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TonyChanYT said:
Right. See Did God create time?.
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When we look deep into soace, we're not looking at the past, except in the sense of what God "was". He was what he's always been.
We're looking at what is. We're seeing an image which had no beginning and has no end. It appears to be eternal,

For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, that is, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, being understood by what has been made.....Rom.1:20

Science has assumed the universe was once a singularity (one location.) it never was, but it came from a Singularity (One Person.)
 
TonyChanYT said:
Light (photons) existed in pre-eternity.

True?
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I am still talking time.

Revelation 21:23 kjv
23.

And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.

I have no idea about glory light.

The eyes of understanding being enlightened. ?

eddif
 
TonyChanYT said:
What is the speed of light?
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It's whatever God want's it to be, because from the beginning he put the stars where they are and they immediately shined their light on the earth. It didn't take eons for light to reach the earth,

God said, "Let there be lights in the expanse of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them be signs to indicate seasons and days and years,
and let them serve as lights in the expanse of the sky to give light on the earth." It was so. Gen.1:14-15

That light shined immediately on the earth, not a billion years later.
 
TonyChanYT said:
What is the speed of light today?
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186,000 mps. Without the knowledge of God, mankind is confined to measure tihe general speed of light that way.

God isn't handcuffed by creation. Creation plainly shows life only comes from life. This means life has somehow always existed.

Some people think life hasn't always existed, but began in a chemical soup mix.
They believe over billions of years, the chemicals waked out of the soup pot and became a truck driver from Cleveland.
 
journeyman said:
186,000 mps. Without the knowledge of God, mankind is confined to measure tihe general speed of light that way.

God isn't handcuffed by creation. Creation plainly shows life only comes from life. This means life has somehow always existed.

Some people think life hasn't always existed, but began in a chemical soup mix.
They believe over billions of years, the chemicals waked out of the soup pot and became a truck driver from Cleveland.
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I think I finally got your point :) Sure, if you want to go with that.

See also Adam, Eve, and Evolution and follow up there.
 
TonyChanYT said:
I think I finally got your point :) Sure, if you want to go with that.
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God is not a theory or idea. I'm not going with "that." I'm going with him. The scientific community has imagined that God can't undo any part of what he made anytime he desires to do so. They can go with "that."

Christ shattered the laws of physics many times.
TonyChanYT said:
See also Adam, Eve, and Evolution and follow up there.
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I'm not interested in how God made Adam in the image of something that became his image. Adam wasn't incomplete to begin with. Mankind didn't progress after he was created. He regressed.
 
TonyChanYT said:
What specifically do you think I refer to by the word "that"?
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My belief, which many think is no more provable than a scientific theory.

I don't let science tell me what size box my God lives in, because it is an undeniable fact that the Messiah prophesied in the Hebrews scriptures defeated mankinds' enemy.

Have you noticed the world is searching for answeres to many issues which concern mankind? Starvation, racial divide, etc.

Our Lord told us the solution for every problem, but also said people would be divided because of him until judgement day.

Btw, on judgement day, the substance (which physics says cannot be taken from existence) will be taken from existence.
 
journeyman said:
My belief, which many think is no more provable than a scientific theory.

I don't let science tell me what size box my God lives in, because it is an undeniable fact that the Messiah prophesied in the Hebrews scriptures defeated mankinds' enemy.

Have you noticed the world is searching for answeres to many issues which concern mankind? Starvation, racial divide, etc.

Our Lord told us the solution for every problem, but also said people would be divided because of him until judgement day.

Btw, on judgement day, the substance (which physics says cannot be taken from existence) will be taken from existence.
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What specifically do you think I refer to by the word "that"? Please quote my words in your reply.
 
TonyChanYT said:
Define time.
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God before creation was in eternal mode. Then he starts creation with a dark period and then a light period one day. There is no clock keeping time ( just a dark period then a light period).

Goes on to day two and three.

Day four God builds the clock. The part that is our 24 hour day seasons and such is our solar system. This is no simple timepiece.

The farther out you go the centuries get told.

Now that is a redneck description of time. If it has to be refined, have at it.

The story of Jesus is written in the heavens.

Did that work?

Then at the end of time the clock is destroyed.


Mississippi redneck
eddiff
 
eddif said:
God before creation was in eternal mode. Then he starts creation with a dark period and then a light period one day. There is no clock keeping time ( just a dark period then a light period).

Goes on to day two and three.

Day four God builds the clock. The part that is our 24 hour day seasons and such is our solar system. This is no simple timepiece.

The farther out you go the centuries get told.

Now that is a redneck description of time. If it has to be refined, have at it.

The story of Jesus is written in the heavens.

Did that work?

Then at the end of time the clock is destroyed.


Mississippi redneck
eddiff
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How does this definition relate to Einstein's concept of space-time?
 
TonyChanYT said:
What specifically do you think I refer to by the word "that"? Please quote my words in your reply.
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I basically said, God may bend, break or do away with the "laws of physics" anytime he wants to. You responded,

"Sure, if you want to go with that." In post 28.

Physics can't explain where the substance which makes up this universe came from. They can't explain it, but they know matter cannot be created or destroyed, so they must begin with the supposition that matter has always existed in a solid, liquid, or gaseous state.

That'snot true.
 
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