Is Evolution a Religion?

[John]

A friend of mine made this great (short) video, a must watch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0C8a6UCXKU

 

[platos_cave]

A friend of mine made this great (short) video, a must watch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0C8a6UCXKU

First ten seconds of the video contains the stupidest comments ever propagated by the Creationist movement.

1. Evolution does not violate any scientific physical laws. What god-like properties to time, space and matter do we give?

2. Evolution does not have anything to do with the ontology of the universe or of life. Evolution discusses the diversity of life, the inheritance of traits, the mechanisms which cause these traits, and the common ancestry of all life on Earth.

3. It has never, in any aspect of Evolutionary Theory been proposed that animals produce different kinds of animals.

4. Evolution does not answer spiritual questions of life, that's ridiculous.

5. Evolution does not deify nature.

Funny how your friend disables comments, thus censoring people from posting about this tripe.

 

[John]

He censors comments because he does not want to hear:

1. Trolls
2. Idiots
3. Swearing
4. And people who make comments like you just did.

 

[platos_cave]

He censors comments because he does not want to hear:

1. Trolls
2. Idiots
3. Swearing
4. And people who make comments like you just did.

What, you mean to point out the gross inaccuracies and errors that he trots out? Is lying for Jesus acceptable?

 

[John]

Lying for Jesus, hardly.

1. Evolution does not violate any scientific physical laws. What god-like properties to time, space and matter do we give?

Evolutionists require a Godless Beginning , since Evolution is not scriptural. The Big Bang (Dud) for example. The BB Violates Many Laws and again is not scriptural.

2. Evolution does not have anything to do with the ontology of the universe or of life. Evolution discusses the diversity of life, the inheritance of traits, the mechanisms which cause these traits, and the common ancestry of all life on Earth.

But everything needs a start (aside from God) Evolutionists need to believe in a Godless beginning for life. The Miller experiments, which again were a complete failure is the only example that i can think of that tries to prove how life came from non life.

3. It has never, in any aspect of Evolutionary Theory been proposed that animals produce different kinds of animals.

So one animal over any amount of time will not turn into another? Hmmm i though that was what mainly happened in evolution, lol Time is an evolutionists magic potion, but like it or not a dog will always be a dog in 10 years or 10 million.

4. Evolution does not answer spiritual questions of life, that's ridiculous.

It cannot, this is true, Creation however can.

5. Evolution does not deify nature.

It does. It requires so much faith for it to work that it makes itself look foolish as a theory .

 

[platos_cave]

Evolutionists require a Godless Beginning , since Evolution is not scriptural. The Big Bang (Dud) for example. The BB Violates Many Laws and again is not scriptural.

Why would Evolution have to be Scriptural to be true? Atomic Theory isn't laid out in the Bible either.

Evolution does not require a Godless Beginning, there is no reason to state that.

What laws does the Big Bang violate?

But everything needs a start (aside from God) Evolutionists need to believe in a Godless beginning for life. The Miller experiments, which again were a complete failure is the only example that i can think of that tries to prove how life came from non life.

How were the Miller experiments a complete failure?

There is no requirement for believing in a Godless beginning for life and many theists, Christians included, accept Evolution and don't seem to find any issues Scripturally. They apparently seem to understand that the Bible is not a science book.

So one animal over any amount of time will not turn into another?

No.

Hmmm i though that was what mainly happened in evolution, lol Time is an evolutionists magic potion, but like it or not a dog will always be a dog in 10 years or 10 million.

That is not what mainly happens in Evolution. You need to read up on Evolution. A dog will always be a dog.

Dogs don't live to 10 million.

It cannot, this is true, Creation however can.

I thought God answered your spiritual questions, not Creation.

It does. It requires so much faith for it to work that it makes itself look foolish as a theory .

Well you can go right ahead and believe that. Considering your extreme misinformation on the subject I'll sit here wondering how you can conclude that.

 

[turnorburn]

You can never make God happy using the road of the intellectual.
Plato's cave is an allegory, you've taken to follow a dead mans ideas something I used to do until I met a man that cannot die, you lack faith is all maybe this will help.

Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
2 For by it the elders obtained a good report.
3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.

Evolution fails on the grounds that God created the heavens and the earth in six days on the seventh he rested.

Evenings and mornings made one day.

Genesis 1: 1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.
11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.
14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.
19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.
20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.
21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
22 And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.
23 And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.
24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.
31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

turnorburn

 

[platos_cave]

You can never make God happy using the road of the intellectual.

Yes, because God hates reality and the truth...

Plato's cave is an allegory, you've taken to follow a dead mans ideas something I used to do until I met a man that cannot die, you lack faith is all maybe this will help.

Why would that help?

Evolution fails on the grounds that God created the heavens and the earth in six days on the seventh he rested.

Does gravity fail on the grounds that it doesn't say God created it in the Bible?

Evenings and mornings made one day.

Before he made the sun and moon, apparently...

 

[therealsuperman64]

platos_cave, weren't you told several weeks ago to bring a Bible with you everytime you log on to this website? Because right now you just sound like a damn fool. Evolution is the biggest load of crap i've ever heard. If you mean to tell me that you'd rather believe that a group of lizards jumped and somehow transformed into a bird while the rest of the lizards decided to remain as lizards than believe in a divine creator personally creating each bird and reptile then you're even dumber than I thought. Evolution is just a "logical" excuse for not believing in God. No trace of evolution has ever been found in the Bible so you must be outside your mind. Evolution is about the farthest you'll get from the truth.

 

[platos_cave]

platos_cave, weren't you told several weeks ago to bring a Bible with you everytime you log on to this website? Because right now you just sound like a damn fool. Evolution is the biggest load of crap i've ever heard. If you mean to tell me that you'd rather believe that a group of lizards jumped and somehow transformed into a bird while the rest of the lizards decided to remain as lizards than believe in a divine creator personally creating each bird and reptile then you're even dumber than I thought.

Well good thing I don't believe that. If you mean to tell me that's what you think Evolution is, then you're even dumber than I thought.

Evolution is just a "logical" excuse for not believing in God. No trace of evolution has ever been found in the Bible so you must be outside your mind. Evolution is about the farthest you'll get from the truth.

Yes, that's why only atheists accept evolution...[/sarcasm]

No trace of atomic theory has been found in the bible, guess that's wrong.
Special and General Relativity have not been found in the bible, guess that rules those out too.
Quantum Mechanics, DNA, Genes, Germ Theory of Disease, Thermodynamics, Plate Tectonics, Heliocentricity, Spherical Earth, yep, none of those supported, Geology.

Guess you just have to rule out all of those, too.

 

[therealsuperman64]

Unlike you platos_cave I come to this forum with my facts already straight about both sides of the argument so I do know what Evolution teaches and I know for a fact that they teach that milliosn of years ago groups of lizards jumped and evolved into birds. So you just admitted right there that Evolution is stupid.

No trace of atomic theory has been found in the bible, guess that's wrong.
Special and General Relativity have not been found in the bible, guess that rules those out too.
Quantum Mechanics, DNA, Genes, Germ Theory of Disease, Thermodynamics, Plate Tectonics, Heliocentricity, Spherical Earth, yep, none of those supported, Geology.

Guess you just have to rule out all of those, too.

lol, smart guy. All thoses studies you named up there are part of science which is the systematic knowledge of the physical or material world gained through observation and experimentation. None of those contradict the Bible except Evolution which looks for loop holes in the atomic theory that they can use to undermine the Bible. Adam and Eve didn't evolve from gorillas so how could have we? Instead of studying books about Darwins wack theories, you need to start focusing more on the word of God because the truth is that Darwin can't save you.

 

[platos_cave]

Unlike you platos_cave I come to this forum with my facts already straight about both sides of the argument so I do know what Evolution teaches and I know for a fact that they teach that milliosn of years ago groups of lizards jumped and evolved into birds. So you just admitted right there that Evolution is stupid.

Well if it's a fact that Evolution teaches that millions of years ago groups of lizards jumped and evolved into birds then it shouldn't be hard to show me any Evolution source stating that.

 

[therealsuperman64]

Go to http://www.dino-web.com/birds.html

Evolution is a load of crap

 

[platos_cave]

Go to http://www.dino-web.com/birds.html

I didn't see anywhere on the site where it stated:

"millions of years ago groups of lizards jumped and evolved into birds"

Evolution is a load of crap

Ah, I see. Another intellectually stimulating rebuttal. I look forward to more of your grandiose demonstrations of how to demolish Evolutionary Theory through dismissive hand-waving posturing.

 

[John]

Evolution destroys itself.

 

[allhart]

Would anyone die for a lie? As to say the disciple's did. I don't think they would or did. I wouldn't give my life up for another based that he wasn't God ,but just to say he was a good man.

 

[platos_cave]

Evolution destroys itself.

And how is this even remotely true? Your friend was wrong on every account in his video, you haven't backed up your claims regarding Evolution violating laws of physics, you haven't provided support for your contentions in any way whatsoever.

 

[platos_cave]

Would anyone die for a lie? As to say the disciple's did. I don't think they would or did. I wouldn't give my life up for another based that he wasn't God ,but just to say he was a good man.

What does this have to do with Evolutionary Theory?

 

[allhart]

Would anyone die for a lie? As to say the disciple's did. I don't think they would or did. I wouldn't give my life up for another based that he wasn't God ,but just to say he was a good man.

What does this have to do with Evolutionary Theory?

You live to understand the created and your religion/life is ever changing. To what facts are to be tomorrow.Is it not wise to say we can't create life, So you gravitate to the created as where as I live for the creator and live in his creation.I live life's adventure of ever learning. Knowing a peace and Joy of where I come from, also to Know where I am going.

 

[platos_cave]

You live to understand the created and your religion/life is ever changing. To what facts are to be tomorrow.Is it not wise to say we can't create life, So you gravitate to the created as where as I live for the creator and live in his creation.I live life's adventure of ever learning. Knowing a peace and Joy of where I come from, also to Know where I am going.

In short, it has nothing to do with it.