If Jesus was GOD

[Muhsen]

I am not here, to post bombs on the site...and not to attack anybody or offend anybody my purpose is the dialog hope my post be useful and benefit for others


"seen" , "stare ","discern clearly"

It give same meaning, that God cannot be seen Christ was obviously seen by those around him.

Mose's story has been mentioned in Quran to confirm that God cannot be seen


7:143. And when Mûsa (Moses) came at the time and place appointed by Us, and his Lord spoke to him, he said: "O my Lord! Show me (Yourself), that I may look upon You." God said: "You cannot see Me, but look upon the mountain if it stands still in its place then you shall see Me." So when his Lord appeared to the mountain , He made it collapse to dust, and Mûsa (Moses) fell down unconscious. Then when he recovered his senses he said: "Glory be to You, I turn to You in repentance and I am the first of the believers."

 

[YESHUA]

I am not here, to post bombs on the site...and not to attack anybody or offend anybody my purpose is the dialog hope my post be useful and benefit for others (AND JUST WHO ARE THOSE OTHERS?)

YOU'RE NOT TELLING THE TRUTH MY FRIEND BUT THAT'S NO SURPRISE TO ME.

JUST HOW CAN YOUR POST BE OF ANY USE TO US WHEN WE KNOW THAT IT IS BUT A PACK OF LIARS. BUT THEN AGAIN MAYBE OTHERS THAT DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE LIES BEING TOLD IN THE QUR'AN CAN BENEFIT AND LEARN THAT THE BIBLE AND THE QUR'AN HAS NOTHING IN COMMON

Look I know Muslims too well my friend, and your here to create confusing and spread liars about Jesus and the Holy Spirit.
And yes I want eternal life that’s why I believe in CHRIST THE SON OF THE LIVING GOD THE HOLY ONE OF YISRAEL, JUST HOW MANY TIMES DO WE HAVE TO TELL THAT JESUS WAS THE SON OF GOD NOT BECAUSE AS YOU CLAIM GOD HAD SEX WITH MARY.
UNLESS YOU HAVE A REVELATION FROM GOD YOU’LL NEVER BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND NOT IN A MILLION YEARS.
SHALOM AND LOVE IN THE NAME OF YESHUA, THE SON OF GOD

Romans 14

7 For none of us liveth to himself, and no man dieth to himself.
8 For whether we live, we live unto the Lord; and whether we die, we die unto the Lord: whether we live therefore, or die, we are the Lord's.
9 For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived, that he might be Lord both of the dead and living.
10 But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.
11 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.
12 So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God

 

[aiki]

Muhsen:

Apparently, you and Yeshua have some unhappy history together. I think you've got right up his nose, Muhsen. :o :P :D

I am not here, to post bombs on the site...and not to attack anybody or offend anybody my purpose is the dialog hope my post be useful and benefit for others

Well, if you don't wish to offend anyone, why are you posting things on a Christian site that Christians will find offensive? And you aren't really engaging in dialoque, Muhsen. That requires responding to what people are saying, and you, generally, aren't doing that. ONe last thing: why would you think that posting an erroneous "refutation" of one of the core doctrines of the Christian faith would be useful and beneficial on a Christian site.? :-?

seen" , "stare ","discern clearly"

It give same meaning, that God cannot be seen Christ was obviously seen by those around him.

Mose's story has been mentioned in Quran to confirm that God cannot be seen

Why are you posting with such poor spelling and grammar? I'm pretty certain that I have seen other posts of yours that were much better written.

I am very puzzled by your use of the Quran in defense of your point. The two books, the Bible and the Quran, are completely at odds with each other. As far as a Christian is concerned, the Quran is filled to the brim with falsehoods. Why on earth, then, would you attempt to use it to forward your contention about what the Bible says with Christians? IN the mind of a Christian, this only serves to weaken your case!

The account of Moses seeing God's "hinderparts" in the Bible is completely different than the quotation you gave from the Quran. God in HIs full glory has never been entirely observed, or seen, by any man. Moses only caught a glimpse of the back of God, which is hardly the same as "clearly discerning Him".

How about the questions I asked you a post or two ago? Any response?

In Christ, Aiki.

 

[Muhsen]

I am wondering, This board supposed to be Christianity & Other Religions, Open discussion on other beliefs and how they relate to Christianity, so why you have been annoyed from posting my views on this board?!! I find it useful and beneficial as responses to those who Post the slanders and the lies about Islam and, I find it useful and beneficial for searchers on the truth.

There are other religions post as well, why you only attack Muslims?!!!1

 

[aiki]

Muhsen:

I'm not annoyed with you. I'm a little skeptical about your motives for posting here, but I'm not annoyed.

Since this is a Christian forum, it should not serve as a place to promote other religions. Nor should it be a place where members of other religions can make derogatory or false statements about Christianity. You are free, I think, to tell us what you as a Muslim believe, but you shouldn't be trying to tell Christians on their forum what they should or should not believe.

I think you ought to defend your faith here if what is being said about it is untrue. BUt, you have gone beyond doing this, Muhsen, particularly on this thread.

In Christ, Aiki.

 

[Muhsen]

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[Muhsen]

Okay, If Jesus and God are two distinct gods and one is greater than the other ("my Father is greater than I" John 14:28) then this contradicts such verses as Isaiah 43:10-11 and the very definition of the "Trinity" ( which includes the words: "..Co-equality.." in it's definition


However, if they are not two separate gods, but ONE god, as claimed by all Trinitarians (like Mr. J), then is Jesus (pbuh) praying to himself? Is, for instance, his mind praying to his soul? Why?!!!!!!