I'M SO UPSET

[JohnDB]

Agreed,.. but with a couple or maybe even a few exceptions that I can think of most horror movies are fiction and that's the difference. Besides, what would Halloween be like without watching some horror movies every now and then?

Oh yeah...I still do it but it's become more like a comedy than Scarry....

The real thing is very very scary...

 

[HeIsRisen2018]

Oh yeah...I still do it but it's become more like a comedy than Scarry....

If there was a movie made about me then it would be both. (It would probably also be entitled either The Girl Who Didn't Have Any Marbles,.. or Coo-coo for Coco-Puffs. :P Picture Chucky if he had a heart and then suddenly became high on sugar. It would be rated I for insanity,.. not for the picture itself,.. but more like a warning of what you would become after watching it. )

 

[JohnDB]

If there was a movie made about me then it would be both. (It would probably also be entitled either The Girl Who Didn't Have Any Marbles,.. or Coo-coo for Coco-Puffs. :tongue Picture Chucky if he had a heart and then suddenly became high on sugar. It would be rated I for insanity,.. not for the picture itself,.. but more like a warning of what you would become after watching it. )

The kind of horror I'm talking about is no laughing matter...
This is something that you really don't want to joke about.

Look,
I love God and really like Him for all that He has generously and lovingly has done for me...
But that doesn't mean that I don't hold an immense respect for Him... almost to the point of paralyzing fear.

This is time to be scared.

 

[HeIsRisen2018]

The kind of horror I'm talking about is no laughing matter...
This is something that you really don't want to joke about.

I know I wasn't joking about that,.. I was talking about something different. I was talking about me,.. and actually the funniest part about it is that I was dead serious LOL you've seen me when I get in my goofy moods before and it's like I'm from a different planet, and I actually do believe that I am at times. Okay,.. now with that being said,..

 

[GodsGrace]

Yeah...
I understand completely.

Money is one of those things that people do all kinds of things for. Immoral and illegal things to obtain. Literally selling their souls to Satan for a pittance.

But we as Christians have a giving Spirit inside of us...but we don't want to promote evil either.
It's a total paradox.

Hand ups are few and far in between. People who just need a hand up so that they can do for themselves...so rare...and they usually don't ask. People who constantly whine and moan that they need this and need that... usually are lazy and wasteful with their rescources. They behave like the world owes them. (When not asking for something)

Paul and Moses both had to tell people to stop giving to them because they had plenty...
Never heard a preacher after that say anything similar... for a reason.

God's money is God's...and there's a terrible price to pay for mismanagement...worse than you can imagine. And I've been horrified at what has happened to those who steal from God. And I used to enjoy reading and watching horror books and movies...but not after researching those who stole from God. That was way scarier.

That being said...

Our job is to give...

But I still have a rather full bank account of God's money. My wife and I are always looking to empty it. We do on occasion. But it is reserved solely for giving away. And often it has performed miracles.

Our church here has a cathedral... other churches aren't doing so well. We both love missions. And God has placed people and organizations in our path and we stroke the check with a smile and bit of relief when we do. Our responsibility has ended for a while.
Now it belongs to someone else.

And if I was you...
I would warn the people crying that what they are doing is very very dangerous...being in the hands of a justifiably angry God is a terrible thing. One I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy.

I like your last paragraph...
but do agree with everything.

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

I agree,,,but how do persons not exist??
Maybe they don't make out tax forms?
I think everyone has to make them out even if they don't owe anything.
How would the government know they exist otherwise??

You are isolated from the poverty that is around me.
We are the poorest county in Georgia and the tenth poorest county in America.
No newspapers or radio or tv or craigslist or anything to communicate with the rest of America.
These people have no computers or cable and few have cell phones.
Most don't know if there are benefits out there for them.
Most don't know the local library can help them.
Most are illiterate and uneducated.
Yes, all this does exist in America.

 

[Tessa]

I realise how you feel @wondering. Your heart is in the right place.
Those things happen here too.
your OP came at a peculiar time for me. Because I was planning to do something similar and get all the local churches involved. I am going to replan now

 

[GodsGrace]

You are isolated from the poverty that is around me.
We are the poorest county in Georgia and the tenth poorest county in America.
No newspapers or radio or tv or craigslist or anything to communicate with the rest of America.
These people have no computers or cable and few have cell phones.
Most don't know if there are benefits out there for them.
Most don't know the local library can help them.
Most are illiterate and uneducated.
Yes, all this does exist in America.

Same situation here.

Seems like the truly poor don't even know what is due them.
My O.P. is regarding those that are NOT that poor, or not poor at all,
and yet they know and take advantage of every penny that is owed to them
by crying poverty and yet having more income than most.

The reason I'm upset is because help is given to those that LIE and not given
to the humble and needy that do not lie and even have some pride left in them.
Those that cry poverty have NO PRIDE and only think of accumulating money.
And those that should be helping the truly poverty stricken are helping them to accumulate
this money.

This is incredibly unjust.

 

[Truthfrees]

Hi Truthfrees,,,
Agreed on the above,,,
but I don't know if it's lack of wisdom or some just know how to cry really well.
I think it's called crocodile tears.
I just think it takes away from those really needing the help.
Some have no family to help them....AND are in financial need.

amen - i find those truly in need sometimes say nothing and suffer in silence because they don't want to bother anyone - or are embarrassed etc

and sometimes those who make the biggest noise don't have a need - they just pretend they do to take advantage of people's kindness

 

[GodsGrace]

amen - i find those truly in need sometimes say nothing and suffer in silence because they don't want to bother anyone - or are embarrassed etc

and sometimes those who make the biggest noise don't have a need - they just pretend they do to take advantage of people's kindness

Amen brother.
I'm happy you understand.

 

[for_his_glory]

No Board of Directors. in a CC, the Pries or Monsignor is in charge. He doesn't really know what's going on. Are you saying I should tell him? I've considered it,,,but then I'd have to move.

One can only cry wolf so many times before they end up getting ignored. There really isn't much you can except give to your own charities that truly need help. Ours is to give in offerings and actually not worry where it is going, but in this case you do know in part where part of it is going to. I know it makes you angry, but this is the way of worldly people and in the end they will be judged.

 

[HeIsRisen2018]

One can only cry wolf so many times before they end up getting ignored. There really isn't much you can except give to your own charities that truly need help. Ours is to give in offerings and actually not worry where it is going, but in this case you do know in part where part of it is going to. I know it makes you angry, but this is the way of worldly people and in the end they will be judged.

Exactly and I apologize for the fact that I already know you can't see this but I figured that it was a good enough message to post for others as well.

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

One can only cry wolf so many times before they end up getting ignored. There really isn't much you can except give to your own charities that truly need help. Ours is to give in offerings and actually not worry where it is going, but in this case you do know in part where part of it is going to. I know it makes you angry, but this is the way of worldly people and in the end they will be judged.

Don't be so lax with your money or with what you actually do with it.
You give your money to the church and they decide how to use it.
You no longer have anything to say about it.
If they misuse it, it's on you.
Whatever they do with it, you never really know.
But what do you do with it?
You give it to someone else and put the onus on the.
I hope they at least enjoy their Sunday dinners at the restaurant with your money if nothing else.
Take control of your money and do something with it instead of telling someone else to do it and then hope they did right.
In the end in front of God, it all falls back on you.

 

[for_his_glory]

Don't be so lax with your money or with what you actually do with it.
You give your money to the church and they decide how to use it.
You no longer have anything to say about it.
If they misuse it, it's on you.
Whatever they do with it, you never really know.
But what do you do with it?
You give it to someone else and put the onus on the.
I hope they at least enjoy their Sunday dinners at the restaurant with your money if nothing else.
Take control of your money and do something with it instead of telling someone else to do it and then hope they did right.
In the end in front of God, it all falls back on you.

Giving to the church monetarily you are helping to support the Pastors salary as the board is suppose to set up a percentage of the offerings they should receive to live on. Then there are the utilities and maintenance of the church and helping to meet the needs of those who need help.

Giving offerings is an act of faith as we give unto the Lord per Matthew 25:31-40 and the financial books of the church needs to be available to anyone in the congregation that wants to see them as reports can be copied and given out to all who wants one to see where all the money is being distributed to. If the offerings are being misappropriated then it is on those who are not being good stewards over the financial affairs of the church and not those who are faithful givers.

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

That's very nice of you but you don't really know what you are saying.
First off, the only offering in the New Testament is the sacrifice of praise to God.
Jesus spoke of giving money to the Temple as a gift.
Offerings are not monetary and they are only mentioned in the Law with the Levites.

Paying a salary to someone and paying to support church buildings is more like being a member of a club, like the Elks or something.
It's more like paying dues than an offering.

 

[sunflower]

Nothing can be done about this.
I guess that's why I'm so upset.

Maybe you are the one who needs to "do something about it." Maybe the priest and those he may have given control in this are unaware of what you know about the receiving parties involved. Consider a chat with the priest or whoever as they could simply be unaware. I once served on a church staff..(way back when I was Catholic too) and we often made mistakes but did give in the name of charity to those who asked usually no questions asked by us. If we didn't get the distribution right we at least erred in the name of charity. Knowing more facts may have helped but I think the pastor (I was not the pastor, obviously since I am a female and there are only male pastor priests in the Catholic church) but did like imput from anyone coming to church whether they were officially Catholic or not and then I could relate it to the pastor on their behave. There may be someone on staff who can do that for you. Beats simply complaining about it as unjust.. No action often means no results.