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Is Jesus God?

Amen.
One of the most powerful witnesses to the Deity of the Messiah is Isaiah 9:6-7, a text written nearly eight hundred years before the birth of the Lord Jesus. The prophet Isaiah says that a child will be born who is none other than the Mighty God coming to rule on David’s throne forever!

"For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God (El Gibbor), Everlasting Father (Abi Ad), Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government and peace there will be no end. He will reign on David's throne and over his kingdom, establishing and upholding it with justice and righteousness from that time on and forever. The zeal of the LORD Almighty will accomplish this." Isaiah 9:6-7

What makes this all the more amazing is that Isaiah takes every one of these titles and applies them to the one true God Yahweh:

"In that day the remnant of Israel, the survivors of the house of Jacob, will no longer rely on him who struck them down but will truly rely on the LORD, the Holy One of Israel. A remnant will return, a remnant of Jacob will return to the Mighty God." Isaiah 10:20-21

"O LORD, You are my God. I will exalt You, I will praise Your name, For You have done wonderful things; Your counsels of old are faithfulness and truth." Isaiah 25:1 NKJV

"All this also comes from the LORD Almighty, wonderful in counsel and magnificent in wisdom." Isaiah 28:29

"For thus says the High and Lofty One Who inhabits eternity, whose name is Holy: ‘I dwell in the high and holy place, With him who has a contrite and humble spirit, To revive the spirit of the humble, And to revive the heart of the contrite ones.’" Isaiah 57:15 NKJV

"But you are our Father, though Abraham does not know us or Israel acknowledge us; you, O LORD, are our Father, our Redeemer from of old is your name." Isaiah 63:16

And even though the title Prince, Sar, is not used of God in Isaiah it is found in Daniel 8:11, 25:

"It set itself up to be as great as the Prince of the host; it took away the daily sacrifice from him, and the place of his sanctuary was brought low... He will cause deceit to prosper, and he will consider himself superior. When they feel secure, he will destroy many and take his stand against the Prince of princes. Yet he will be destroyed, but not by human power."

The phrase, "Prince of princes," is simply another way of saying that Yahweh is the God of gods or Lord of lords:

"For the LORD your God is God of gods and Lord of lords, the great God, mighty and awesome, who shows no partiality and accepts no bribes." Deuteronomy 10:17

"Give thanks to the God of gods. His love endures forever. Give thanks to the Lord of lords: His love endures forever." Psalm 136:2-3

Amazingly, the title "Lord of lords" is used for the Lord Jesus in the NT writings since he is the sovereign Ruler over all those who reign, whether in the heavenly places or on the earth!

"I charge you in the presence of God, who gives life to all things, and of Christ Jesus, who testified the good confession before Pontius Pilate, that you keep the commandment without stain or reproach until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ, which He will bring about at the proper time--He who is the blessed and only Sovereign, the King of kings and Lord of lords, who alone possesses immortality and dwells in unapproachable light, whom no man has seen or can see To Him be honor and eternal dominion! Amen." 1 Timothy 6:13-16 NASB

"Grace and peace to you from him who is, and who was, and who is to come, and from the seven spirits before his throne, and from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth." Revelation 1:5

"They will make war against the Lamb, but the Lamb will overcome them because he is Lord of lords and King of kings—and with him will be his called, chosen and faithful followers." Revelation 17:14

"I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and makes war. His eyes are like blazing fire, and on his head are many crowns. He has a name written on him that no one knows but he himself. He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God. The armies of heaven were following him, riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean. Out of his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations. 'He will rule them with an iron scepter.' He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God Almighty. On his robe and on his thigh he has this name written: KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS." Revelation 19:16

Johann.
 
I can tell the difference-and the third time now-I have given you the Scripture references that supports the Scriptural claim-an aside-I don't appreciate that "tone" and the demand-so I would suggest you calm down or don't tag me.

Good?
Johann.
This is the 3rd time I am asking you to support your own claim with your own words and explain your own reasoning, instead of asking me to do it for you. Are you demanding me to do it for you?
 
You have made a claim but you refused to explain your own reasoning for your belief. Is this your standing practice of debate?
You are not debating-you are demanding- and judging from your one or two liners I would say you are a man of few words and I don't pontificate or philosophize when it came to what stands written-Perfect Tense.
Now I don't know who you are-but if you should continue to tag me on ignore you go.

I suggest you go to my very "demanding" profile and look up under my post contents.

An aside-I am all for a good, healthy edifying debate with everyone and can agree to disagree with anyone who don't hold to what stands written in Scriptures.

Johann.
 
I can tell the difference-and the third time now-I have given you the Scripture references that supports the Scriptural claim-an aside-I don't appreciate that "tone" and the demand-so I would suggest you calm down or don't tag me.

Good?
Johann.
Johann
You are new here so I'd like you to know that this THEOLOGY FORUM is a serious forum.
You're required to post scripture to support your statements and to treat others with respect, which you have been doing.

If another member asks for clarification you should comply otherwise it becomes an argument.
 
I will-not now brother-at the moment careful not to engage as some here do not believe in the pre-existence of Jesus Christ-our great God and Savior.
In due time I will post more on Jesus is YHVH.
Shalom brother.
Johann.
Here is a short excerpt-
The prophetic writings attest that the only God who is able to save sinners, and the only One who actually did save Israel, is YHWH Almighty. This is why YHWH exhorts all the nations to turn to him since they have no other god that can save them:

“‘You are My witnesses,’ declares Yahweh, ‘And My servant whom I have chosen, So that you may know and believe Me And understand that I am He. Before Me there was no god formed, And there will be none after Me. I, even I, am Yahweh, And there is no savior besides Me… I, even I, am the one who wipes out your transgressions for My own sake, And I will not remember your sins.’” Isaiah 43:10-11, 25 LSB

“Declare and draw near with your case; Indeed, let them consult together. Who has made this heard from of old? Who has long since declared it? Is it not I, Yahweh? And there is no other God besides Me, A righteous God and a Savior; There is none except Me. Turn to Me and be saved, all the ends of the earth; For I am God, and there is no other.” Isaiah 45:21-22 LSB

“Yet I have been Yahweh your God Since the land of Egypt; And you were not to know any god except Me, And there is no savior besides Me.” Hosea 13:4 LSB

Remarkably, the Apostle Peter proclaimed that the risen Jesus is the only Person and name that are capable of saving anyone in all the earth!

“On the morrow their rulers and elders and scribes were gathered together in Jerusalem, with Annas the high priest and Ca′iaphas and John and Alexander, and all who were of the high-priestly family. And when they had set them in the midst, they inquired, ‘By what power or by what name did you do this?’Then Peter, filled with the Holy Spirit, said to them, ‘Rulers of the people and elders,if we are being examined today concerning a good deed done to a cripple, by what means this man has been healed, be it known to you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead, by him this man is standing before you well. This is the stone which was rejected by you builders, but which has become the head of the corner.And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.’ Now when they saw the boldness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were uneducated, common men, they wondered; and they recognized that they had been with Jesus. But seeing the man that had been healed standing beside them, they had nothing to say in opposition.” Acts 4:5-14

Seeing that the Apostles were monotheistic Jews preaching to other monotheistic Jews, they would have known from the Hebrew Bible that it is YHWH and his name alone that is able to save anyone throughout the world. Therefore, if Jesus is a mere creature than his disciples would have been guilty of blaspheming the God of Israel by ascribing to a creature an exclusively unique divine function, which would be idolatry.

What this shows is that the only way that the Apostles could have attributed such divine characteristics and abilities to Christ is if they did not think Jesus was merely human. Rather, they must have come to believe that the Son is indeed YHWH Almighty who became flesh, the very God of Israel that became Man for the redemption of humanity, God’s beloved Son who is essentially one with his Father in nature.

Lo and behold, that is precisely what the holy Apostle proclaimed in his second inspired epistle to believers!

“Simeon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who have obtained a faith of equal standing with ours in the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ (tou Theou hemon kai Soteros ‘Iesou Christou)… so there will be richly provided for you an entrance into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ (tou Kyriou hemon kai Soteros ‘Iesou Christou).” 2 Peter 1:1, 11 RSV


“But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ (tou Kyriou hemon kai Soteros ‘Iesou Christou). To him be the glory both now and to the day of eternity. Amen.” 2 Peter 3:18 RSV

Peter not only identifies Jesus as the Lord, God and Savior of all believers, who possesses an everlasting kingdom, the inspired Apostle even concludes his letter by ascribing a doxology to the risen Christ!

Seeing that doxologies are ascriptions of praise given to YHWH Alone, this again reinforces the fact that Jesus’ very own Jewish followers started worshiping God’s Son as the human incarnation of YHWH Almighty.

There’s simply no way around this divinely revealed fact.

Just something to think and pray about wondering
 
Johann
You are new here so I'd like you to know that this THEOLOGY FORUM is a serious forum.
You're required to post scripture to support your statements and to treat others with respect, which you have been doing.

If another member asks for clarification you should comply otherwise it becomes an argument.
And I have given the Scriptures to this brother-I have made a claim-and given the Scripture references-
CHRIST’S DEITY: A BIBLICAL OUTLINE
This is a short outline to be used in discussions and debates. The texts listed are meant to be expounded and exegeted during these discussions/debates.

1. JESUS IS YHWH GOD

Matthew 1:21-23 (Cf. 28:20; Psalm 130:7-8); Mark 1:1-8; Luke 3:1-6, 15-17; Acts 19:4; John 1:23, 26-36 (Cf. Isaiah 40:3-5); Luke 7:11-23 (Cf. Isa. 35:3-6); John 20:28 (Cf. Psalm 35:23); Romans 10:9-13 (Cf. Joel 2:32); Ephesians 4:7-10 (Cf. Psalm 68:18; Jeremiah 23:23-24); Philippians 2:9-11 (Cf. Isa. 45:23; Rom. 14:10-12; 2 Cor. 5:10); 1 Peter 1:10-12 (Cf. 2 Samuel 23:1-3; Nehemiah 9:20, 30; Isa. 48:16; 61:1; Micah 3:8; Zechariah 7:12); 1 Pet. 2:3 (Cf. Psalm 34:8).

1B. JESUS IS CALLED GOD IN AN ABSOLUTE SENSE

Isa. 9:6-7 (Cf. 10:20-21; Psalm 24:8; Jer. 32:18); Matt. 1:22-23; John 1:1; Acts 20:28; Rom. 9:5; Titus 2:13; Heb. 1:8-9; 1 John 5:20 (Cf. 1:2); 2 Peter 1:1.

1C. JESUS IS IDENTIFIED AS THE ONE AND ONLY LORD (YHWH)

1 Cor. 8:6b; Eph. 4:5; Jude 1:4 (Cf. Deut. 6:4; Neh. 9:6; Zech. 14:9).

2. JESUS IS THE UNCHANGEABLE CREATOR AND SUSTAINER

John 1:3-4, 9-10, 14; 1 Cor. 8:6b; Col. 1:16-17; Heb. 1:2-3, 10-12; 3:3-4 (Cf. 11:3; Genesis 1:1-2:7, 19-22; Neh. 9:6; Job 9:8; 10:8-12; Psalm 36:9; 102:25-27; Isa. 42:5; 45:12, 18; 48:13; 66:1-2; Jer. 10:10-12; Matt. 19:4-6; Acts 17:24-29; Eph. 3:9; Revelation 4:11).

3. JESUS POSSESSES DIVINE TITLES AND ATTRIBUTES

A. The Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End (Rev. 1:7-8, 17-18; 2:8; 22:12-13, 16, 20 – Cf. 21:6-7; Isa. 41:4; 44:6; 48:12).

B. King of kings and Lord of lords (Cf. 1 Tim. 6:14-16; Rev. 17:14; 19:11-16 – Cf. Deut. 10:17; Psalm 136:3; Dan. 2:37).

C. The Amen and the Faithful and True Witness (Rev. 3:14 – Cf. Isa. 65:16-17; Jer. 42:5).

D. Omnipotent, omniscience, omnipresence (Matt. 8:5-13; 18:20; 28:20; Mark 2:8-9; 7:24-30; John 1:45-49; 4:43-54; 5:16-29; 6:39-44, 53-54, 57; 10:27-33; 11:25-26; 14:1-6, 20-23; 16:25-31; 17:2, 20-23; 21:17; 2 Cor. 13:5; Col. 1:16-17, 27; 2:2-3, 9; 3:11; Heb. 1:2-3, 10-12; Rev. 1:18; 2:18-23).

E. The Lord/Owner of all Creation (heavens and earth), of the sabbath and the temple (Matt. 11:10, 27; 12:6, 8; 28:18; Mark 1:2; 2:28; Luke 6:5; 7:27; 10:22; Acts 10:36; Rom. 14:9).

F. I AM sayings (Matt. 14:27; Mark 6:50; John 6:20; 8:24, 28, 58; 13:19; 18:5-6, 8 – Cf. Deut. 32:39; Isa. 41:4; 43:10, 13; 45:18; 46:4; 51:12; 52:6 [47:8, 10; Zephaniah 2:15]).

G. YHWH’s Spirit is the Spirit of Jesus (Rom. 8:9-11; Gal. 4:6; Phil. 1:19; 1 Peter 1:11-12).

H. The Judge of all creation (Matt. 16:27; 25:31-46; John 5:22, 27; Acts 10:42; 17:30-31; 1 Cor. 4:3-5; 2 Cor. 5:10; 1 Thess. 1:9-10; 4:13-18; 5:1-11, 23; 2 Thess. 1:5-10; 2:1-4, 8; 2 Tim. 4:1; Rev. 2:23 – Cf. Gen. 18:25; Psalm 9:7-8; 62:12; 96:13; 98:9; Prov. 24:12; Isa. 40:10; 62:11; Jer. 11:20; 17:10; 29:23; Joel 3:1-2, 11-13).

I. The Day of YHWH is the Day of Jesus Christ (1 Cor. 1:7-8; 5:5; Phil. 1:6-11; 2:16 – Cf. Amos 5:18-20; Zephaniah 1:7-9, 14-17).

His point of contention-and I asked him to LOOK up the Scripture references. Take note the rest of the post he ignores. I am not the one being divisive here wondering.
Shalom
Johann.


J. The Savior and Forgiver of sins (Matt. 1:21; Mark 2:5, 10; Luke 7:48-50; 24:44-47; John 3:16-17; 4:42; Acts 3:26; 5:31; 13:38-39; 15:11; 16:30-31; 20:28; 26:18; Rom. 3:21-26; 5:8-21; 6:23; Gal. 1:4; 2:20; Eph. 1:6-7; 4:32; 5:1-2, 23; Col. 1:13-14, 19-20; 3:13; Titus 2:14; 1 Tim. 1:15-16; 2:5-6; 2 Tim. 1:7-12; 4:8, 18; Heb. 1:3; 2:9-18; 4:14-16; 7:23-28; 9:14, 22-28; 10:10, 14-18; 1 Pet. 1:18-19; 2:21-24; 3:18-22; 1 John 1:7; 2:1-2, 12; 4:9-10, 14; Rev. 1:6; 7:9-17 – Cf. Exod. 19:5-6; Psalm 25:11; 54:1; 78:38; 79:9; 130:3-4, 8; Isa. 43:10-11, 25; 45:21-22; Hos. 13:4-5; Matt. 19:25-26).

K. The Husband/Bridegroom (Mark 2:18-20; Eph. 5:25-33; Rev. 19:7-9; 21:1-2, 9-14 – Cf. Isa. 54:5; Hos. 2:16-19).

4. JESUS IS WORSHIPED AS YHWH GOD AND AS THE FATHER’S EQUAL

John 5:23; Rev. 5:8-14; Matt. 10:37-39; 16:24-26; Luke 14:26-27; 21:15-16 (Cf. Psalm 8:1-2); Acts 7:59-60 (Cf. Psalm 31:5; Ecclesiastes 12:7); Acts 9:14, 21; 1 Cor. 1:2 (Cf. Gen. 12:8; 21:33; Deut. 4:7; Psalm 99:6-7; 116:1-4, 13, 17; 145:18); Heb. 1:6 (Cf. Deut. 32:43; Psalm 97:7).

See also: Matt. 2:2, 8, 11; 9:18; 14:33; 15:25; 20:20; 28:9, 17-20; Mark 5:6-7; John 9:35-38; 14:12-14; 1 Cor. 1:3; 16:22-23; 2 Cor. 12:7-10; 13:14; 1 Thess. 1:1; 3:11-13; 2 Thess. 1:1-2, 12; 2:16-17; 2 Tim. 4:1, 8, 18; 2 Pet. 3:18; 2 John 1:3; Rev. 1:4-6; 22:20-21.
 
Here is a short excerpt-
The prophetic writings attest that the only God who is able to save sinners, and the only One who actually did save Israel, is YHWH Almighty. This is why YHWH exhorts all the nations to turn to him since they have no other god that can save them:

“‘You are My witnesses,’ declares Yahweh, ‘And My servant whom I have chosen, So that you may know and believe Me And understand that I am He. Before Me there was no god formed, And there will be none after Me. I, even I, am Yahweh, And there is no savior besides Me… I, even I, am the one who wipes out your transgressions for My own sake, And I will not remember your sins.’” Isaiah 43:10-11, 25 LSB

“Declare and draw near with your case; Indeed, let them consult together. Who has made this heard from of old? Who has long since declared it? Is it not I, Yahweh? And there is no other God besides Me, A righteous God and a Savior; There is none except Me. Turn to Me and be saved, all the ends of the earth; For I am God, and there is no other.” Isaiah 45:21-22 LSB

“Yet I have been Yahweh your God Since the land of Egypt; And you were not to know any god except Me, And there is no savior besides Me.” Hosea 13:4 LSB


Remarkably, the Apostle Peter proclaimed that the risen Jesus is the only Person and name that are capable of saving anyone in all the earth!

“On the morrow their rulers and elders and scribes were gathered together in Jerusalem, with Annas the high priest and Ca′iaphas and John and Alexander, and all who were of the high-priestly family. And when they had set them in the midst, they inquired, ‘By what power or by what name did you do this?’Then Peter, filled with the Holy Spirit, said to them, ‘Rulers of the people and elders,if we are being examined today concerning a good deed done to a cripple, by what means this man has been healed, be it known to you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead, by him this man is standing before you well. This is the stone which was rejected by you builders, but which has become the head of the corner.And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.’ Now when they saw the boldness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were uneducated, common men, they wondered; and they recognized that they had been with Jesus. But seeing the man that had been healed standing beside them, they had nothing to say in opposition.” Acts 4:5-14

Seeing that the Apostles were monotheistic Jews preaching to other monotheistic Jews, they would have known from the Hebrew Bible that it is YHWH and his name alone that is able to save anyone throughout the world. Therefore, if Jesus is a mere creature than his disciples would have been guilty of blaspheming the God of Israel by ascribing to a creature an exclusively unique divine function, which would be idolatry.

What this shows is that the only way that the Apostles could have attributed such divine characteristics and abilities to Christ is if they did not think Jesus was merely human. Rather, they must have come to believe that the Son is indeed YHWH Almighty who became flesh, the very God of Israel that became Man for the redemption of humanity, God’s beloved Son who is essentially one with his Father in nature.

Lo and behold, that is precisely what the holy Apostle proclaimed in his second inspired epistle to believers!

“Simeon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who have obtained a faith of equal standing with ours in the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ (tou Theou hemon kai Soteros ‘Iesou Christou)… so there will be richly provided for you an entrance into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ (tou Kyriou hemon kai Soteros ‘Iesou Christou).” 2 Peter 1:1, 11 RSV


“But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ (tou Kyriou hemon kai Soteros ‘Iesou Christou). To him be the glory both now and to the day of eternity. Amen.” 2 Peter 3:18 RSV

Peter not only identifies Jesus as the Lord, God and Savior of all believers, who possesses an everlasting kingdom, the inspired Apostle even concludes his letter by ascribing a doxology to the risen Christ!


Seeing that doxologies are ascriptions of praise given to YHWH Alone, this again reinforces the fact that Jesus’ very own Jewish followers started worshiping God’s Son as the human incarnation of YHWH Almighty.


There’s simply no way around this divinely revealed fact.

Just something to think and pray about wondering
I think I understand.
You're free to post what you believe.
Use scripture and be nice!
 
And I have given the Scriptures to this brother-I have made a claim-and given the Scripture references-
CHRIST’S DEITY: A BIBLICAL OUTLINE
This is a short outline to be used in discussions and debates. The texts listed are meant to be expounded and exegeted during these discussions/debates.

1. JESUS IS YHWH GOD

Matthew 1:21-23 (Cf. 28:20; Psalm 130:7-8); Mark 1:1-8; Luke 3:1-6, 15-17; Acts 19:4; John 1:23, 26-36 (Cf. Isaiah 40:3-5); Luke 7:11-23 (Cf. Isa. 35:3-6); John 20:28 (Cf. Psalm 35:23); Romans 10:9-13 (Cf. Joel 2:32); Ephesians 4:7-10 (Cf. Psalm 68:18; Jeremiah 23:23-24); Philippians 2:9-11 (Cf. Isa. 45:23; Rom. 14:10-12; 2 Cor. 5:10); 1 Peter 1:10-12 (Cf. 2 Samuel 23:1-3; Nehemiah 9:20, 30; Isa. 48:16; 61:1; Micah 3:8; Zechariah 7:12); 1 Pet. 2:3 (Cf. Psalm 34:8).

1B. JESUS IS CALLED GOD IN AN ABSOLUTE SENSE

Isa. 9:6-7 (Cf. 10:20-21; Psalm 24:8; Jer. 32:18); Matt. 1:22-23; John 1:1; Acts 20:28; Rom. 9:5; Titus 2:13; Heb. 1:8-9; 1 John 5:20 (Cf. 1:2); 2 Peter 1:1.

1C. JESUS IS IDENTIFIED AS THE ONE AND ONLY LORD (YHWH)

1 Cor. 8:6b; Eph. 4:5; Jude 1:4 (Cf. Deut. 6:4; Neh. 9:6; Zech. 14:9).

2. JESUS IS THE UNCHANGEABLE CREATOR AND SUSTAINER

John 1:3-4, 9-10, 14; 1 Cor. 8:6b; Col. 1:16-17; Heb. 1:2-3, 10-12; 3:3-4 (Cf. 11:3; Genesis 1:1-2:7, 19-22; Neh. 9:6; Job 9:8; 10:8-12; Psalm 36:9; 102:25-27; Isa. 42:5; 45:12, 18; 48:13; 66:1-2; Jer. 10:10-12; Matt. 19:4-6; Acts 17:24-29; Eph. 3:9; Revelation 4:11).

3. JESUS POSSESSES DIVINE TITLES AND ATTRIBUTES

A. The Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End (Rev. 1:7-8, 17-18; 2:8; 22:12-13, 16, 20 – Cf. 21:6-7; Isa. 41:4; 44:6; 48:12).

B. King of kings and Lord of lords (Cf. 1 Tim. 6:14-16; Rev. 17:14; 19:11-16 – Cf. Deut. 10:17; Psalm 136:3; Dan. 2:37).

C. The Amen and the Faithful and True Witness (Rev. 3:14 – Cf. Isa. 65:16-17; Jer. 42:5).

D. Omnipotent, omniscience, omnipresence (Matt. 8:5-13; 18:20; 28:20; Mark 2:8-9; 7:24-30; John 1:45-49; 4:43-54; 5:16-29; 6:39-44, 53-54, 57; 10:27-33; 11:25-26; 14:1-6, 20-23; 16:25-31; 17:2, 20-23; 21:17; 2 Cor. 13:5; Col. 1:16-17, 27; 2:2-3, 9; 3:11; Heb. 1:2-3, 10-12; Rev. 1:18; 2:18-23).

E. The Lord/Owner of all Creation (heavens and earth), of the sabbath and the temple (Matt. 11:10, 27; 12:6, 8; 28:18; Mark 1:2; 2:28; Luke 6:5; 7:27; 10:22; Acts 10:36; Rom. 14:9).

F. I AM sayings (Matt. 14:27; Mark 6:50; John 6:20; 8:24, 28, 58; 13:19; 18:5-6, 8 – Cf. Deut. 32:39; Isa. 41:4; 43:10, 13; 45:18; 46:4; 51:12; 52:6 [47:8, 10; Zephaniah 2:15]).

G. YHWH’s Spirit is the Spirit of Jesus (Rom. 8:9-11; Gal. 4:6; Phil. 1:19; 1 Peter 1:11-12).

H. The Judge of all creation (Matt. 16:27; 25:31-46; John 5:22, 27; Acts 10:42; 17:30-31; 1 Cor. 4:3-5; 2 Cor. 5:10; 1 Thess. 1:9-10; 4:13-18; 5:1-11, 23; 2 Thess. 1:5-10; 2:1-4, 8; 2 Tim. 4:1; Rev. 2:23 – Cf. Gen. 18:25; Psalm 9:7-8; 62:12; 96:13; 98:9; Prov. 24:12; Isa. 40:10; 62:11; Jer. 11:20; 17:10; 29:23; Joel 3:1-2, 11-13).

I. The Day of YHWH is the Day of Jesus Christ (1 Cor. 1:7-8; 5:5; Phil. 1:6-11; 2:16 – Cf. Amos 5:18-20; Zephaniah 1:7-9, 14-17).

His point of contention-and I asked him to LOOK up the Scripture references. Take note the rest of the post he ignores. I am not the one being divisive here wondering.
Shalom
Johann.


J. The Savior and Forgiver of sins (Matt. 1:21; Mark 2:5, 10; Luke 7:48-50; 24:44-47; John 3:16-17; 4:42; Acts 3:26; 5:31; 13:38-39; 15:11; 16:30-31; 20:28; 26:18; Rom. 3:21-26; 5:8-21; 6:23; Gal. 1:4; 2:20; Eph. 1:6-7; 4:32; 5:1-2, 23; Col. 1:13-14, 19-20; 3:13; Titus 2:14; 1 Tim. 1:15-16; 2:5-6; 2 Tim. 1:7-12; 4:8, 18; Heb. 1:3; 2:9-18; 4:14-16; 7:23-28; 9:14, 22-28; 10:10, 14-18; 1 Pet. 1:18-19; 2:21-24; 3:18-22; 1 John 1:7; 2:1-2, 12; 4:9-10, 14; Rev. 1:6; 7:9-17 – Cf. Exod. 19:5-6; Psalm 25:11; 54:1; 78:38; 79:9; 130:3-4, 8; Isa. 43:10-11, 25; 45:21-22; Hos. 13:4-5; Matt. 19:25-26).

K. The Husband/Bridegroom (Mark 2:18-20; Eph. 5:25-33; Rev. 19:7-9; 21:1-2, 9-14 – Cf. Isa. 54:5; Hos. 2:16-19).

4. JESUS IS WORSHIPED AS YHWH GOD AND AS THE FATHER’S EQUAL

John 5:23; Rev. 5:8-14; Matt. 10:37-39; 16:24-26; Luke 14:26-27; 21:15-16 (Cf. Psalm 8:1-2); Acts 7:59-60 (Cf. Psalm 31:5; Ecclesiastes 12:7); Acts 9:14, 21; 1 Cor. 1:2 (Cf. Gen. 12:8; 21:33; Deut. 4:7; Psalm 99:6-7; 116:1-4, 13, 17; 145:18); Heb. 1:6 (Cf. Deut. 32:43; Psalm 97:7).

See also: Matt. 2:2, 8, 11; 9:18; 14:33; 15:25; 20:20; 28:9, 17-20; Mark 5:6-7; John 9:35-38; 14:12-14; 1 Cor. 1:3; 16:22-23; 2 Cor. 12:7-10; 13:14; 1 Thess. 1:1; 3:11-13; 2 Thess. 1:1-2, 12; 2:16-17; 2 Tim. 4:1, 8, 18; 2 Pet. 3:18; 2 John 1:3; Rev. 1:4-6; 22:20-21.
It's a lot to read.
Maybe be more specific with only 1 or 2 verses?
The other member is a good member as I believe you are also.
 
It's a lot to read.
Maybe be more specific with only 1 or 2 verses?
The other member is a good member as I believe you are also.
Right-here goes-are you saying I must give an answer in a one or two liner sentence? I was in many debates myself with Muslims and rabbis-one-two liner apologia?

Impossible! This topic is dear to my heart-and maybe-God willing-there are others who WILL read and come to a saving knowledge of our Lord and great GOD and Savior-Jesus Christ.
All good between us?
I know my profile pic is "intimidating" but Rocky Balboa is not ME-
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I. The Day of YHWH is the Day of Jesus Christ (1 Cor. 1:7-8; 5:5; Phil. 1:6-11; 2:16 – Cf. Amos 5:18-20; Zephaniah 1:7-9, 14-17).

His point of contention-and I asked him to LOOK up the Scripture references. Take note the rest of the post he ignores. I am not the one being divisive here wondering.
Shalom
Johann.

I believe I was polite in asking him to look up what-say7 Scripture references? Now THAT surely cannot mean too much-and to much to ask sister?



Johann.
 
I'm sorry J.
I meant what you believe to be true.
I think you may be a little too scholarly for me!
No pride or boasting here-hermeneutics-foreign to most I believe-and I don't claim to have MY theology perfect-we need each other in this heavenly race dear sister in Christ.
Can you understand why I am a bit reluctant to engage?
Yours in Christ.
Johann.
 
It's a lot to read.
Maybe be more specific with only 1 or 2 verses?
The other member is a good member as I believe you are also.
I have no doubt about that.

1Pe 3:15 But reverence in your levavot Rebbe, Melech HaMoshiach as Adoneinu, prepared always for a hitstaddekut (an apologetic defense) to everyone coming to you with a she'elah (question), ready with a word concerning the tikvah in you,
1Pe 3:16 But with anavah (meekness) and yirat Shomayim, having a clear matzpun (conscience [3:21]), so that, when you are maligned by lashon hora, your abusers may be humiliated by your midas chasidus in Moshiach.

1Pe 3:15 But separate, Give Him His right place, the Christ as Lord in your hearts: and be ready always for an answer to every man that asketh you an account concerning the hope that is in you with humility and fear:

1Pe 3:16 Having a good conscience; in order that, in what they speak evil of you, as of evildoers, they may be ashamed that calumniate your good behavior in Christ.

Shalom
J.
 
1Pe 3:15 But reverence in your levavot Rebbe, Melech HaMoshiach as Adoneinu, prepared always for a hitstaddekut (an apologetic defense) to everyone coming to you with a she'elah (question), ready with a word concerning the tikvah in you,
Ok . now I know this verse above is the Orthodox Jewish Bible translation . OJB .

1Pe 3:15 But separate, Give Him His right place, the Christ as Lord in your hearts: and be ready always for an answer to every man that asketh you an account concerning the hope that is in you with humility and fear:
I have searched and can not find what this one is , Johann!@# what translation is it ?

https://biblehub.com/parallel/1_peter/3-15.htm One of my searches was this .
 
No pride or boasting here-hermeneutics-foreign to most I believe-and I don't claim to have MY theology perfect-we need each other in this heavenly race dear sister in Christ.
Can you understand why I am a bit reluctant to engage?
Yours in Christ.
Johann.
We have pretty intelligent folk here.
Hermeneutics are well known to most of us.
Yes, let's use each other to learn and continue in our walk.
 
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