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I hate divorce

Classik

Classik

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I got off a conversation with a friend now. She told me she's having a problem with her man. (I didn't say he filed for a divorce - NO). However it seems to me the guy wanna 'walk away'. I have some threads on divorce already. This is yet another one. How justified is it for people to get divorced? What is the outcome? Comfort?. Even some cases of divorce have little or nothing to do with adultery. People want comfort. I don't think Paul teaches we must divorce someone (even if the person is guilty of adultery). I HATE DIVORCE:sad:sad
 
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Classik said:
I got off a conversation with a friend now. She told me she's having a problem with his man. (I didn't say he filed for a divorce - NO). However it seems to me the guy wanna 'walk away'. I have some threads on divorce already. This is yet another one. How justified is it for people to get divorced? What is the outcome? Comfort?. Even some cases of divorce have little or nothing to do with adultery. People want comfort. I don't think Paul teaches we must divorce someone (even if the person is guilty of adultery). I HATE DIVORCE:sad:sad
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C:

God, too. 'He hateth putting away' (Malachi 2.16).
 
If you ever saw what divorce does, you'd hate it too. Have you ever looked at two people getting a divorce and said to yourself, "If they only treated each other differently".... and that's what this life is all about isn't it? Treating people in a way we would want to be treated and maybe not as we deserve to be treated. I can see why God hates it so much... It doesn't have to be that way.
 
StoveBolts said:
If you ever saw what divorce does, you'd hate it too. Have you ever looked at two people getting a divorce and said to yourself, "If they only treated each other differently".... and that's what this life is all about isn't it? Treating people in a way we would want to be treated and maybe not as we deserve to be treated. I can see why God hates it so much... It doesn't have to be that way.
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S: I hope I do, too.
 
What divorce does is just plain ugly... Some times it is the better choice....thinking to the extreme here....
anyway if we had to stay married to each other for 48 years you all are not getting out with less :grumpy
 
It is very sad. All of my grandparents and most of my aunts/uncles have been divorced at least once. I have one uncle who has been divorced 5 times, and it is really sad.
 
The old story it take 2 just is not always so.... Sometimes one half is just a creep or turns into one.
 
Edward said:
I believe the scripture is clear. I haven't read any exceptions to it except adultery. Besides, isn't that what fathers are for? ;)
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E: I guess we already went into this, what 'fornication' (not 'adultery') means in the contexts given, so I won't go into it again.

Blessings.
 
RachelKeeth said:
It is very sad. All of my grandparents and most of my aunts/uncles have been divorced at least once. I have one uncle who has been divorced 5 times, and it is really sad.
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Rachel:

I'm sorry. I guess the strong moral is, don't marry in a hurry until you are really sure of the Lord's leading.

Blessings.
 
farouk said:
Rachel:

I'm sorry. I guess the strong moral is, don't marry in a hurry until you are really sure of the Lord's leading.

Blessings.
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Thanks. It is sad but, he is not a christian and lives a very poor live style. I saw him for the first time in a few years at the end of December and it was sad to see how worn and old he looked from his very hard lifestyle. It also impacts all his kids badly, all of the ones that are adults have followed in his footsteps by some degree, all of them by having kids out of wedlock along with other ways. One of them is currently pregnant and engaged but she is going to be moving down this way soon so I am hoping we can be more of a witness to her!
 
RachelKeeth said:
Thanks. It is sad but, he is not a christian and lives a very poor live style. I saw him for the first time in a few years at the end of December and it was sad to see how worn and old he looked from his very hard lifestyle. It also impacts all his kids badly, all of the ones that are adults have followed in his footsteps by some degree, all of them by having kids out of wedlock along with other ways. One of them is currently pregnant and engaged but she is going to be moving down this way soon so I am hoping we can be more of a witness to her!
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Rachel:

Often as much as what you say, it's when love and patience is shown that the testimony is borne.

Blessings.
 
farouk said:
Rachel:

Often as much as what you say, it's when love and patience is shown that the testimony is borne.

Blessings.
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Yeah. And she has heard the gospel but has not had good influences. I am hoping with her being down here she will see the difference and want to ask more questions because she has been curious on the subject which is a really good sign.
 
RachelKeeth said:
Yeah. And she has heard the gospel but has not had good influences. I am hoping with her being down here she will see the difference and want to ask more questions because she has been curious on the subject which is a really good sign.
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Rachel: Sounds like it. And the fact you are her cousin means she might be seeing quite a lot of you, anyway. Blessings.
 
Edward said:
I believe the scripture is clear. I haven't read any exceptions to it except adultery. Besides, isn't that what fathers are for? ;)
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Hi Edward, I believe the scriptures are not so clear on this issue and one must study them to get get a clear picture.

I'll take one at a time to keep my posts a reasonable length.

First, we can look at Malachi 2:14-16.
The Jews understood that it was a mans' obligation was to provide for his wifes' physical needs, protection of her reputation, and protection from abuse.
In Deuteronomy 22:10, a man was fined for ruining his wifes' reputation.
In Exodus 21, a man for put to death for striking his parents.
Would God care about a wifes' reputation but not if she was physically abused?

What about violence against a wife?
Because of violence, God destroyed the Earth Genesis 6:11-13.
The Lords' soul hates the one who loves violence Psalm 11:5.
Wickedness stirred up Gods' anger Ezekial 7:3.
Violence is wicked Proverbs 4:14-17
Violence is treacherous Proverbs 13:2.

The marriage is broken with physical abuse.
 
In Malachi 2:14-15, the Hebrew word bagad is translated as treacherouly, and this denotes to unfaithfulness to the covenant.
Thus abuse and neglect break the marriage covenant.
In Malachi 2:16, the Hebrew word chamac for garments refers to sinful violence.
So it refers to a man who covers himself with an action of violence and an abusive inner state violates the covenant of marriage.
There are no debates by Jews as to the validity of divorce due to abuse and neglect.
I believe Jesus' silence on this issue highlights the fact that he did accept it, as did all other Jews.
There's no question that Jesus came to free the oppressed.
He gave sight to the blind, healed everyone in sight.
He had no need to free the abused wife because there was already a law in place to do that.
 
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