Is Obama a Religious Man ??

[Matthew24:34]

Thankyou for your response, but I am a little confused at your point of view at the moment. You have not responded to the mocking of the Bible so I accept you are in agreement then that Obama mocks the Bible and the Christian faith. Killing and murder are two different things all together. I live in a country where there is no death penalty. Since the decision was taken to remove the death penalty countless South Africans have lost their lives to brutal and savage attacks.When the murderer is caught he spents the next 25 years in a prison that allows him the privilage of watching TV, Studying and LIVING A LIFE, a life that he took from another in a fashion you or any of us could not comprehend. Without a justice system that will deter these crimials, the murdering will continue (Unfortunalty the death penalty). Do you think GOD smiles on these actions of these murders. If someone is trying to kill me and I kill them in self defence is that the same as killing an unborn child. Abortions are only committed because society has lost its way and instead of trying to follow Gods Word society looks for the easy way out.
ABORTION = MURDER (yet its legal).
Do you support abortion? Do you support Obama? ( SAME QUESTION )
OBAMA IS NOT A CHRISTIAN, HIS ACTIONS TELL US THIS AND WE SHOULD NOT LEAN ON HIS EARTHLY WISDOM.
May God Bless you and your family

I would say Obama is as much a christian as Bush or any other US president in my lifetime.
Maybe if Obama started a war then people would believe hes born again like they say Mr Bush is.

Obama is not pro abortion.
He is pro choice.
If he were for abortion,he wouldnt have any children.

Just because Obama believes the US goverment shouldnt force a woman to bare a child doesnt mean he wants every woman to kill her unborn child.What you neglect to see is the choice.Did you know God gives some men the choice who they would serve?Just because he might give men a choice doesnt mean God supports the wrong choice.

:crazy

 

[parousia70]

The rub is in the mistaken notion that Republicans will do anything to end the legalization of US abortions.
30 years of Republican rule have proven the exact opposite.
Sure, they give lip service, but when the rubber meets the road, they will NEVER lift a finger to end US abortions.
Republican Party Leaders have absolutely ZERO intention of doing ANYTHING to end US abortions.
Why would they?
The anti abortion lobby is too big a cash cow for their re-election coffers, and that's all they have any more.

The end of legal abortions in the US would effectively end this otherwise endless source of revenue they now enjoy, and indeed are addicted to. They could care less about the fate of the unborn.

Shame on them.

 

[Matthew24:34]

The rub is in the mistaken notion that Republicans will do anything to end the legalization of US abortions.
30 years of Republican rule have proven the exact opposite.
Sure, they give lip service, but when the rubber meets the road, they will NEVER lift a finger to end US abortions.
Republican Party Leaders have absolutely ZERO intention of doing ANYTHING to end US abortions.
Why would they?
The anti abortion lobby is too big a cash cow for their re-election coffers, and that's all they have any more.

The end of legal abortions in the US would effectively end this otherwise endless source of revenue they now enjoy, and indeed are addicted to. They could care less about the fate of the unborn.

Shame on them.

Throw the bums out! Elephant and donkey alike!

 

[Osgiliath]

Originally posted by Matthew24:34
Throw the bums out! Elephant and donkey alike!

Amen to that! :amen

Time to clean house!

 

[Matthew24:34]

Originally posted by Matthew24:34
Throw the bums out! Elephant and donkey alike!

Amen to that! :amen

Time to clean house!

Is it November 2010 yet?

 

[Ed the Ned]

I would say Obama is as much a christian as Bush or any other US president in my lifetime.
Maybe if Obama started a war then people would believe hes born again like they say Mr Bush is.

Obama is not pro abortion.
He is pro choice.
If he were for abortion,he wouldnt have any children.

Just because Obama believes the US goverment shouldnt force a woman to bare a child doesnt mean he wants every woman to kill her unborn child.What you neglect to see is the choice.Did you know God gives some men the choice who they would serve?Just because he might give men a choice doesnt mean God supports the wrong choice.

With regards to Bush or any previous US President I don't know. I'm from another country where abortion is allowed. I vote for Political Parties that would ban it.

Definition of Pro-Choice: advocating a woman's right to control her own body (especially her right to an induced abortion)

This is not the right to have long or short hair, this is the right to kill an unwanted child. (Please do yourself a favour and google partial birth abortion)If a woman does not want to bare a child a woman should not concieve a child in the first place. I did not neglect to see choice, God gave us the choice to follow Christ or not to, but he also gave us consequences to those choices. Heaven or Hell. It would be my choice that every goverment in the world should view abortion as murder and both abortionist and the woman having the abortion should face the law and recieve the punishment. When Obama supports pro-choice and votes in favour of it he is giving the right for a woman to kill another human being. Who made him god?

May God Bless you and your family.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

I would say Obama is as much a christian as Bush or any other US president in my lifetime.
Maybe if Obama started a war then people would believe hes born again like they say Mr Bush is.

Obama is not pro abortion.
He is pro choice.
If he were for abortion,he wouldnt have any children.

Just because Obama believes the US goverment shouldnt force a woman to bare a child doesnt mean he wants every woman to kill her unborn child.What you neglect to see is the choice.Did you know God gives some men the choice who they would serve?Just because he might give men a choice doesnt mean God supports the wrong choice.

With regards to Bush or any previous US President I don't know. I'm from another country where abortion is allowed. I vote for Political Parties that would ban it.

Definition of Pro-Choice: advocating a woman's right to control her own body (especially her right to an induced abortion)

This is not the right to have long or short hair, this is the right to kill an unwanted child. (Please do yourself a favour and google partial birth abortion)If a woman does not want to bare a child a woman should not concieve a child in the first place. I did not neglect to see choice, God gave us the choice to follow Christ or not to, but he also gave us consequences to those choices. Heaven or Hell. It would be my choice that every goverment in the world should view abortion as murder and both abortionist and the woman having the abortion should face the law and recieve the punishment. When Obama supports pro-choice and votes in favour of it he is giving the right for a woman to kill another human being. Who made him god?

May God Bless you and your family.

So your saying if a woman kills her unborn child ,she cant follow Christ?
Im sure glad your not God.God is willing to forgive men thier depts where you want wrath quickly.
Perhaps you should face the law and recieve the punishment for the sins you have commited since that is what you want.You remind me of someone who thinks he is rightous.

 

[Ed the Ned]

So your saying if a woman kills her unborn child ,she cant follow Christ?
Im sure glad your not God.God is willing to forgive men thier depts where you want wrath quickly.
Perhaps you should face the law and recieve the punishment for the sins you have commited since that is what you want.You remind me of someone who thinks he is rightous.

I think somewhere we are missing the point, I am not saying that God won't forgive someone who has had an abortion nor I am not saying that I am not a sinner. I rely on God's grace and mercy daily. The point I am trying to put across is you cannot testify that you are a Christian as Obama has and still be an advocate for Murder(Abortion).
I personally believe that abortion is murder of an innocent child and yes I believe the laws of a country should convict and punish the guilty. God's forgiveness and mercy is between an individual and God. If we go back to Obama, his relationship with God is his business, but I also have to defend the faith and if he claims to be a Christian and is pro-choice then I will state my case that he is not of the faith. God does not support MURDER! (But does forgive the murderer if he/she seeks forgiveness and repents of their sin)

 

[Shilohsfoal]

Obama has and still be an advocate for Murder(Abortion).

If Obama is an advocate for murder then why havnt I ever heard him tell others to kill?
According to your thinking if God gave someone enough power to kill then that makes God an advocate of murder.

 

[Ed the Ned]

Definition of Abortion: An abortion is the termination of a pregnancy by the removal or expulsion from the uterus of a fetus/embryo, resulting in or caused by its death. An abortion can occur spontaneously due to complications during pregnancy or can be induced, in humans and other species. ...

We are talking about induced abortions by an abortionist because a woman does not want her child. Is the child alive prior to the abortion? Yes. Is it a human being in the Gods image? Yes. Do we have the right in Gods eyes to take the life of innocent child? No. Is it murder? Yes

If Obama is supporting the right for a woman to have and abortion, and even going so far as to support partial birth abortions, then in my eyes he is saying its OK to kill. Lets look at what he has to say!

“Look, I got two daughters  9 years old and 6 years old,†he said. “I am going to teach them first about values and morals, but if they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby. I don’t want them punished with an STD at age 16, so it doesn’t make sense to not give them information.â€Â

This was a quote about his daughters, if they make a mistake I don't want them punished with a baby. So obviously he believes that live on begins when a child breaths his first breath. No so. Have a look at his answer to the following question!

Q: Do you personally believe that life begins at conception?
A: This is something that I have not come to a firm resolution on. I think it’s very hard to know what that means, when life begins. Is it when a cell separates? Is it when the soul stirs? So I don’t presume to know the answer to that question. What I know is that there is something extraordinarily powerful about potential life and that that has a moral weight to it that we take into consideration when we’re having these debates.

He supports abortion yet has not even decided when life begins, maybe he should read the Bible. When do we say something is right or wrong, when do we stand our ground and say no this is not right? I am trying to understand the difference between being over judgmental myself and praying that God will help me, but I still feel to support abortion is un Christian. I am not a republican or a democrat so there is no political bantering from my side. Do some homework on abortion and make a choice for yourself whether Jesus would support it or whether he would want his name linked to it.
I pray that God will help you in this matter as he is assisting me with removing the log from my eye. May God bless you and keep you

 

[Shilohsfoal]

"Ed the Ned"
I am trying to understand the difference between being over judgmental myself and praying that God will help me, but I still feel to support abortion is un Christian. I am not a republican or a democrat so there is no political bantering from my side. Do some homework on abortion and make a choice for yourself whether Jesus would support it or whether he would want his name linked to it.I pray that God will help you in this matter as he is assisting me with removing the log from my eye. May God bless you and keep you

Ed ,I shouldnt have any say in what another human does with thier own body or what they do with what is thiers.I dont own them nor do I care to rule over them.Im wouldnt make a rape victim live with her shame the rest of her days and I feel that it is not my place to decide if she must or not.
I also am not republican or democrat.I dont vote for a common man to rule over me and I dont pledge my allegiance to a flag.