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the illuminati is using disinformation agents such as Glen Beck and Alex Jones to incite a civil war and an uprising against the government. I've noticed that they are even playing the race card in order to create tension. It seems like they want something to happen so that they can round us on up and take charge. Many believe that American Soldiers won't act against other Americans but that remains to be seen. They have been training Russian and Chinese soldiers here for awhile.

Have any of you ever heard of Dimitrius Dudaman? I don't know if I spelled that right.
 
ronniechoate34 said:
the illuminati is using disinformation agents such as Glen Beck and Alex Jones to incite a civil war and an uprising against the government. I've noticed that they are even playing the race card in order to create tension. It seems like they want something to happen so that they can round us on up and take charge. Many believe that American Soldiers won't act against other Americans but that remains to be seen. They have been training Russian and Chinese soldiers here for awhile.

Have any of you ever heard of Dimitrius Dudaman? I don't know if I spelled that right.
where have we been training the chinese? i have seen some russian soldiers but that was in country. not in the u.s. i am an american soldier the day i must kill an innocent american who isnt trying to kill me or harm others, i will rip off my uniform and throw down my weapon.

please show the link on this and dont believe every "conspiracy theory" you hear. we got plenty here already that have been shown to be false.
 
ronniechoate34 said:
You don't believe that the fema camps will ever be used?
for what other the purpose who housing the one that lost their homes. why i do believe that all the world's goverment will turn on the christians, but lets not look at something that aint really there should we be vigilant yes, i'm learning this saying, hear all believe none. i think that ben franklin said that.
 
jasoncran said:
ronniechoate34 said:
You don't believe that the fema camps will ever be used?
for what other the purpose who housing the one that lost their homes.


Well now anything could happen. Even a civil uprising against the government. What about a national emergency?


jasoncran said:
why i do believe that all the world's goverment will turn on the christians,


Why I believe that too.


jasoncran said:
but lets not look at something that aint really there


What do you mean "ain't really there"?


jasoncran said:
should we be vigilant yes, i'm learning this saying, hear all believe none. i think that ben franklin said that.



I think Ben Franklin wasn't a very morally sound man. His membership in the hellfire club was a testimony to his debauchery.
 
Maybe they are not training Chinese and Russian soldiers on our soil and maybe they are. It really comes down to the witnesses vs those who didn't witness it. Some claim to have evidence but I don't wanna argue about it.
 
i have about twenty years in the service, while i dont see or know evrything. i dont see that happening now. we can be aware yet not paraniod, remember that they are people who stir up people simply get attention and make money.

a massive national disaster can cause what you speak of, but that could have come in when katrina, and when florida was hit by the five hurricanes in 04. and it didnt.
 
jasoncran said:
i have about twenty years in the service, while i dont see or know evrything. i dont see that happening now.


I have not been a first person eyewitness to these happenings either. I have only heard the stories, it was a second handed account or a first person account. There is video to support these claims but you know how that can be. It seems likely that God would move in people that are exposed to these things. When I hear people say that they feel like they must expose these things sounds right to me.


jasoncran said:
we can be aware yet not paraniod, remember that they are people who stir up people simply get attention and make money.


I am not paranoid. In fact I am not frightened by this at all. The Bible warns us of our enemy and reminds that we are fighting a battle here. God has not given us the Spirit of fear and though the devil walks about like a roaring lion seeking those who he may devour we will not fear or fret. We know who is in charge.




jasoncran said:
a massive national disaster can cause what you speak of, but that could have come in when katrina, and when florida was hit by the five hurricanes in 04. and it didnt.


I know that it didn't. What about a situation so terrible that only a few will fight for their freedom while the rest run to get onto the trains? Do you think maybe a situation like that would tip the scales in the fed's favor? Why would they have rounded armed citizens up for Katrina? What mid western yokel is gonna feel like he is so much danger that he'd better head to the fema camp because of a hurricane way down south? Too much resistance. That's why they didn't do it.
 
to be honest even if the feds did turn on its own citizens , it would be an insurgency, and an ugly one at that, and this thought sickens me, and perish the thought.
 
You're talking about the timing of the "great tribulation". So it's important to stay with what God's Word reveals about it.

Mark 13:9-13
9 But take heed to yourselves: for they shall deliver you up to councils; and in the synagogues ye shall be beaten: and ye shall be brought before rulers and kings for My sake, for a testimony against them.

These Mark 13 events are linked with the seven seals of Rev.6. There will be a time during the tribulation (I think at the very end), when Christ's elect servants that stay faithful to Him, will be delivered up to the enemy to give His witness.

10 And the gospel must first be published among all nations.

The Greek word for "published" there is 'kerusso', and it means to proclaim after the manner of a herald. It's the town criers of old who'd get up on a soap box in the town square to cry a warning of danger. I know most only condsider that verse in relation to The Gospel going to all nations before the very end, but the Greek word also shows a link to these being delivered up to give Christ's witness before all nations, i.e., at a certain period.

11 But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Ghost.

When Peter spoke before the multitudes from different nations gathered on Pentecost, each person heard him speak in their own dialect of their own language of birth. That's the true cloven tongue this is speaking about, The Holy Spirit speaking through Christ's servants, giving that Witness for Christ against them.

12 Now the brother shall betray the brother to death, and the father the son; and children shall rise up against their parents, and shall cause them to be put to death.
13 And ye shall be hated of all men for My name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
(KJV)

That hatred is starting to pile up in our times today, not just in primarily non-Christian nations, but also among many within Christ's Body because of all the confused false doctrines the enemy is spreading. When it gets bad enough that "brother shall betray brother to death, and the father the son, and children shall rise up against their parents", that's when we will see a repeat of operations like Nazi Germany, Stalin's Communist Russia, etc.

The thing to especially remember when that time does come on earth, is the example of Daniel in the lion's den, and Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego being preserved by Christ when thrown in the hot fiery furnace heated seven times hotter that necessary (Dan.3).

We've still got a ways to go before the times will get that serious. Yet it could come very quickly. It is only now that the world leaders within our own nation have finally decided to start cutting off radio and TV coverage of Christian Church services.

When that time does come, how many will remain faithful to our Lord Jesus and keep His Word as written? Brother turning in brother, fathers turning in their sons, and children turning in their parents, is exactly the kind of thing that happenned in Nazi Germany and Stalin's Russia.

The deceived today who will put their trust in THIS world will see anyone against the idea of "world peace" as a threat, especially when a false messiah appears on the scene working great signs and miracles to deceive with, saying he's God (Rev.13:11 >; 2 Thess.2). If the deceived believe that false one is Messiah, they will think anyone who refuses to believe as wicked, and deserving to be destroyed. That's the kind of times that are coming upon this earth before The Lord Jesus Christ does return to end it.
 
Mark 13:9-13
9 But take heed to yourselves: for they shall deliver you up to councils; and in the synagogues ye shall be beaten: and ye shall be brought before rulers and kings for My sake, for a testimony against them.

Yes, we must watch out. The Jews are going to rise up and bring us into their synagogues to be beaten.

Not sure how as there are only 15 million Jews in the world, but, surely they will take on a billion Christians and persecute them like Jesus said... :o lol :gah

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/jewpop.html
 
I also believe that there are agents in place, i.e. Alex Jones, Glen Beck etc., who are putting on patriotism like it's a mask and trying to incite the American people to rebellion and civil war. I think there may be church leaders doing this also. If there were a civil war then they could round us up.


Demitrius Duduman (I think that's spelled right) claimed to have seen a vision by the Spirit of an uprising in the mid west against the federal government. He said that during this the eastern countries preparing to rule with the one world government will decide to cut America out of the deal and when this uprising in America starts they will destroy us beyond belief. All of our communications will be shut down and then they are gonna wallop us straight into hell.


If this happens then it will be God's judgment executed upon Babylon and a warning for everyone left. It will be a tremendous disaster and shock waves will circle the globe. Rich men will be broken and all will be done in one hour.


Thanks for posting everyone.
 
One more thing. After something like that the world's population will be ready to believe anything. *enter antichrisht*? Iran is saying yes, let him come.
 
If America experiences such an attack there will be people pulled out of here. I guarantee it.
 
researcher said:
Mark 13:9-13
9 But take heed to yourselves: for they shall deliver you up to councils; and in the synagogues ye shall be beaten: and ye shall be brought before rulers and kings for My sake, for a testimony against them.

Yes, we must watch out. The Jews are going to rise up and bring us into their synagogues to be beaten.

Not sure how as there are only 15 million Jews in the world, but, surely they will take on a billion Christians and persecute them like Jesus said... :o lol :gah

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/jewpop.html


This was sarcasm in case anyone didn't realize. lol. ;) ;) ;)
 
researcher said:
researcher said:
Mark 13:9-13
9 But take heed to yourselves: for they shall deliver you up to councils; and in the synagogues ye shall be beaten: and ye shall be brought before rulers and kings for My sake, for a testimony against them.

Yes, we must watch out. The Jews are going to rise up and bring us into their synagogues to be beaten.

Not sure how as there are only 15 million Jews in the world, but, surely they will take on a billion Christians and persecute them like Jesus said... :o lol :gah

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/jewpop.html


This was sarcasm in case anyone didn't realize. lol. ;) ;) ;)

The thing many don't realize about the October revolution in 1917 Russia, is that it was instrumented by a very small group of instigators. But that small group of instigators through propaganda and influence had many within the government structure in their pocket already, ready to strike against Czar Nicolaus and family. That's how the Nazi party worked their overthrow of the German people also. It will also be how the "synagogue of Satan" will work also, having power over the controlling structure and using propaganda so that it even causes members within one's own family to have another family member delivered up. If deception by propaganda and influence can be that powerful, then it doesn't require a large group of instigators behind it.
 
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