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Is 'Solidarity' The Same As Witnessing?

Why did we swerve away from the OP?

Is 'Solidarity' the Same as Witnessing?
Issue Date: May/June 2016

By: Gina Wilson

Amidst the growing number of Muslims in the United States, should we stand in solidarity with their faith? Or show them that we believe in something entirely different?

I have seen a number of stories in the news where a Christian woman wears a hijab (the Islamic women's head covering) to stand in "solidarity" with Muslims. One woman wore the hijab to show, in her words, that we all "worship the same God." Another woman did so in order to show that she loves Muslims and refugees. While I appreciate the "love and care" sentiment as much as the next person, there are some glaring reasons why this act of solidarity is not helpful in reaching Muslims for Christ.

The hijab is extremely representative of Islam. Before donning it, one must thoroughly examine everything this "solidarity" represents. Failing to do so will only display our own ignorance of the issue, as opposed to being a well thought-out and meaningful action which might help Muslims living near us realize we truly do love them.

The hijab is more than a head covering. In Islam, wearing the head covering is a symbol of submission to Allah. More than a symbol of subservience to one's husband (for in many cases it is not), the hijab broadcasts to the entire watching world that you, whoever you may be, are submitting to ALLAH!

For soul winners, a statement of "solidarity" with your Muslim neighbors and friends simply confuses the issue. What is helpful is developing solid friendships with them and having discussions about Jesus. When they understand that we believe Jesus is God Almighty it becomes clear to your Muslim friends that Allah and God are nowhere near the same, nor would you ever wish to submit to Allah. It helps them understand what you believe and, ultimately, will show them that you love them enough to make sure they know the truth and the good news of the gospel of Jesus Christ.

In my book, When the Mosque Comes to Town, I devote two chapters on how to share Jesus with your Muslim friends. These chapters will help you understand how to effectively witness and share who Jesus is, starting with the Old Testament prophecies and working your way through New Testament fulfillment. Muslims often question whether Jesus can really be God and few Christians succeed in effectively showing them why He, indeed, is. This is possibly one of the most crucial questions that you need to have an answer for when witnessing to Muslims.
 
turnorburn said:
Well your batting a thousand Obadiah I'm an ignorant cultist now.. because i choose to use the KJV and nothing more..
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No. You are an ignorant cultist if you insist that this is the only true and directly inspired word of God (so only you and your group are right while the rest of the world is wrong) and you venerate the book itself as a god (worshiping an inanimate object as a god) as do those who are truly indoctrinated by the cult of KJV Onlyism. I don't know if you do these things of not, but I didn't see you say that you do. However, if you choose to ignore the findings of those who have spent their lifetimes in study and formed opinions and conclusions, and you refuse to even listen to them and make rational informed decisions as to whether their findings are valid or not, then, yes, by the very definition of the word that makes you ignorant. Now notice, I didn't say you are doing this. I don't know if you are or not. I'm saying if you (or anyone) does this, this is ignorance.
 
turnorburn said:
Why did we swerve away from the OP?

Is 'Solidarity' the Same as Witnessing?
Issue Date: May/June 2016

By: Gina Wilson

Amidst the growing number of Muslims in the United States, should we stand in solidarity with their faith? Or show them that we believe in something entirely different?

I have seen a number of stories in the news where a Christian woman wears a hijab (the Islamic women's head covering) to stand in "solidarity" with Muslims. One woman wore the hijab to show, in her words, that we all "worship the same God." Another woman did so in order to show that she loves Muslims and refugees. While I appreciate the "love and care" sentiment as much as the next person, there are some glaring reasons why this act of solidarity is not helpful in reaching Muslims for Christ.

The hijab is extremely representative of Islam. Before donning it, one must thoroughly examine everything this "solidarity" represents. Failing to do so will only display our own ignorance of the issue, as opposed to being a well thought-out and meaningful action which might help Muslims living near us realize we truly do love them.

The hijab is more than a head covering. In Islam, wearing the head covering is a symbol of submission to Allah. More than a symbol of subservience to one's husband (for in many cases it is not), the hijab broadcasts to the entire watching world that you, whoever you may be, are submitting to ALLAH!

For soul winners, a statement of "solidarity" with your Muslim neighbors and friends simply confuses the issue. What is helpful is developing solid friendships with them and having discussions about Jesus. When they understand that we believe Jesus is God Almighty it becomes clear to your Muslim friends that Allah and God are nowhere near the same, nor would you ever wish to submit to Allah. It helps them understand what you believe and, ultimately, will show them that you love them enough to make sure they know the truth and the good news of the gospel of Jesus Christ.

In my book, When the Mosque Comes to Town, I devote two chapters on how to share Jesus with your Muslim friends. These chapters will help you understand how to effectively witness and share who Jesus is, starting with the Old Testament prophecies and working your way through New Testament fulfillment. Muslims often question whether Jesus can really be God and few Christians succeed in effectively showing them why He, indeed, is. This is possibly one of the most crucial questions that you need to have an answer for when witnessing to Muslims.
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We didn't. Your original OP brought up the subject. (Your original OP, not the modified version you presented in this post!) Had you not wanted to discuss this part of your OP, you should have removed it from the original.
 
There you go taking things for granted.. now can we get back on topic?

Is 'Solidarity' the Same as Witnessing?
Issue Date: May/June 2016

By: Gina Wilson

Amidst the growing number of Muslims in the United States, should we stand in solidarity with their faith? Or show them that we believe in something entirely different?

I have seen a number of stories in the news where a Christian woman wears a hijab (the Islamic women's head covering) to stand in "solidarity" with Muslims. One woman wore the hijab to show, in her words, that we all "worship the same God." Another woman did so in order to show that she loves Muslims and refugees. While I appreciate the "love and care" sentiment as much as the next person, there are some glaring reasons why this act of solidarity is not helpful in reaching Muslims for Christ.

The hijab is extremely representative of Islam. Before donning it, one must thoroughly examine everything this "solidarity" represents. Failing to do so will only display our own ignorance of the issue, as opposed to being a well thought-out and meaningful action which might help Muslims living near us realize we truly do love them.

The hijab is more than a head covering. In Islam, wearing the head covering is a symbol of submission to Allah. More than a symbol of subservience to one's husband (for in many cases it is not), the hijab broadcasts to the entire watching world that you, whoever you may be, are submitting to ALLAH!

For soul winners, a statement of "solidarity" with your Muslim neighbors and friends simply confuses the issue. What is helpful is developing solid friendships with them and having discussions about Jesus. When they understand that we believe Jesus is God Almighty it becomes clear to your Muslim friends that Allah and God are nowhere near the same, nor would you ever wish to submit to Allah. It helps them understand what you believe and, ultimately, will show them that you love them enough to make sure they know the truth and the good news of the gospel of Jesus Christ.

In my book, When the Mosque Comes to Town, I devote two chapters on how to share Jesus with your Muslim friends. These chapters will help you understand how to effectively witness and share who Jesus is, starting with the Old Testament prophecies and working your way through New Testament fulfillment. Muslims often question whether Jesus can really be God and few Christians succeed in effectively showing them why He, indeed, is. This is possibly one of the most crucial questions that you need to have an answer for when witnessing to Muslims.
 
turnorburn said:
There you go taking things for granted.. now can we get back on topic?

Is 'Solidarity' the Same as Witnessing?
Issue Date: May/June 2016

By: Gina Wilson

Amidst the growing number of Muslims in the United States, should we stand in solidarity with their faith? Or show them that we believe in something entirely different?

I have seen a number of stories in the news where a Christian woman wears a hijab (the Islamic women's head covering) to stand in "solidarity" with Muslims. One woman wore the hijab to show, in her words, that we all "worship the same God." Another woman did so in order to show that she loves Muslims and refugees. While I appreciate the "love and care" sentiment as much as the next person, there are some glaring reasons why this act of solidarity is not helpful in reaching Muslims for Christ.

The hijab is extremely representative of Islam. Before donning it, one must thoroughly examine everything this "solidarity" represents. Failing to do so will only display our own ignorance of the issue, as opposed to being a well thought-out and meaningful action which might help Muslims living near us realize we truly do love them.

The hijab is more than a head covering. In Islam, wearing the head covering is a symbol of submission to Allah. More than a symbol of subservience to one's husband (for in many cases it is not), the hijab broadcasts to the entire watching world that you, whoever you may be, are submitting to ALLAH!

For soul winners, a statement of "solidarity" with your Muslim neighbors and friends simply confuses the issue. What is helpful is developing solid friendships with them and having discussions about Jesus. When they understand that we believe Jesus is God Almighty it becomes clear to your Muslim friends that Allah and God are nowhere near the same, nor would you ever wish to submit to Allah. It helps them understand what you believe and, ultimately, will show them that you love them enough to make sure they know the truth and the good news of the gospel of Jesus Christ.

In my book, When the Mosque Comes to Town, I devote two chapters on how to share Jesus with your Muslim friends. These chapters will help you understand how to effectively witness and share who Jesus is, starting with the Old Testament prophecies and working your way through New Testament fulfillment. Muslims often question whether Jesus can really be God and few Christians succeed in effectively showing them why He, indeed, is. This is possibly one of the most crucial questions that you need to have an answer for when witnessing to Muslims.
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What is the topic? It's all copy and paste to advertise for a book.
 
Free said:
What is the topic? It's all copy and paste to advertise for a book.
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It gives us ideas about witnessing to Muslims.. myself i don't use these books i use my bible.. how do you witness to them Free maybe you could give us some pointers?
 
turnorburn said:
It gives us ideas about witnessing to Muslims.. myself i don't use these books i use my bible.. how do you witness to them Free maybe you could give us some pointers?
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I've never witnessed to a Muslim. I just don't cross paths with them. It's only ever been JWs and Mormons, in person.
 
turnorburn said:
There you go taking things for granted.. now can we get back on topic?
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Just because you don't agree with something someone says about your OP doesn't mean you can accuse them of being off topic. You don't own the thread and you can't dictate what anyone says that doesn't violate the Terms of Service. Read your original post here where you said:
turnorburn said:
tell them that you have the preserved Bible, the KJV, which is completely without error and can be traced all the way back to the earliest manuscripts we know of, including the Dead Sea Scrolls. When Muslims come to realize that God has, indeed, preserved His words, confidence in the Bible is restored and they are far more apt to listen to what you have to say.
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The entire premise of your OP boils down to this idea that you have to use the KJV since no other Bible is truly God's word. Maybe you should have been more careful about what you cut and pasted.
 
Free said:
No one is saying it does. I think you need to look up KJV Onlyism and see what it is about. You prefer the KJV, you are not a KJVOist.
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Yes, I prefer it for the KJV is the only one I will ever use as I do not like the more modern ones so according to Obadiah that makes me a cultist.
 
for_his_glory said:
Yes, I prefer it for the KJV is the only one I will ever use as I do not like the more modern ones so according to Obadiah that makes me a cultist.
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No, it doesn't. What Obadiah said does not apply to you; that was the whole point of my post.
 
Obadiah said:
Just because you don't agree with something someone says about your OP doesn't mean you can accuse them of being off topic. You don't own the thread and you can't dictate what anyone says that doesn't violate the Terms of Service. Read your original post here where you said:
The entire premise of your OP boils down to this idea that you have to use the KJV since no other Bible is truly God's word. Maybe you should have been more careful about what you cut and pasted.
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I've had a good long look at the other versions that's why i use my KJV.. now can we get back on topic?
 
Back to the OP,

2Corinthians 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? 15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? 16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. 17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you, 18 And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

Solidarity has nothing to do with witnessing Christ to others. We should never make union or sympathize with Muslims or any religion just to win them over to Christ as we need to be about our Father's business preaching the Gospels to those who will have ears to hear.
 
Obadiah said:
So then you admit that the book in your hand is actually your god and you worship it?
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I'm going to tell you a true story then you decide if it's my god that I worship.
I use to teach in the prisons in my area. I was teaching them how people put more emphasis on the book itself as being Holy more than God being the one who is Holy and to be worshipped. I stood up and picked up my Bible, dropped it to the floor and stood on it. Some where shocked that I desecrated the book, but others understood what I was teaching them of what is truly Holy and to be worshipped.

I will no more derail this thread like we all have and only reply to that of what is presented in the OP as solidarity being the same as witnessing to Muslims.
 
for_his_glory said:
I'm going to tell you a true story then you decide if it's my god that I worship.
I use to teach in the prisons in my area. I was teaching them how people put more emphasis on the book itself as being Holy more than God being the one who is Holy and to be worshipped. I stood up and picked up my Bible, dropped it to the floor and stood on it. Some where shocked that I desecrated the book, but others understood what I was teaching them of what is truly Holy and to be worshipped.

I will no more derail this thread like we all have and only reply to that of what is presented in the OP as solidarity being the same as witnessing to Muslims.
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See, that's what I thought. You don't worship it as a god, so you are not a cultist. I don't know why you would try to say you were.
 
Curious,I work with one freedom loving muslim. Her family loves america.

Her friends as well.met them at a veterans fundraiser
 
jasonc said:
Curious,I work with one freedom loving muslim. Her family loves america.

Her friends as well.met them at a veterans fundraiser
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From what I have read--from Christian authors--most Muslims that come to North America are moderates that are trying to escape the brutality and strictness of strong Muslim countries.
 
Free said:
From what I have read--from Christian authors--most Muslims that come to North America are moderates that are trying to escape the brutality and strictness of strong Muslim countries.
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My friend,may ,has been in america for a decade.I believe she holds a us citizenship.

I hardly see her.last time I talked to her was two weeks ago at the zero dark thirty event.she is Pakistani
 
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