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Such as?There are many aspects to consider.
No no no, that's put to invite reflection. Please reflect and answer your question.Such as?
Ahhh. I see. Lots to chew over, thenNo no no, that's put to invite reflection. Please reflect and answer your question.
Better a witty man, than a witless man. I love it! But once you have boned up on the subject, I hope that you will get down to the body of question, and flesh it out.Ahhh. I see. Lots to chew over, then
Not really. It's a sin. Plants and animals are given for food, not people. All humans are created equal, made in the image of God, and animals are not. The only times cannibalism is mentioned in the Bible is as an incredible evil and a curse resulting from judgement for sin.There are many aspects to consider.
But there is an argument that OT prohibitions on "unclean" animals (eg pigs) are defunct under the new covenant. Would that not open up the idea that, say, if on your lifeboat you mate dies, their body becomes fair game, lest you also die? The imagodei idea (eg Gen.9:6) covers mortal human beings, not the bodies they leave behind.Not really. It's a sin. Plants and animals are given for food, not people. All humans are created equal, made in the image of God, and animals are not. The only times cannibalism is mentioned in the Bible is as an incredible evil and a curse resulting from judgement for sin.
Why not then raise babies for tasty meals ?But there is an argument that OT prohibitions on "unclean" animals (eg pigs) are defunct under the new covenant. Would that not open up the idea that, say, if on your lifeboat you mate dies, their body becomes fair game, lest you also die? The imagodei idea (eg Gen.9:6) covers mortal human beings, not the bodies they leave behind.
Like The Matrix, that sounds draining. But is one aspect of the question not whether in some situations, it can be sinful, but sinless in some situations? And unlike raising chickens to eat, might not raising babies to eat, contradict the imagodei theme (Gen.9:6)? The imagodei is perhaps, another aspect to the Q?Why not then raise babies for tasty meals ?
Murder is a sin if I must kill you and it's not a crime or judgment for one .Like The Matrix, that sounds draining. But is one aspect of the question not whether in some situations, it can be sinful, but sinless in some situations? And unlike raising chickens to eat, might not raising babies to eat, contradict the imagodei theme (Gen.9:6)? The imagodei is perhaps, another aspect to the Q?
Cannabilism isn't murder; murder can precede cannibalism. I agree that Fletcher's SE does not justify murder. But my mate dies; I am starving at sea; can I sinlessly eat my non-murdered mate's body?Murder is a sin if I must kill you and it's not a crime or judgment for one .
Situational ethics isn't a good argument .
Neverninf that diseases often kill the canabal .
A very tasty response.Better a witty man, than a witless man. I love it! But once you have boned up on the subject, I hope that you will get down to the body of question, and flesh it out.
Non murdered ?Cannabilism isn't murder; murder can precede cannibalism. I agree that Fletcher's SE does not justify murder. But my mate dies; I am starving at sea; can I sinlessly eat the body of my non-murdered mate's body?
Let those who think that there can be a point (or more), post their posts.Why is this issue even being discussed? It is pointless.
No. The idea of unclean vs clean doesn't even enter into the equation. It's that humans are made in God's image, we are not animals, and we were never given for food. Again, it's only seen in Scripture as an utter evil and horrible act to commit, a curse from God for sin.But there is an argument that OT prohibitions on "unclean" animals (eg pigs) are defunct under the new covenant. Would that not open up the idea that, say, if on your lifeboat you mate dies, their body becomes fair game, lest you also die? The imagodei idea (eg Gen.9:6) covers mortal human beings, not the bodies they leave behind.
I think that we would agree that some "thing" killed them, does not mean some "one" killed them. Natural death is not per se murder. Your fuller argument might be that it's unhygienic to eat the naturally died body of a human being (or rabbit, whatever).Non murdered ?
Something killed them
Anthrax ,covid ,and if it's that bad where you have no food ,you gonna live on salt water?
Never mind that infections set in and you don't just die from lack of food but sepsis issues .
Your body atrophies muscles .you make sound like we should pronounce the extreme unlikely event as a moral reason to allow that .
We don't have enough food ,therefore we go hunting .
In my state we have persons lost at sea and for days ,these die from water dehydration .
If you are lost in a large ship ,and it's not navigable and they have trackers in those .it doesn't work .you ain't making it out.
Water dehydration will take care of you before that .
But the imagodei is based not on the human frame, but on the human within the frame. And personal choice to eat (so live) or not to eat (so die), can link to Rm.14:5. It can also link to human traditions: cannibal tribes would inculcate their children with a taste for eating human bodies; our 'tribe' would inculcate our children with a distaste for eating human bodies. Offer me human flesh and I might puke. That does not mean that eating human flesh is sin. Are my distastes, sin, and my tastes sinless?No. The idea of unclean vs clean doesn't even enter into the equation. It's that humans are made in God's image, we are not animals, and we were never given for food. Again, it's only seen in Scripture as an utter evil and horrible act to commit, a curse from God for sin.
If I was ever in a lifeboat and someone dies, I would rather die than eat them.
Sorry no.I think that we would agree that some "thing" killed them, does not mean some "one" killed them. Natural death is not per se murder. Your fuller argument might be that it's unhygienic to eat the naturally died body of a human being (or rabbit, whatever).
But would it be sinful if, say, you prevented someone else in the boat (to keep this Moby Dick setting) from eating the human body to survive? Is the human body itself, sacrosanct? Is the human-to-body, akin to car-to-driver? The car in the scrap yard, is not the driver in the scrapyard - the driver has departed.
It was with isreal as they rebelled and both isreal and Judah were forced too.this was to show them how hard the judgment was from God .you like to serve baal.now you shall consume the very children you offered to baal to have !No. The idea of unclean vs clean doesn't even enter into the equation. It's that humans are made in God's image, we are not animals, and we were never given for food. Again, it's only seen in Scripture as an utter evil and horrible act to commit, a curse from God for sin.
If I was ever in a lifeboat and someone dies, I would rather die than eat them.