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Israel Becoming a Nation - Prophecy?

Hello All,

I just wondered, where in scripture does it talk specifically about Israel becoming a nation (which it did in 1948). I hear people say that this was a fulfillment to prophecy, yet I haven't seen strong evidence of it.

Thanks!
 
Jeremiah 24 especially.

Jer 24:6
6 For I will set Mine eyes upon them for good, and I will bring them again to this land: and I will build them, and not pull them down; and I will plant them, and not pluck them up.
(KJV)

That prophecy is specifically about Judah (not the ten tribes of Israel). Prior to 1948, the majority of Judah was still scattered outside the Holy Land. There's always been a small remnant of Judah in Jerusalem, but not to the degree when many of them began going back to the holy land in the decades prior to 1948 and then major exoduses after WWII. If they are plucked again from the holy land, then this Jeremiah 24:6 verse would still be unfulfilled.
 
Source: various

Number 6 is my personal favorite

These 10 Bible prophecies were fulfilled in 1948 when Israel became an independent, united nation for the second time in history, and for the first time in 2,900 years.

1. Jacob's descendants would regain control of Israel
Bible passage: Amos 9:14-15
Written: about 750 BC
Fulfilled: Since 1948

In Amos 9:14-15, the prophet said that there would come a time when the exiles of Israel would again have Israel as their own land and that they would never be uprooted again. Amos lived about 2700 years ago, during a time when the people of Israel were being forced out of their homeland by a succession of foreign invasions. Despite many centuries of exile, many Jews returned to Israel and reclaimed sovereignty over a portion of their ancient homeland. This declaration of independence, in 1948, triggered a war with the surrounding countries, which objected to the presence of a Jewish state. On May 15, 1948, the day that armies from the surrounding countries invaded, Azzam Pasha, the Secretary General of the Arab League, said "This will be a war of extermination and a momentous massacre which will be spoken of like the Mongolian massacres and the Crusades." Similar quotes were uttered by others during the war of 1948-49 and during the two major wars that followed. Despite its tiny size, Israel prevailed in these wars, preventing its people from being uprooted again, as they had been in ancient times.

Amos 9:14-15
I will bring back my exiled people Israel; they will rebuild the ruined cities and live in them. They will plant vineyards and drink their wine; they will make gardens and eat their fruit. I will plant Israel in their own land, never again to be uprooted from the land I have given them," says the Lord your God.

2. Israel would be brought back to life
Bible passage: Ezekiel 37:10-14
Written: between 593-571 BC
Fulfilled: 1948

In Ezekiel 37:10-14, the prophet receives a vision in which Israel was seen as a scattering of dried-up bones. In this vision, God tells Ezekiel that the bones (Israel) would be brought back to life. Just as Ezekiel had prophesized about 2600 years ago, the Jews were brought back to the land, and the country of Israel was brought back to life. Israel re-established sovereignty in 1948, a mere three years after the end of the Holocaust, during which the Nazis killed about one-third of the world's Jewish population.

Ezekiel 37:10-14
So I prophesied as he commanded me, and breath entered them; they came to life and stood up on their feet--a vast army. Then he said to me: "Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel. They say, `Our bones are dried up and our hope is gone; we are cut off.' Therefore prophesy and say to them: `This is what the Sovereign Lord says: O my people, I am going to open your graves and bring you up from them; I will bring you back to the land of Israel. Then you, my people, will know that I am the Lord, when I open your graves and bring you up from them. I will put my Spirit in you and you will live, and I will settle you in your own land. Then you will know that I the Lord have spoken, and I have done it, declares the Lord.'"

3. Isaiah spoke of a Israel being reborn in one day
Bible passage: Isaiah 66:7-8
Written: perhaps between 701-681 BC
Fulfilled: 1948

In Isaiah 66:7-8, the prophet foreshadowed the re-birth of Israel in 1948. Isaiah describes a woman giving birth before going into labor, and he speaks of a country being born in one day. This accurately describes what happened on May 14, 1948 - when the Jews declared independence for Israel as a united and sovereign nation for the first time in 2900 years.

During that same day, the United States issued a statement recognizing Israel's sovereignty. And, only hours beforehand, a United Nations mandate expired, ending British control of the land. During a 24-hour span of time, foreign control of the land of Israel had formally ceased, and Israel had declared its independence, and its independence was acknowledged by other nations. Modern Israel was literally was born in a single day.

Isaiah said the birth would take place before there would be labor pains. And that too is precisely what happened. A movement called Zionism began in the 1800s to encourage Jews worldwide to move to Israel, which at that time was called Palestine. Within hours of the declaration of independence in 1948, Israel was attacked by the surrounding countries of Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Iraq and Saudi Arabia.

When reading Isaiah 66:7-8, keep in mind that Israel's status as a sovereign nation was established and reaffirmed during the course of a single day, and that it was born of a movement called Zionism, and that its declaration of independence was not the result of a war but rather the cause of one.

Isaiah 66:7-8
"Before she goes into labor, she gives birth; before the pains come upon her, she delivers a son. Who has ever heard of such a thing? Who has ever seen such things? Can a country be born in a day or a nation be brought forth in a moment? Yet no sooner is Zion in labor than she gives birth to her children."

4. Israel would be re-established as a united nation
Bible passage: Ezekiel 37:21-22
Written: between 593-571 BC
Fulfilled: 1948

In Ezekiel 37:21-22, the prophet said that God would one day bring the people of Israel back to Israel, as a united nation. This might have been a shock for Ezekiel. He lived about 2600 years ago. At that time, the people of Israel had already divided themselves into two separate kingdoms. And, both kingdoms had been conquered by foreign invaders, who forced many of the people, including Ezekiel, into exile. But, when Jews reclaimed sovereignty in 1948, they did so as a united people, creating one nation - Israel.

Ezekiel 37:21-22
and say to them, `This is what the Sovereign Lord says: I will take the Israelites out of the nations where they have gone. I will gather them from all around and bring them back into their own land. I will make them one nation in the land, on the mountains of Israel. There will be one king over all of them and they will never again be two nations or be divided into two kingdoms.

5. The second Israel would be more impressive than the first
Bible passage: Jeremiah 16:14-15
Written: sometime from 626 to about 586 BC
Fulfilled: 1948

In Jeremiah 16:14-15, the prophet said the second Israel would be more impressive than the first. In many regards, it is. The first time that Israel was established as a country was after Moses led the descendants of Jacob (typically referred to today as Jews) out of Egypt, where they had been enslaved for 400 years. They then conquered Canaan and established Israel about 3400 years ago. But the second time that Israel was established was after the Jews had been scattered far and wide for a few thousand years. This time the Jews had to return from as far away as the United States, China, Russia and South Africa.

Jeremiah 16:14-15
"However, the days are coming," declares the Lord, "when men will no longer say, `As surely as the Lord lives, who brought the Israelites up out of Egypt,' but they will say, `As surely as the Lord lives, who brought the Israelites up out of the land of the north and out of all the countries where he had banished them.' For I will restore them to the land I gave their forefathers.

6. Ezekiel predicted when Israel would be re-established
Bible passage: Ezekiel 4:3-6
Written: between 593-571 BC
Fulfilled: 1948

In Ezekiel 4:3-6, the prophet said the Jews, who had lost control of their homeland, would be punished for 430 years. This prophecy, according to Bible scholar Grant Jeffrey, pinpointed the 1948 rebirth of Israel. Here's a summary of Jeffrey's theory:

1. Ezekiel said the Jews were to be punished for 430 years because they had turned away from God. As part of the punishment, the Jews lost control of their homeland to Babylon. Many Jews were taken as captives to Babylon.

2. Babylon was later conquered by Cyrus in 539 BC. Cyrus allowed the Jews to leave Babylon and to return to their homeland. But, only a small number returned. The return had taken place sometime around 536 BC, about 70 years after Judah lost independence to Babylon.

3. Because most of the exiles chose to stay in pagan Babylon rather than return to the Holy Land, the remaining 360 years of their punishment was multiplied by 7. The reason is explained in Bible's book of Leviticus. (Leviticus 26:18, 26:21, 26:24 and 26:28). In Leviticus, it says that if the people did not repent while being punished, the punishment would be multiplied by 7. And, by staying in pagan Babylon, most exiles were refusing to repent.

4. So, if you take the remaining 360 years of punishment and multiply by 7, you get 2,520 years. But, Jeffrey says those years are based on an ancient 360-day lunar calendar. If those years are adjusted to the modern solar calendar, the result is 2,484 years.

5. And, there were exactly 2,484 years from 536 BC to 1948, which is the year that Israel regained independence.

Ezekiel 4:3-6
(In this Bible passage, Ezekiel is asked by God to symbolically act out the 430 years of punishment)
… Then take an iron pan, place it as an iron wall between you and the city and turn your face toward it. It will be under siege, and you shall besiege it. This will be a sign to the house of Israel. "Then lie on your left side and put the sin of the house of Israel upon yourself. You are to bear their sin for the number of days you lie on your side. I have assigned you the same number of days as the years of their sin. So for 390 days you will bear the sin of the house of Israel. "After you have finished this, lie down again, this time on your right side, and bear the sin of the house of Judah. I have assigned you 40 days, a day for each year.

7. The people of Israel would return to "their own land"
Bible passage: Ezekiel 34:13
Written: between 593-571 BC
Fulfilled: after May 14, 1948

In Ezekiel 34:13, the prophet said that God would gather the people of Israel scattered throughout the world and bring them back to "their own land." After many centuries of dispersion, hundreds of thousands of Jews returned to their ancient homeland beginning in the late 1800s. But, millions more returned after Israel declared independence in 1948. In other words, millions of exiles returned to their ancient homeland which was now truly "their own land" in the sense that it was now a sovereign Jewish state.

Ezekiel 34:13
I will bring them out from the nations and gather them from the countries, and I will bring them into their own land. I will pasture them on the mountains of Israel, in the ravines and in all the settlements in the land.

8. God would watch over the people of Israel
Bible passage: Jeremiah 31:10
Written: sometime from 626 to about 586 BC
Fulfilled: 1948, etc.

In Jeremiah 31:10, the prophet said that God would one day gather the Jews back to Israel and that He would watch over them like a shepherd. Believe what you wish, but there is evidence that God indeed has watched over the re-established nation of Israel. Hours after Israel declared independence in 1948, the surrounding countries attacked, hoping to replace the Jewish state with an Arab state. These countries are much larger than Israel. But tiny Israel prevailed in that war and was able to capture additional land, increasing the land size of Israel by 50 percent. Israel also prevailed in the two other major wars that followed.

Jeremiah 31:10
"Hear the word of the Lord, O nations; proclaim it in distant coastlands: `He who scattered Israel will gather them and will watch over his flock like a shepherd.'

9. Israel's army would be disproportionately powerful
Bible passage: Leviticus 26:3, 7-8
Written: perhaps around 1400 BC
Fulfilled: 1948-49, 1967, etc.

In Leviticus 26:3, 7-8, the Bible says that the army of Israel would have a supernatural power to prevail during times of conflict, if the people are obedient to the Lord. This Bible passage says that 5 people would be able to chase away 100 people, and that 100 would be able to chase away 10,000. Is there any proof to this incredible claim? Judge for yourself:

Example 1: Within hours of Israel's declaration of independence in 1948, Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Iraq, and Lebanon invaded Israel. The combined population of those countries was at least 20 million at that time. Israel had fewer than 1 million Jews. Even so, the Jews won the war and expanded the size of Israel by 50 percent.

Example 2: During the War of 1967, Israel attacked the air force bases of the surrounding countries and took control of Jerusalem for the first time in about 2000 years. They also seized additional territory. That war lasted a mere 6 days.

Example 3: On Oct. 6, 1973, Israel was attacked by Egypt and Syria. Other countries later joined the attack. But the Jews were able to push back the attacking armies and occupy land outside of Israel's borders.

Leviticus 26:3, 7-8
"If you follow my decrees and are careful to obey my commands, … You will pursue your enemies, and they will fall by the sword before you. Five of you will chase a hundred, and a hundred of you will chase ten thousand, and your enemies will fall by the sword before you."

10. The fortunes of the people of Israel would be restored
Bible passage: Deuteronomy 30:3-5
Written: perhaps 1400 BC
Fulfilled: 1948, etc.

In Deuteronomy 30:3-5, the Bible said the Jews would be scattered worldwide and that they later would return to their homeland and have their fortunes restored. This prophecy began to be fulfilled in modern times during the late 1800s when many Jews returned to Israel, from as far away as China and the United States, Russia and South Africa. Israel declared independence in 1948. Today, Israel is among the world's most prosperous countries. In 1999, for example, Israel's per capita Gross Domestic Product was twice as prosperous than the neighboring countries.

Deuteronomy 30:3-5
then the Lord your God will restore your fortunes and have compassion on you and gather you again from all the nations where he scattered you. Even if you have been banished to the most distant land under the heavens, from there the Lord your God will gather you and bring you back. He will bring you to the land that belonged to your fathers, and you will take possession of it. He will make you more prosperous and numerous than your fathers.
 
Some things you have to be careful about with interpreting the timing of some OT passages about Israel's restoration. Some of the prophecies are only meant for AFTER Christ's return when ALL the 12 tribes of Israel are restored to the lands God promised their fathers, like Ezekiel 47-48. The Ezek.37 two sticks prophecy has not happened yet, even though some like to interpret it like it has. The ten tribes of Israel, which far outnumbered the small remnant of the house of Judah that returned after the Babylon captivity, have yet to return. Both houses of Israel are still apart today, and won't be joined together until Christ's literal coming.
 
Sounds like some here believe Jesus wasnt sent to gather the lost sheep of the house of Israel as he claimed.People here believe the United Nations gathered the lost sheep of the house of Israel into thier own land.My bet is the people on this board just dont understand.
 
Shilohsfoal said:
Sounds like some here believe Jesus wasnt sent to gather the lost sheep of the house of Israel as he claimed.People here believe the United Nations gathered the lost sheep of the house of Israel into thier own land.My bet is the people on this board just dont understand.


It is written in the Book of Proverbs:

The king's heart is in the hand of the LORD, as the rivers of water: he guides it wherever he pleases.


And again:

Then the LORD said to Moses, "Go to Pharaoh, for I have hardened his heart and the hearts of his officials so that I may perform these miraculous signs of mine among them that you may tell your children and grandchildren how I dealt harshly with the Egyptians and how I performed my signs among them, and that you may know that I am the LORD."


Consider this example:
And this whole land shall be a desolation, and an astonishment; and these nations shall serve the king of Babylon seventy years. -Jeremiah 25:11

For thus saith YHVH, That after seventy years be accomplished at Babylon I will visit you, and perform my good word toward you, in causing you to return to this place. -Jeremiah 29:10

Then....

I have raised him (Cyrus, King of Persia) up in righteousness, and I will direct all his ways: he shall build my city, and he shall let go my captives, not for price nor reward, said the LORD of hosts. -Isaiah 45:13
Ezra Chapter 1

1Now in the first year of Cyrus king of Persia, that the word of the LORD by the mouth of Jeremiah might be fulfilled, the LORD stirred up the spirit of Cyrus king of Persia, that he made a proclamation throughout all his kingdom, and put it also in writing, saying,

2Thus saith Cyrus king of Persia, The LORD God of heaven hath given me all the kingdoms of the earth; and he hath charged me to build him an house at Jerusalem, which is in Judah.

3Who is there among you of all his people? his God be with him, and let him go up to Jerusalem, which is in Judah, and build the house of the LORD God of Israel, (he is the God,) which is in Jerusalem.

4And whosoever remaineth in any place where he sojourneth, let the men of his place help him with silver, and with gold, and with goods, and with beasts, beside the freewill offering for the house of God that is in Jerusalem.

5Then rose up the chief of the fathers of Judah and Benjamin, and the priests, and the Levites, with all them whose spirit God had raised, to go up to build the house of the LORD which is in Jerusalem.

6And all they that were about them strengthened their hands with vessels of silver, with gold, with goods, and with beasts, and with precious things, beside all that was willingly offered.

7Also Cyrus the king brought forth the vessels of the house of the LORD, which Nebuchadnezzar had brought forth out of Jerusalem, and had put them in the house of his gods;

8Even those did Cyrus king of Persia bring forth by the hand of Mithredath the treasurer, and numbered them unto Sheshbazzar, the prince of Judah.

9And this is the number of them: thirty chargers of gold, a thousand chargers of silver, nine and twenty knives,

10Thirty basons of gold, silver basons of a second sort four hundred and ten, and other vessels a thousand.

11All the vessels of gold and of silver were five thousand and four hundred. All these did Sheshbazzar bring up with them of the captivity that were brought up from Babylon unto Jerusalem.


SO, when Ezekiel in conjunction with Leviticus' Law of Sevens in regards to not repenting in the midsts of judgment predicts exactly when Israel will return as a nation (a united nation itself since Judah and Israel are reunited as one), is it such a big deal that God manipulated the hearts of men as he manipulates the rivers in order to fulfill his purpose?

This sounds an awful like what the united nations did. In both cases a Prophet predicted how long the captivity/diaspora would last. In both cases the timing was perfect. In both cases God worked through pagan kings/nations.

If Babylon and Persia were instruments of God's punishment and liberation, how different are the united nations? I'm not saying that the united nations did this of themselves--Their footsteps were ordained by the LORD in accordance with HIS will.

Just because the united nations were involved doesnt mean it wasnt God controlling it.
No one is saying God or Israel owes the UN. The UN is just the instrument played by the hand of God.
 
To answer the question,the answer is yes.The beast that once was would be once more.

Rev 17;9-Jerusalem
And here is the mind which hath wisdom.The seven heads are seven mountains,on which the woman sitteth.


Rev 10-11
And there are seven kings;five are fallen,and one is,and the other is not yet come;and when he cometh,he must continue a short space.
And the beast that was,and is not,even he is the eighth,and is of the seven,and goeth into perdition.


The seven kings that have reigned over Israel
Five that were fallen.
Egypt,Assyrian,Babylon,Persia,and Macedonia.
One that was at the time John wrote this-Rome.

Then came the Dispora
The one who would come and continue a short space,who the people of Israel were gatherd under-
Great britian.
The eighth is that kingdom that once was,then was not when John wrote this,but now is again today.
The kingdom that calls itself by the name of Israel.

The nation called Israel is the little horn of the beast that would rise in the pleasant land.
Daniel 8;9
And out of one of them came forth a little horn,which waxed exceedingly great,toward the south,and toward the east,and toward the plesant land.

This little horn which calls itselfd Israel subdued three of the other horns (Jordan,Egypt ans Syria )in the 1967 six day war.,
Daniel 7;24
And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise;and another shall rise after them;and he shall be diverse from the first,and he shall subdue three kings.

It is written that this little horn will make war with the saints and shall kill them.
Looks like the descedents of those who has the blood of Jesus on thier hands will have the blood of the saints on thier hands.

Mathew 27;25
Then answerd all the people,and said,His blood be on us,and on our children.
 
Ezra 1:5-6
5 Then rose up the chief of the fathers of Judah and Benjamin, and the priests, and the Levites, with all them whose spirit God had raised, to go up to build the house of the LORD which is in Jerusalem.
(KJV)

That's just it, where are ANY OF THE TEN TRIBES OF ISRAEL mentioned returning with those?

Not only that, but WHO was it that was taken captive to Babylon for 70 years? Not the ten tribes of Israel, for they weren't even in the holy land when king Nebuchadnezzar took the tribes of Judah, Benjamin, Levites and the priests captive to Babylon. It's ONLY those who began to call theirselves Jews, that name coming from the name Judah.

Likewise with the nation state of Israel in 1948, that's still about Jews, not the ten tribes. The modern state of Israel even make a distinction between classes of returning Jews, those who claim genealogy of Judah, Benjamin, or Levi, and those who became... Jews by religion only. That is not the fulfilled prophecy of God joining both houses of Israel back together in their old inheritances. They don't even control all the original inheritances of land, not even all of Jerusalem.
 
Shilohsfoal said:
To answer the question,the answer is yes.The beast that once was would be once more.

Rev 17;9-Jerusalem
And here is the mind which hath wisdom.The seven heads are seven mountains,on which the woman sitteth.


Rev 10-11
And there are seven kings;five are fallen,and one is,and the other is not yet come;and when he cometh,he must continue a short space.
And the beast that was,and is not,even he is the eighth,and is of the seven,and goeth into perdition.


The seven kings that have reigned over Israel
Five that were fallen.
Egypt,Assyrian,Babylon,Persia,and Macedonia.
One that was at the time John wrote this-Rome.

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Egypt, Assyria, etc.. are not "Kings." They are nations. A king is a male human being.
 
NJBeliever said:
Shilohsfoal said:
To answer the question,the answer is yes.The beast that once was would be once more.

Rev 17;9-Jerusalem
And here is the mind which hath wisdom.The seven heads are seven mountains,on which the woman sitteth.


Rev 10-11
And there are seven kings;five are fallen,and one is,and the other is not yet come;and when he cometh,he must continue a short space.
And the beast that was,and is not,even he is the eighth,and is of the seven,and goeth into perdition.


The seven kings that have reigned over Israel
Five that were fallen.
Egypt,Assyrian,Babylon,Persia,and Macedonia.
One that was at the time John wrote this-Rome.

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Egypt, Assyria, etc.. are not "Kings." They are nations. A king is a male human being.
All those were kingdoms with kings.
Babylon for instance had more than one king that reigned over Israel but they are counted as one king.So insted of naming every king by name under his kingdom,I simply named the kingdoms.

Same as those ten kings that have recieved no kingdom as yet.I named the countries insted of the names of the kings.Its very unlikely anyone would know who those kings are by name but you would recognise the countries by name.
 
The Jeremiah 24 prophecy is specifically about Judah being established in the promised land again, along with the basket of rotten figs among them. It's not about ALL Israel being established there again. The fact that today's state of Israel is not Christian should also clearly point that out, for the majority of Jews still refuse The Saviour Jesus Christ.

Some of Judah returning in 1948, along with other non-Israelite Jews (religious Jews only), is a marker for the end of days. It starts the countdown of the times and the seasons for the end of this world and the return of our Lord Jesus. That's the generation our Lord Jesus was talking about that would not pass until all the signs for the end He gave are fulfilled, per Matt.24 and Mark 13. That's why Jer.24 covers metaphors about two baskets of figs, the good basket of figs representing Judah. Itt's part of our Lord's parable of a fig tree.

A remnant of Judah being established there as a nation again is also part of God's Promise to His servant David, and to Jerusalem, that He would always leave one tribe there (1 Kings 11). That's not about Christ's Salvation being fulfilled there. It's about God's Promise.

It's that evil basket of figs among Judah in Jerusalem today that I believe will fulfill the "small people" prophecy in Daniel 11, of bringing the antichrist to power as king. Unbelieving Judah there is going to be deceived by that, along with deceived Christian brethren who fall away with them (i.e., foolish virgins).
 
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