[_ Old Earth _] Is the earth billions of years old?

[Dave Slayer]

Is the earth billions of years old?

 

[jwu]

Yes. What kind of evidence would you accept?

 

[kenan]

The answer is open to interpretation, and basically, you'll probably hear what you what to hear, if you know what I mean.

The Earth, Universe and all that is was created in 6 days by God. However, elsewhere it is said of God that "one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day" (II Peter 3:8).

 

[lordkalvan]

Multiple lines of independent evidence converge on an age for Earth and the Solar System that is wholly at variance with a 'young' Earth in creationist terms. Where would you like to start?

 

[Crying Rock]

The answer is open to interpretation, and basically, you'll probably hear what you what to hear, if you know what I mean.

The Earth, Universe and all that is was created in 6 days by God. However, elsewhere it is said of God that "one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day" (II Peter 3:8).

I've pondered this passage in the past.

I calculated, if true, then:

1000 years = 1 day

2,555,000,000 years= 2,555,000 days (7000 years)

Someone please check my math.

I've alluded to this time bit in another post:

viewtopic.php?f=19&t=36552

 

[Barbarian]

Seven thousand years is not Biblical; it's just someone's estimate of what the chronology would be. It varies a lot, depending on what assumptions you make.

 

[Crying Rock]

Seven thousand years is not Biblical; it's just someone's estimate of what the chronology would be. It varies a lot, depending on what assumptions you make.

Agreed. Just chatting here.

Let's look at it the other way around:

Earth's age = ca. 4,540,000,000 years (is that still the consensus?).

Taking II Peter 3:8 into account, this would translate to ca. 4,540,000 days or ca. 12,440 years.

Again, someone please check my math. I think I'm setting up this equation correctly.

2 Peter 3:8-9 (New International Version)

8 But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day. 9The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.

 

[GojuBrian]

Is the earth billions of years old?

I don't believe it is, but I don't think the age of the earth is an essential belief either.

 

[GojuBrian]

Here's one perspective.

http://www.answersingenesis.org/article ... d-is-earth

 

[Barbarian]

Ever since the people at AIG got caught altering the statements of scientists to make it look like they meant something they did not, no one with any sense trusts what they say.

Find a source that doesn't try to deceive you.

 

[GojuBrian]

Ever since the people at AIG got caught altering the statements of scientists to make it look like they meant something they did not, no one with any sense trusts what they say.

Find a source that doesn't try to deceive you.

I don't find their way any more deceiving than yours,thankyou.

 

[Barbarian]

I don't find their way any more deceiving than yours,thankyou.

I never say anything here I don't believe to be true. AIG has been caught in at least one blatant attempt to deceive. As of last month, the evidence was still on their website. Would you like to see it?

 

[GojuBrian]

Being an evolutionist and a christian is a much bigger attempt to deceive imo.

I don't keep up with what they do, I only offered it up as their opinion for people to look at. I never said if I agree or disagree with it. I do believe what the bible says and it says nothing about evolving from apes.

 

[lordkalvan]

Being an evolutionist and a christian is a much bigger attempt to deceive imo.

I don't keep up with what they do, I only offered it up as their opinion for people to look at. I never said if I agree or disagree with it. I do believe what the bible says and it says nothing about evolving from apes.

Depending upon how allegorically you regard the Bible, of course, neither does it say anything about not evolving from a common ancestor along with the other members of the Hominoidea. Genesis says nothing about the creative mechanism at all; why shouldn't it be evolution?

 

[GojuBrian]

Yeah!! maybe he made the earth with the big bang too!! :D

We were created in Gods image, not from a single cell organism that evolved over time. :halo

 

[Dave Slayer]

Well, the Bible doesn't say reincarnation doesn't happen, so we might as well teach that is true also. I will probably reincarnate into a skinny tree because I have skinny limbs. :P

 

[lordkalvan]

Yeah!! maybe he made the earth with the big bang too!! :D

We were created in Gods image, not from a single cell organism that evolved over time. :halo

The evidence tends against this opinion.

 

[lordkalvan]

Well, the Bible doesn't say reincarnation doesn't happen, so we might as well teach that is true also. I will probably reincarnate into a skinny tree because I have skinny limbs. :P

Lol. But the Bible does speak about the creation of life, without actually describing the mechanism for that creation. Does your understanding lead you to believe that God *poofed* life instantaneously out of nothing at all?

 

[GojuBrian]

Yeah!! maybe he made the earth with the big bang too!! :D

We were created in Gods image, not from a single cell organism that evolved over time. :halo

The evidence tends against this opinion.

Evidence? Darwin himself said that if we do not find fossils that prove transitional transfiguration within 100yrs then throw his theory out. It's been over 200yrs.

Your evidence starts with a belief and bases its findings on those beliefs.

Dave, ribbons of steeeeeelllll!!!!!

 

[lordkalvan]

Yeah!! maybe he made the earth with the big bang too!! :D

We were created in Gods image, not from a single cell organism that evolved over time. :halo

The evidence tends against this opinion.

Evidence? Darwin himself said that if we do not find fossils that prove transitional transfiguration within 100yrs then throw his theory out. It's been over 200yrs.....

Over 200 years since when? Darwin was only born 200 years ago. I would be interested in the source of this alleged remark.

You may find this article interesting.

At least hundreds, possibly thousands, of transitional fossils have been found so far by researchers. The exact count is unclear because some lineages of organisms are continuously evolving.

Source: http://www.livescience.com/animals/090211-transitional-fossils.html

It is also the case that, even in the absence of any fossils at all, the evidence for evolution is significant, including eviodence from research into evo-devo and molecular genetics.