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Is Alistair Begg Right?

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Shepherds Conference speaker, Alistair Begg, says Christians should attend ‘gay weddings’ to not be ‘judgmental, critical’

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Shepherds Conference speaker, Alistair Begg, says Christians should attend ‘gay weddings’ to not be ‘judgmental, critical’

(Protestia) — Alistair Begg is the senior pastor at Parkside Church near Cleveland, Ohio and is perhaps best known for his syndicated radio program, Truth for Life. He has authored and coauthor of several books, including Preaching for God’s Glory, Name above All Names, and the Christian...
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Begg is totally wrong on this, and should retract these unbiblical and unwise comments

Should Christian attending these "gay weddings", also drink the toast to the "couple", eat the wedding cake, join in with the "celebrations"?

Will Begg say next that it is ok for a born-again, Evangelical pastor to marry theses "couples"?

I would be interested in your comments
 
I think each cases hold be decided case by case.
I could consider attending a secular gay marriage because I was a close friend of one participant, but not attending the recepition.

I Don’t think mi inters should marry lgtb, or permit there church premises be used.
 
Who Me said:
I think each cases hold be decided case by case.
I could consider attending a secular gay marriage because I was a close friend of one participant, but not attending the recepition.

I Don’t think mi inters should marry lgtb, or permit there church premises be used.
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The Holy Bible, which is God's Inspired, Infallible Word, is very clear, that homosexuality and trans is 100% WRONG, and against God.

There is nothing to "consider", if one believes that the Bible is the Highest Authority.

How can anyone who believes in what the Bible teaches, attend these so called "weddings", which are really a SHAM, and DEMONIC?

It is not that we can attend the ceremony, and not the reception, as BOTH are WRONG.
 
Please reread what I wrote.

Imagine that you are working with a gay person. That over the years you have argued, debated quarrelled etc yet because you work together are friends.
Would you not invite that friend to suitable services?
They reciprocate because they value your friendship to attend their wedding.
They know your opinion, your views, yet have still invited you to an important day in their life.


What is going to happen to your opertunity to continue to witness to them.

If is interesting that the dispised, the low life in Israel flocked to hear Jesus and that Jesus met them where they were.


There is a big difference between attending a ceremony and attending a social celebration of that event.

Here's A challenge, just how many undesirable people do you really talk with?
 
Who Me said:
Please reread what I wrote.

Imagine that you are working with a gay person. That over the years you have argued, debated quarrelled etc yet because you work together are friends.
Would you not invite that friend to suitable services?
They reciprocate because they value your friendship to attend their wedding.
They know your opinion, your views, yet have still invited you to an important day in their life.


What is going to happen to your opertunity to continue to witness to them.

If is interesting that the dispised, the low life in Israel flocked to hear Jesus and that Jesus met them where they were.


There is a big difference between attending a ceremony and attending a social celebration of that event.

Here's A challenge, just how many undesirable people do you really talk with?
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what you are suggesting is called COMPROMISE!
 
Who Me said:
Please reread what I wrote.

Imagine that you are working with a gay person. That over the years you have argued, debated quarrelled etc yet because you work together are friends.
Would you not invite that friend to suitable services?
They reciprocate because they value your friendship to attend their wedding.
They know your opinion, your views, yet have still invited you to an important day in their life.


What is going to happen to your opertunity to continue to witness to them.

If is interesting that the dispised, the low life in Israel flocked to hear Jesus and that Jesus met them where they were.


There is a big difference between attending a ceremony and attending a social celebration of that event.

Here's A challenge, just how many undesirable people do you really talk with?
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Hey All,
Interesting dilemma Who Me.
Can you go to your friend's wedding without compromising your beliefs?

You have to decide personally about this. I can only provide examples and support.

I don't drink.
I have gone to bars and not had any alcohol. (That's where the darts or pool tournaments are held.)
I don't smoke.
I play poker with guys that do.
I don't eat pork.
That doesn't stop me from eating at restaurants that serve pork. And I am not offended if others around me do eat it.

Those are some of my personal beliefs and I don't compromise them.

I do not believe any marriage other than a man and a woman is acceptable before God.
I would not compromise my beliefs even for the sake of a friend. So no I would not attend.

By not attending I am supporting the friend. My absence will have a greater impact than my words.

Most of my friends know, or they soon find out, that I am a believer. I am not boisterous about it. My actions, or in this case my lack of action, speak for me. My friends don't all agree with my beliefs. But they know as much as is humanly possible, I try not to violate my beliefs.

All that to say, my advice is to not attend the wedding, and be fully honest with them about why you cannot. They're still your friends. Hang out with them, and enjoy each other's company as normal. But marriage is a sacred act before God. Your beliefs do not allow you to desecrate the sanctity of the act, as described in Genasis.

They will respect you as a person. And if they don't, you still have self respect. Walk your walk.

Keep walking everybody.
May God bless,
Taz
 
Who Me said:
Visiting a co habiting couple, socialising with sinners, attending a social event, what is the diffference?
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By attending something that is Biblically wrong, and not even a "wedding", and participating in it, is wrong. Meeting people who are "sinners" is no way the same, as the world is full of them!

You cannot even compare the 2
 
Paul may have addressed something like this.

1 Now concerning things offered to idols: We know that we all have knowledge. Knowledge puffs up, but love edifies.
2 And if anyone thinks that he knows anything, he knows nothing yet as he ought to know.
3 But if anyone loves God, this one is known by Him.
4 Therefore concerning the eating of things offered to idols, we know that an idol is nothing in the world, and that there is no other God but one.
5 For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as there are many gods and many lords),
6 yet for us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we for Him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, through whom are all things, and through whom we live.
7 However, there is not in everyone that knowledge; for some, with consciousness of the idol, until now eat it as a thing offered to an idol; and their conscience, being weak, is defiled.
8 But food does not commend us to God; for neither if we eat are we the better, nor if we do not eat are we the worse.
9 But beware lest somehow this liberty of yours become a stumbling block to those who are weak.
10 For if anyone sees you who have knowledge eating in an idol’s temple, will not the conscience of him who is weak be emboldened to eat those things offered to idols?
11 And because of your knowledge shall the weak brother perish, for whom Christ died?
12 But when you thus sin against the brethren, and wound their weak conscience, you sin against Christ.
13 Therefore, if food makes my brother stumble, I will never again eat meat, lest I make my brother stumble.
1 Corinthians 8 NKJV

18 Observe Israel after the flesh: Are not those who eat of the sacrifices partakers of the altar?
19 What am I saying then? That an idol is anything, or what is offered to idols is anything?
20 Rather, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice they sacrifice to demons and not to God, and I do not want you to have fellowship with demons.
21 You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons; you cannot partake of the Lord’s table and of the table of demons.
22 Or do we provoke the Lord to jealousy? Are we stronger than He?
23 All things are lawful for me, but not all things are helpful; all things are lawful for me, but not all things edify.
24 Let no one seek his own, but each one the other’s well-being.
25 Eat whatever is sold in the meat market, asking no questions for conscience’ sake;
26 for “the earth is the Lord’s, and all its fullness.”
27 If any of those who do not believe invites you to dinner, and you desire to go, eat whatever is set before you, asking no question for conscience’ sake.
28 But if anyone says to you, “This was offered to idols,” do not eat it for the sake of the one who told you, and for conscience’ sake; for “the earth is the Lord’s, and all its fullness.”
29 “Conscience,” I say, not your own, but that of the other. For why is my liberty judged by another man’s conscience?
30 But if I partake with thanks, why am I evil spoken of for the food over which I give thanks?
31 Therefore, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God.
32 Give no offense, either to the Jews or to the Greeks or to the church of God,
33 just as I also please all men in all things, not seeking my own profit, but the profit of many, that they may be saved.
1 Corinthians 10:18-33 NKJV
 
WIP said:
Paul may have addressed something like this.

1 Now concerning things offered to idols: We know that we all have knowledge. Knowledge puffs up, but love edifies.
2 And if anyone thinks that he knows anything, he knows nothing yet as he ought to know.
3 But if anyone loves God, this one is known by Him.
4 Therefore concerning the eating of things offered to idols, we know that an idol is nothing in the world, and that there is no other God but one.
5 For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as there are many gods and many lords),
6 yet for us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we for Him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, through whom are all things, and through whom we live.
7 However, there is not in everyone that knowledge; for some, with consciousness of the idol, until now eat it as a thing offered to an idol; and their conscience, being weak, is defiled.
8 But food does not commend us to God; for neither if we eat are we the better, nor if we do not eat are we the worse.
9 But beware lest somehow this liberty of yours become a stumbling block to those who are weak.
10 For if anyone sees you who have knowledge eating in an idol’s temple, will not the conscience of him who is weak be emboldened to eat those things offered to idols?
11 And because of your knowledge shall the weak brother perish, for whom Christ died?
12 But when you thus sin against the brethren, and wound their weak conscience, you sin against Christ.
13 Therefore, if food makes my brother stumble, I will never again eat meat, lest I make my brother stumble.
1 Corinthians 8 NKJV

18 Observe Israel after the flesh: Are not those who eat of the sacrifices partakers of the altar?
19 What am I saying then? That an idol is anything, or what is offered to idols is anything?
20 Rather, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice they sacrifice to demons and not to God, and I do not want you to have fellowship with demons.
21 You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons; you cannot partake of the Lord’s table and of the table of demons.
22 Or do we provoke the Lord to jealousy? Are we stronger than He?
23 All things are lawful for me, but not all things are helpful; all things are lawful for me, but not all things edify.
24 Let no one seek his own, but each one the other’s well-being.
25 Eat whatever is sold in the meat market, asking no questions for conscience’ sake;
26 for “the earth is the Lord’s, and all its fullness.”
27 If any of those who do not believe invites you to dinner, and you desire to go, eat whatever is set before you, asking no question for conscience’ sake.
28 But if anyone says to you, “This was offered to idols,” do not eat it for the sake of the one who told you, and for conscience’ sake; for “the earth is the Lord’s, and all its fullness.”
29 “Conscience,” I say, not your own, but that of the other. For why is my liberty judged by another man’s conscience?
30 But if I partake with thanks, why am I evil spoken of for the food over which I give thanks?
31 Therefore, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God.
32 Give no offense, either to the Jews or to the Greeks or to the church of God,
33 just as I also please all men in all things, not seeking my own profit, but the profit of many, that they may be saved.
1 Corinthians 10:18-33 NKJV
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are you suggesting that Paul would agree with what Begg said?
 
Who Me said:
Please reread what I wrote.

Imagine that you are working with a gay person. That over the years you have argued, debated quarrelled etc yet because you work together are friends.
Would you not invite that friend to suitable services?
They reciprocate because they value your friendship to attend their wedding.
They know your opinion, your views, yet have still invited you to an important day in their life.


What is going to happen to your opertunity to continue to witness to them.

If is interesting that the dispised, the low life in Israel flocked to hear Jesus and that Jesus met them where they were.


There is a big difference between attending a ceremony and attending a social celebration of that event.

Here's A challenge, just how many undesirable people do you really talk with?
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I think I'd rather attend the dinner.
But, thank God, I've never been faced with this.
Not going would be the right thing to do...
My son attended such a wedding - an uncle of his wife.
She felt she had to go.
I didn't agree.
 
SolaScriptura said:
are you suggesting that Paul would agree with what Begg said?
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What do you think? The way I understand Paul, we know that their union is not Biblical or acceptable and as long as we don't promote or endorse what they are doing there is no concern for us, however, if by our very presence we are giving an impression of our support, then we should not attend.
 
WIP said:
What do you think? The way I understand Paul, we know that their union is not Biblical or acceptable and as long as we don't promote or endorse what they are doing there is no concern for us, however, if by our very presence we are giving an impression of our support, then we should not attend.
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it is "endorsed" by the fact that you "attended"!
 
SolaScriptura said:
it is "endorsed" by the fact that you "attended"!
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Okay. Let's consider another scenario. Scripture speaks quite a bit about drunkenness, which is different that having a beer or drink once in a while. If a Christian enters a bar/tavern or attends a party at some friends house and there are some there that have over-indulged a bit. Is that endorsing their debauchery? In fact, at the wedding in Cana, (John 2) Jesus filled six waterpots with wine totaling 180 gallons. This was after the wedding guests had already had plenty for it says in verse 10, “Every man at the beginning sets out the good wine, and when the guests have well drunk, then the inferior. You have kept the good wine until now!” (NKJV)

Or maybe consider an even lighter condition. It is a sin to violate the laws of the land for Scripture does say, "Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God." (Romans 13:1-2 NKJV) It cannot be denied that people do not follow traffic laws - exceeding the speed limits, tailgating, passing on the shoulder, running red lights, not stopping for stop signs, etc. Since we too drive our vehicles on those same roads right along side them and not reporting these violations, are we endorsing what they are doing?

Just so you know, I'm not trying to disagree with you. I'm trying to rightly divide the word of truth. In fact, if you go back and reread my first post, much of it supports your position just as well as not.
 
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