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Is this blasphemous?

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Shred1000

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If you can't bring back your ex-girlfriend or a friend to church.

Is that blasphemous to The Holy Spirit?
 
you seem to have one scrupulous conscience...

and its their choice, ultimately. how can you be held accountable for their will?

of course, if your just neglectful, its not 'blasphemous' but it is spiteful or lazy or something else unsavory.
 
No Shred, it is not blasphemous.

I think you need a little bible study, maybe they have a study at your Church for you to join. Then maybe you should talk to your Pastor.

I have heard blasphemy before. Once was Madeline Murray O'Hare, who was a well known atheist. I heard her say something blasphemous against Jesus. (it was quoted on the radio)
I have never heard anyone blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.
I don't believe for one moment that someone could blasphemy without knowing good and well they are doing it.

I don't think that you could blasphemy at all. You love God, you love Jesus, I can tell by your posts you do. I don't think anyone who loves God could blasphemy Him.
Please read your bible, and pray! God loves you and forgives your sins.
 
Yes, it is a horrible sin. You are a bad, bad person.

You are also to blame for hurricane Katrina, the lack of peace in the Middle East, the deficit, and that time last week when Taco Bell forgot to give me my chalupa. You need to immediately pray forgiveness for all these things, but you're probably still going to be sentenced to burn for all eternity in the dankest pits of Hell. Is that what you want to hear? It sure seems like it.

Look, you have a serious self-esteem issue here, bordering on psychological disorder. If you genuinely spend this much time worrying that you're going to fry in hell for all these allegedly awful things you're doing, you need to consult a therapist. This is not just some rude internet joke, you need to consult a therapist. Your preoccupation with this issue is extremely unhealthy, and spiritual guidance is not what you need right now. There is some deeper problem here that you need to address.
 
ArtGuy said:
Yes, it is a horrible sin. You are a bad, bad person.

You are also to blame for hurricane Katrina, the lack of peace in the Middle East, the deficit, and that time last week when Taco Bell forgot to give me my chalupa. You need to immediately pray forgiveness for all these things, but you're probably still going to be sentenced to burn for all eternity in the dankest pits of Hell. Is that what you want to hear? It sure seems like it.

Look, you have a serious self-esteem issue here, bordering on psychological disorder. If you genuinely spend this much time worrying that you're going to fry in hell for all these allegedly awful things you're doing, you need to consult a therapist. This is not just some rude internet joke, you need to consult a therapist. Your preoccupation with this issue is extremely unhealthy, and spiritual guidance is not what you need right now. There is some deeper problem here that you need to address.
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That wasn't funny.
 
Gendou Ikari said:
Shred1000 visit this site. God willing, it will change your life. I know it has changed mine.

http://bible-truths.com
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Yes, go where the wind blows and where your ears are tickled. The reality called hell will still be there unfortunately and you will be decieved in to ignoring the means of avoiding it. What better way for satan to decieve you than to have you not believe in him or the lack of fire that he occupies for all eternity. Very sad. I thought posts about UR were banned from this site.
 
shred, while Art Guy's post wasnt really that funny (okay, so I chuckled at the satire), he does indeed have a point. I used to have a very scrupulous conscience, alot like you do. And while this may sound positive, cause you really want to avoid sin, it is problematic because it turns into an eventual denying of grace and the work of the Spirit within. Do as the Saints did. Take one sin at a time and work on it. Try to keep the others from getting worse, but work on one thing at a time. And when you fall, get up, kick the dust off your feet and get on with your life. God can forgive anything and his grace is only dependent on you in so much as you are willing to accept it. St. Iraneaus once wrote a fantastic praise to God. He thanked God for making him imperfect so that he would never be above God, but solely reliant on Him. Another Saint, whose name I cant remember, wrote that she was glad of being made a weak simply so that God's grace could cover her. She was happy she wasnt alone, but could totally rely on God's mercy and grace. This is what you need to do, and an over scrupulous conscience, like you show signs of having, get in the way of it. Seek counsel for it (i would say the local Catholic priest, even if you arent Catholic and loath us. A priest hears confessions a lot. He knows how people sin, what they do, and are very in touch with that aspect. Even if you arent Catholic, i feel that one of these men would be able to help you in ways a protestant minister couldnt, simply because of the intimate knowledge and experience that they have.). So yeah, seek counsel. The internet can only help you so much.
 
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That wasn't funny.
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I wasn't joking. Well, I don't really blame you for my lost chalupa, but the thrust of my post was serious. If you're not comfortable seeing a therapist, then at least visit a pastor who you trust to tell you something more than, "Hey, you need to pray more." You need to confront whatever your issue is, rather than just popping on an internet forum every day or two to beg forgiveness for your latest imagined transgression. There's really not much we can do for you.
 
Shred1000 said:
ArtGuy said:
Yes, it is a horrible sin. You are a bad, bad person.

You are also to blame for hurricane Katrina, the lack of peace in the Middle East, the deficit, and that time last week when Taco Bell forgot to give me my chalupa. You need to immediately pray forgiveness for all these things, but you're probably still going to be sentenced to burn for all eternity in the dankest pits of Hell. Is that what you want to hear? It sure seems like it.

Look, you have a serious self-esteem issue here, bordering on psychological disorder. If you genuinely spend this much time worrying that you're going to fry in hell for all these allegedly awful things you're doing, you need to consult a therapist. This is not just some rude internet joke, you need to consult a therapist. Your preoccupation with this issue is extremely unhealthy, and spiritual guidance is not what you need right now. There is some deeper problem here that you need to address.
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That wasn't funny.
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You are correct... that wasn't funny. This is not the way one should respond when another is asking a legit question or has legit concerns. Please refrain from spewing comments like that to other members here.

Thank you.


As for Gendou's post and link, I can not know his true intentions; I'm not a mindreader. Though there is more than just UR info on Smith's site, I'd like to remind everyone, especially newcomers, that discussions on Unversalism are not allowed at this time and in the forseeable future.

Thanks again.
 
As for Gendou's post and link, I can not know his true intentions; I'm not a mindreader. Though there is more than just UR info on Smith's site, I'd like to remind everyone, especially newcomers, that discussions on Unversalism are not allowed at this time and in the forseeable future.
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So I can't even put a link to a UR site?
 
vic said:
You are correct... that wasn't funny. This is not the way one should respond when another is asking a legit question or has legit concerns. Please refrain from spewing comments like that to other members here.
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I apologize for the levity. I don't apologize for the substantive content of the post. I think then when someone comes in here and repeatedly displays all the signs of a serious and unhealthy guilt complex, the proper thing to do is to inform him that he should seek the advice of a therapist.

If it was one instance of a person freaking out over an imagined transgression, it wouldn't be a big deal. But this is at least the fourth such case by Shred, and gentler suggestions that he needs to stop worrying so much, and encouragement to explain why he might feel so perpetually guilty, have been unsuccessful. This is what prompted the snippiness, and I apologize inasmuch as the resultant kerfuffle provided a smokescreen for Shred to once again avoid the main issue.

Chastizing me for pointing out the obvious in a less-than-sensitive manner is all well and good, but as long as I'm the only one willing to acknowledge that Shred isn't going to get the help he needs by posting to a bloody internet forum, he's going to continue in the same self-destructive direction. Telling him, "Oh, just pray for guidance," which is about the extent of the advice I've seen here, is going to yield roughly the same results as someone praying that his appendicitis goes away.

I'll repeat my recommendation: Shred, speak to an expert. Be it a school counselor, a professional psychologist, or whatever. Talk to someone about why you feel so persistently guilty about things for which you are not at all culpable.
 
I apologize for the levity.
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Apology accepted. I am only imterested in proper conduct at this point. Your point about proper counseling is noted. I must say though, as a Christian, I would suggest the counseling of a Pastor, priest, etc. We as Christians believe prayer and a healthy spiritual attitude is paramount to what the secular world can offer.


Gendou, unfortunately, no. You are welcome to PM members though as long as the PMs don't become harassing. Even then, we cannot do anything unless the offended party logs a formal complaint.

As far as I'm concerned, it was the manner in which the UR debates were cunducted that caused that topic to be banned. It was attitude and hostility that caused the ban. All parties were guilty; some more than others.
 
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