrons in this line one inch long, and counted 250 each minute, and if we counted day and night, it would take us 19,000,000 years to count just the one-inch line of electrons. If we had a cubic inch of these electrons and we tried to count them it would take us, counting steadily 250 each minute, 19,000,000 times 19,000,000 times 19,000,000 years or 6.9 times 1021 years.

"With this introduction, let us go back to our chance of 1 in 10157. Let us suppose that we are taking this number of electrons, marking one, and thoroughly stirring it into the whole mass, then blindfolding a man and letting him try to find the right one. What chance has he of finding the right one? What kind of a pile will this number of electrons make? They make an inconceivably large volume."

Such is the chance of any one man fulfilling 48 prophecies.

The Time of Messiah's Coming

THE REMOVAL OF THE SCEPTER

"The scepter shall not depart from Judah, Nor the ruler's staff from between his feet, Until Shiloh comes, And to him shall be the obedience of the peoples."
Genesis 49:10

The word which is best translated "scepter" in this passage means a "tribal staff." Each of the 12 tribes of Israel had its own particular "staff" with its name inscribed on it. Therefore, the "tribal staff" or "tribal identity" of Judah was not to pass away before Shiloh came. For centuries Jewish and Christian commentators alike have taken the word "Shiloh" to be a name of the MEssiah.

We remember that Judah had been deprived of its national sovereignty during the 70-year period of the Babylonian captivity; however, it never lost its "tribal staff" or "national identity" during this time. They still possessed their own lawgivers or judges even while in captivity (see Ezra 1:5,8).

Thus, according to this Scripture and the Jews of their time, two signs were to take place soon after the advent of the Messiah:

1. Removal of the scepter or identity of Judah.
2. Suppression of the judicial power.

The first visible sign of the beginning of the removal of the scepter from Judah came about when Herod the Great, who had no Jewish blood, succeeded the Maccabean princes, who belonged to the tribe of Levi and who were the last Jewish kings to have their reign in Jerusalem (Sanhedrin, folio 97, verso.) (Maccabees, Book 2).

Magath, in his book Jesus Before the Sanhedrin, titles his second chapter: "The legal power of the Sanhedrin is restricted twenty-three years before the trial of Christ." This restriction was the loss of the power to pass the death sentence.

This occurred after the deposition of Archelaus, who was the son and successor of Herod, 11 AD, or 7 VE (Josephus, Ant., Book 17, Chap. 13, 1-5). The procurators, who administered in the Augustus name, took the supreme power of the Sanhedrin away so they could exercise the jus gladii themselves; that is, the sovereign right over life and death sentences. All the nations which were subdued by the Roman Empire were deprived of their ability to pronounce capital sentences. Tacitus says, "...The Romans reserved to themselves the right of the sword, and neglected all else."

The Sanhedrin, however, retained certain rights:

1. Excommunication (John 9:22).
2. Imprisonment (Acts 5:17,18).
3. Corporeal punishment (Acts 16:22).

The Talmud itself admits that "a little more than forty years before the destruction f the Temple, the power of pronouncing capital sentences was taken away from the Jews." (Talmud, Jerusalem, Sanhedrin, fol. 24, recto.) However, it hardly seems possible that the jus gladii remained in the Jewish hands until that time. It probably had ceased at the time of Coponius, 7 AD. (Essai sur l'histoire et la geographie de la Palestine, d'apres les Talmuds et la geographie de la Palestine, d'apres les Talmuds et les autres sources Rabbinique, p. 90: Paris, 1867.) Rabbi Rachmon says, "When the members of the Sanhedrin found themselves deprived of their right over life and death, a general consternation took possession of them; they covered their heads with ashes, and their bodies with sackcloth, exclaiming: 'Woe unto us, for the scepter has departed from Judah, and the Messiah has not come!' " Josephus, who was an eye-witness of this decadent process, says, "After the death of the procurator Festus, when Albinus was about to succeed him, the high-priest Ananus considered it a favorable opportunity to assemble the Sanhedrin. He therefore caused James the brother of Jesus, who was called Christ, and several others, to appear before this hastily assembled council, and pronounced upon them the sentence of death by stoning. All the wise men and strict observers of the law who were at Jerusalem expressed their disapprobation of this act...Some even went to Albinus himself, who had departed to Alexandria, to bring this breach of the law under his observation, and to inform him that Ananus had acted illegally in assembling the Sanhedrin without the Roman authority" (Josephus, Ant., 20, Chap. 9, 1).
 
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